How well do you know the Anbiyaa (alayhim assalaam)?

Nope. According to the book Qisas al Anbiya (Ibn Kathir), the Jinn had viceregency over the earth before the humans did - so the history of earth is older than human beings.

Scimi
 
Hmmmm... very cryptic..^o)

Here's my round about attempt of an answer :phew

The reason for Earth was for the holy prophet (saw), like the whole Creation was on his account. . . With Adam being the first prophet and man, with Muhammad (saw) the last messenger. If I remember correctly reading words to the effect of Allah saying that if it was not for the prophet, HE would not have created the whole universe with us in it.

:peace:
 
yes o_0

surah ta ha?

specifically 20:123


although angels and jins were previous creations.

maybe even the earth was.

...but the history of the earth probably starts at that point. ah hem..

the history of mankind.

id love to know more if it does not..

quick google fu appears to show a wide varying of opinions but i have no idea of the sources of the sources.





Scimitar said:
Qisas al Anbiya (Ibn Kathir)
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Because the lives of biblical figures ("prophets," in the Muslim tradition) were covered only briefly in the Quran, scholars, poets, historians, and storytellers felt free to elaborate, clothing the bare bones with flesh and blood. Authors of these texts drew on many traditions available to medieval Islamic civilization such as those of Asia, Africa, China, Europe. Many of these scholars were also authors of commentaries on the Quran; unlike Quran commentaries, however, which follow the order and structure of the Quran itself, the Qisas told its stories of the prophets in chronological order – which makes them similar to the Jewish and Christian versions of the Bible.



thats the wiki... imma get my coat.. before i splode or something.
 
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Salam alaykum

I have no idea about the right answer but I like to read your answers.
 
The answer from my understanding is no. The first thing that was created was the Noor of our beloved Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
 
The answer is No of course,

Oh! Hi bro Scimi, how are you ? :)

We need to remember the verses in the Quran which they speak about the creation of the universe (including the Earth).
This is the history of earth too, before even the Jinns...
And Allahu A'alam.

The english word Earth came from Arabic ---> Ardh ;)
 
Definitely not. Earth was formed before man or Adam. We came from the Earth in a way, by the will of God, but the Earth had to be here in order for us to be on Earth.
 
the answer is no. earth was created from the big bang millions of years before humans started to wander. also the dinosaurs had to be extinct before Adam alayhis salaam was sent down to earth.

in addition to this could you also clarify if the purpose of the creation was to send Prophet Mohammed sallalahu alayhi wasallam as the final Prophet?
 
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My deciphering from the stories told.. (mostly read)..

First created was the 'mind' of Muhammad (pbuh). Then the Pen and then the tablet.

I believe from the stories told, (and inferences from science) that the Big Bang is most likely the coming to existence the 'Nur' of Muhammad (pbuh) or in the Christian beleifs, 'Let there be light'.

:peace:
 
Hello,

I agree with Abd Al-Maajd.

Earth was created by dust particles left over from formation of our sun billions of years ago. Since heavier elements like carbon, gold, and silver are only created during a dying star's last moments before a supernova explosion, this means that our bodies are composed entirely of stardust :)

--Dan Edge
 
I think jinn were created a long time before humans, about 2000 years before, if Im not mistaken.
 
As far as I'm aware, No. I remember reading about Jinns populated earth long before Adam AS.
 
Earth seems to be mentioned as a well known place to the angels.

29.*It is He Who hath created for you all things that are on earth; Moreover His design comprehended the heavens, for He gave order and perfection to the seven firmaments; and of all things He hath perfect knowledge.

30.*Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: "I will create a vicegerent on earth."
They said: "Wilt Thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood?- whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?"
He said: "I know what ye know not."

31.*And He taught Adam the nature of all things; then He placed them before the angels, and said: "Tell me the nature of these if ye are right."

32.*They said: "Glory to Thee, of knowledge We have none, save what Thou Hast taught us: In truth it is Thou Who art perfect in knowledge and wisdom."

33.*He said: "O Adam! Tell them their natures." When he had told them, Allah said: "Did I not tell you that I know the secrets of heaven and earth, and I know what ye reveal and what ye conceal?"
34.*And behold, We said to the angels: "Bow down to Adam" and they bowed down. Not so Iblis: he refused and was haughty: He was of those who reject Faith.

35.*We said: "O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as (where and when) ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression."

36.*Then did Satan make them slip from the (garden), and get them out of the state (of felicity) in which they had been. We said: "Get ye down, all (ye people), with enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling-place and your means of livelihood - for a time."

37.*Then learnt Adam from his Lord words of inspiration, and his Lord Turned towards him; for He is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.

38.*We said: "Get ye down all from here; and if, as is sure, there comes to you Guidance from me, whosoever follows My guidance, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
from Quran ch 2 Al Baqarah
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man came from earth, so earth would have been in existence?

59.*The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam;
He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.
Quran 3:59
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the signs we are shown in the evolution of the embryo from mucky fluid to a water being slimy thingy with a tail to a clot like thing to a thing with bones and autonomous organs feeding through a cord and then a creation with traits from it's parents and anceators also indicates that our genes are speedily written based upon detailed records of previous elaborate processes therefore adam may have been perfected as adam a long way down the assembly line.
just as musa was chosen as who he was to be chosen as later in life.

consider that you were also taken out of the back of adam before you appeared through a process on earth and that jesus' similitude of being made of dust like adam and the saying "be"- yet appearing through a gestation processs along with all the signs that we see and observe and learn in creation indicate that Allah has left us much to reflect on.

172.*When thy Lord drew forth from the Children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants, and made them testify concerning themselves, (saying): "Am I not your Lord (who cherishes and sustains you)?"- They said: "Yea! We do testify!" (This), lest ye should say on the Day of Judgment: "Of this we were never mindful":

173.*Or lest ye should say: "Our fathers before us may have taken false gods, but we are (their) descendants after them: wilt Thou then destroy us because of the deeds of men who were futile?"174.*Thus do We explain the signs in detail; and perchance they may turn (unto Us).

from Quran ch 7
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therefore the earth would be substantially older than adam. or at least adam when he appeared on earth in contrast with adam when he was a prototype in heaven.


quite a humbling though really.
28.*He knows what is before them, and what is behind them, and they offer no intercession except for those who are acceptable, and they stand in awe and reverence of His (Glory).
29.*If any of them should say, "I am a god besides Him", such a one We should reward with Hell: thus do We reward those who do wrong.
30.*Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder?
We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
31.*And We have set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with them, and We have made therein broad highways (between mountains) for them to pass through: that they may receive Guidance.
32.*And We have made the heavens as a canopy well guarded: yet do they turn away from the Signs which these things (point to)!
33.*It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.
34.*We granted not to any man before thee permanent life (here): if then thou shouldst die, would they live permanently?
35.*Every soul shall have a taste of death: and We test you by evil and by good by way of trial. to Us must ye return.
36.*When the Unbelievers see thee, they treat thee not except with ridicule. "Is this," (they say), "the one who talks of your gods?" and they blaspheme at the mention of ((Allah)) Most Gracious!
37.*Man is a creature of haste: soon (enough) will I show you My Signs; then ye will not ask Me to hasten them!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycmTLJ3gKcI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHBI7ggw53o
 
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Greetings and peace be with you DanEdge;

Earth was created by dust particles left over from formation of our sun billions of years ago. Since heavier elements like carbon, gold, and silver are only created during a dying star's last moments before a supernova explosion, this means that our bodies are composed entirely of stardust :)
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Either, at least 'One God' created the universe and life, or there is no God.

The creation of the universe is history, something had to have no beginning, or something did not come from anything. If and only if God exists, he must have a purpose, and there is the need to search for God and this purpose in life, there is the need to do something.

The only God that cannot exist, is the maybe or probable God, its fully yes or fully no, my thoughts and opinions cannot change history. However we might come to know and understand God, the same God hears all our prayers.

In the spirit of searching for God

Eric
 
greenhill said:
The reason for Earth was for the holy prophet (saw), like the whole Creation was on his account. . .
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greenhill said:
If I remember correctly reading words to the effect of Allah saying that if it was not for the prophet, HE would not have created the whole universe with us in it.
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Vision said:
The first thing that was created was the Noor of our beloved Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
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greenhill said:
First created was the 'mind' of Muhammad (pbuh).
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he Big Bang is most likely the coming to existence the 'Nur' of Muhammad (pbuh) or in the Christian beleifs, 'Let there be light'.
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:salam:

Only the angels were created from light. Our beloved prophet :saws: was a human being like us whom Allah preferred and chose above us with prophethood and revelation. He can only be said to be a guiding light, but not physically made of noor/light. Also reports about the Earth having being created only for the Prophet :saws: are very weak/fabricated. See the following links:

http://islamqa.info/en/75395
http://islamqa.info/en/4509
http://islamqa.info/en/23290
 
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Cool, cool cool cool.

I have to agree, its a pretty solid answer. We know that there was an earth, we know scientifically that it was present before humans were, along with how the Quran says there was already a planet when God was telling the angels about the creation of man, we can reasonably state that yes, the earth existed before us. Humans were created from clay that came from earth, thus the planet was used in our creation.

Abu Musa al-Ash’ari reported the Messenger of Allah (May peace be upon him) as saying:

Allah created Adam from a handful which he took from the whole of the earth; so the children of Adam are in accordance with the earth: some red, some white, some black, some a mixture, also smooth and rough, bad and good. (Sunan Abi Dawud 4693)

Thus, Earth was present when Adam (as) was not. Jinn also had to be present somewhere, because only Iblis was in a position where he could stand with the angels, who lived in heaven. Did they live on Earth? I think so, because when Iblis fell, he fell with Adam (as), and it can be assumed that he fell back where the Jinn were present already, back to where he came from, aka the earth.

I also can not see why people keep saying that the Prophet (pbuh) was the first in creation, I have never seen any proof of this. The only proof we have is of him as a man, and we don't have the knowledge to state what a soul even is, let alone that it's light or any other story.

And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about the soul. Say, "The soul is of the affair of my Lord. And mankind have not been given of knowledge except a little." [17:85]

Personally, I have read that the first things made were the Throne and the Pen. If anyone can back this up or something, it will be a good thing.
 
1. Does the history of the earth start with the coming of Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎) on this earth?

I think the question is not worded properly... by history, are you asking us abut human history on earth? or earthen history?

If it is human history then Nope... because we are not the first accountable creation to be placed here - the Jinn were here before us. And they too will be judged.

Scimi
 

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