sister ..this is a heavy statement,,imagine now what kind of view he will have of some muslims,,,he asked a simple quesiotn to start,,and ixant blmae anyone saying that,,,you an go to amny places across asia and arab countries and find muslim women like that,,so he was just questioning why
How strictly observant are most muslims?
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The poster has asked a valid question and is seeking answers but as usual the Haram police come out in force and just have to condemn everything.
Pygoscelis, Let it be known, Islam is perfect in every sense but in today's society its easy for a Muslim to veer off track. Majority of Muslims are 'Observant', I guess its just the minority who are not as observant as they should be.
Pygoscelis, Let it be known, Islam is perfect in every sense but in today's society its easy for a Muslim to veer off track. Majority of Muslims are 'Observant', I guess its just the minority who are not as observant as they should be.
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Astagfirullah.
Its quite unbelievable how a thread that posed such a simple question has reached to this point.
Brothers and sisters,
When will we realise that it is not for us to judge others - be they muslims/ non-muslims/ atheists/ agonists?
Are we so perfect, and above error - that we can look at another who calls herself MUSLIM - and then label her?
Is this our duty?
Or is it our duty to advise/guide and teach others who have deviated from the commands of Allah and His rasul (sallahu alaihi wasalam)?
Im assuming that everyone here, has come from a flawless, sinless background.
That all our muslimahs here donned their hijabs as soon as they came of age.
That there is nothing in our pasts that makes us look back with regret.
Yes?
Then how do we know - that this woman may not have some life expierence in the future, that completely changes her mind-set, her imaan and taqwa?
That she may, perhaps, insha Allah, become a more observing muslim than any of us?
How do we know that we wont be faced with some trial that makes us completely lose our precious imaan?
We dont.
If you are reading this with imaan in your hearts - this is purely due to Allah (subhana'watala) MERCY upon you.
Nothing else.
You have no claim to be on the path that you are currently on......for in a second, He can remove His mercy - and send you back to ignorance.
Remeber:
Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 166
It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) observed:
He who as in his heart the weight of a mustard seed of pride shall not enter Paradise.
And also, do realise, it is not our place to tell another to back off from our muslimahs.
This is the duty of her family.
At the end of the day - everyone makes their own choices in life, and are responsible for their own actions.....as in the case of this muslimah.
This thread is a very sad example of our ummah.... more-so from the responses here, than the actual story....
Salaam
Its quite unbelievable how a thread that posed such a simple question has reached to this point.
Brothers and sisters,
When will we realise that it is not for us to judge others - be they muslims/ non-muslims/ atheists/ agonists?
Are we so perfect, and above error - that we can look at another who calls herself MUSLIM - and then label her?
Is this our duty?
Or is it our duty to advise/guide and teach others who have deviated from the commands of Allah and His rasul (sallahu alaihi wasalam)?
Im assuming that everyone here, has come from a flawless, sinless background.
That all our muslimahs here donned their hijabs as soon as they came of age.
That there is nothing in our pasts that makes us look back with regret.
Yes?
Then how do we know - that this woman may not have some life expierence in the future, that completely changes her mind-set, her imaan and taqwa?
That she may, perhaps, insha Allah, become a more observing muslim than any of us?
How do we know that we wont be faced with some trial that makes us completely lose our precious imaan?
We dont.
If you are reading this with imaan in your hearts - this is purely due to Allah (subhana'watala) MERCY upon you.
Nothing else.
You have no claim to be on the path that you are currently on......for in a second, He can remove His mercy - and send you back to ignorance.
Remeber:
Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 166
It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) observed:
He who as in his heart the weight of a mustard seed of pride shall not enter Paradise.
And also, do realise, it is not our place to tell another to back off from our muslimahs.
This is the duty of her family.
At the end of the day - everyone makes their own choices in life, and are responsible for their own actions.....as in the case of this muslimah.
This thread is a very sad example of our ummah.... more-so from the responses here, than the actual story....
Salaam
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People who think Pygo doesn't know about Islam hasn't stayed on this forum long enough.
We have heard what he has said, and now that we've clarified for him that there are some people who are not fully practising Islam, and now that we have clarified for him that it is against the woman's own religion to date a guy outside of marriage - it should suffice. Why do we need to carry on the thread anymore after that? What is the purpose?
We have heard what he has said, and now that we've clarified for him that there are some people who are not fully practising Islam, and now that we have clarified for him that it is against the woman's own religion to date a guy outside of marriage - it should suffice. Why do we need to carry on the thread anymore after that? What is the purpose?
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I agree with the concerns mentioned above - the thread has taken a strange course and is not helping anyone. We firstly want the best for this sister and pray for her guidance. We do not want her to perform any action that will take her further away from Allaah (swt). If we wish to discourage certain behaviour here, we should choose our words carefully. Some posts are simply outbursts of anger - and similiar ones have occurred elsewhere - they are doing more harm than good, in terms of reinforcing negative impressions of Muslims and having the opposite effect of what may have been intended. Instead of discouragement, some may even have given hope that marriage between an atheist and a Muslim is possible. Let us please consider the consequences of what we say before giving advice and input Insha'Allaah.
May Allaah (swt) forgive us for our sins, Aameen.
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May Allaah (swt) forgive us for our sins, Aameen.
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