How strictly observant are most muslims?

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I personally know few Pakistani well-educated women who have married kaafir men. Surprisingly all of the men happen to be either of French or Serbian/Irish/Canadian ancestry (none of them happens to be a black african american). All of these women have Islamic names, some are so-called liberal Muslims, other are ex-Muslims.

So this women that psygocells saw in bikini tanning on the beach might very well be okay with marrying an atheist, who knows.
 
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Tyrion said:
Actually, there are plenty of "Muslim" women who marry non Muslims. Trust me. It's a sad fact, but it's definitely true.
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Well that is good to hear. I'll let you guys know how she reacts to me being an atheist once I tell her next week. We had a couple dates so far and I haven't told her yet, trying to feel out her degree of fundamentalism etc. I'm getting the feeling she is indeed muslim in name only and that the only difficulty I may have should we get serious will be her father. Her mother is pretty liberal from what I can tell and wasn't muslim before she met him.
 
^^LOL you would say that...not surprised at all. The last thing we want is a non muslim getting their hands on our women...but then again, those women leave themselves wide open on display...
 
Light of Heaven said:
^^LOL you would say that...not surprised at all. The last thing we want is a non muslim getting their hands on our women...but then again, those women leave themselves wide open on display...
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My feelings actually ...

@psygo:if it was not for Islam, I'd ask our younger non-practicing Muslim youth to hound down your atheist women and then break their hearts. Islam forbids me from motivating youth from doing that. I'll see you in hereafter. Even though she doesnt sound practicing, I hope she "rejects" you outright once you tell her you are an atheist. Do keep us updated on that though!
 
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My feelings actually ...

@psygo:if it was not for Islam, I'd ask our younger non-practicing Muslim youth to hound down your atheist women and then break their hearts. Islam forbids me from motivating youth from doing that. I'll see you in hereafter. Even though she doesnt sound practicing, I hope she "rejects" you outright once you tell her you are an atheist. Do keep us updated on that though!
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Wow really? And here I was being all open and sharing. Was doing so because I thought the input of you people from the other side of the fence on this would be interesting. And it has been a good read.

I get where you are speaking from in the quote above though, you think I'm out to break her heart and corrupt her to evil ;D I can understand that. I'd probably feel the same if a fundamentalist was dating my sister or something. Perhaps best case scenario is what I suspect may the the truth, that she's not really a dedicated muslim at all and never was. Its just her father who may be a hurdle.

I'm still kind of shocked that somebody who wears bikinis would call themselves muslim. So not all muslims are strict about it. I wonder why I thought they were? Maybe that is the influence of media.

Anyway, thanks for your responses all.
 
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My feelings actually ...

@psygo:if it was not for Islam, I'd ask our younger non-practicing Muslim youth to hound down your atheist women and then break their hearts. Islam forbids me from motivating youth from doing that. I'll see you in hereafter. Even though she doesnt sound practicing, I hope she "rejects" you outright once you tell her you are an atheist. Do keep us updated on that though!
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Lol...deep feelings brother...=D
 
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So this women that psygocells saw in bikini tanning on the beach might very well be okay with marrying an atheist, who knows.
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It's possible.
But I assume that this girl who's pygoscelis has his eyes on is a malay (she's from singapore), and if her family is still in singapore then I would presume they would have to get married there, and unless her family is also very lax, he will have to take shahada be a muslim to get married there, even if it's just for a show.
 
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I'm still kind of shocked that somebody who wears bikinis would call themselves muslim. So not all muslims are strict about it. I wonder why I thought they were? Maybe that is the influence of media.
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When you come to Indonesia (especailly in Jakarta, big cities and touristy areas), you see women who say they are muslims wearing almost nothing not only on the beach, but in the clubs, in the magazines, in the television, in the malls.T
 
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I just wasn't aware that there were "ID card" muslims. It does make sense, just as there are "sunday" christians. She's the first I've met but perhaps that is simply because I don't meet many muslims. I don't live in Singapore (where she is from) or Indonesia as she does. When she told me she is muslim it surprised me very much to the point that I couldn't really find any words. Partly because I have feelings for her and was considering courting her and I have not yet told her I am an atheist. I'm a bit nervous to tell her now that I know she's a muslim, as I understand Islam forbids dating outside the faith.
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you should show to her your surprise and what you are thinking and see her reactions and let her answer :)
 
In Malaysia you are not able to wear bikini in public even though you are tourist but usually in most island they just let it go. but beware you can get caught by the council or the police.
 
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We shouldn't be encouraging this kind of thread, whether she is practising or not - she claims to be Muslim, and we should discourage what pygoscelis is saying.

If he does it, we can't stop him (and he is responsible for his own actions on Judgment Day). But we don't need these type of threads to survive on an Islamic forum.


So my request to mods would be to delete this thread.
 
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As well as many other threads that shouldnt be encouraged.

I hope you dont mean we're encouraging pygoscelis's nonsensical idea...>.<
 
:salamext: I'm not saying the Muslims are encouraging it. But if Pygo is doing something against Islam, then it is sufficient for us to discourage him and to end the discussion. We don't need to know what the outcome of it will be. And we don't need to know the sins of another Muslim woman.
 
Let's just address his points. The moderators/administrators decide whether a topic should be closed/deleted, not a member. Though you can PM mods/admins to advise them to close/delete a topic.
 
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:salamext: I'm not saying the Muslims are encouraging it. But if Pygo is doing something against Islam, then it is sufficient for us to discourage him and to end the discussion. We don't need to know what the outcome of it will be. And we don't need to know the sins of another Muslim woman.
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I agree with you. We dont want him to approach any Muslim woman, regardless of how much or how little they practice. Although, no one is asking for the outcome, at least thats not what I see here. Also..we dont even know who she is or her name, nor do we need to. I wanna bash his head in through text, so he understands this...

















BACK OFF!

I mean it wholeheartedly....BACK OFF!


 
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