I live in Israel

[LaIlahaIlaAllah]

אני מקווה ללמוד עברית בבוא מן הימים. זאת שפה פשוט יוצאת מן הכלל
אז מהיכן את בישראל, יקירתי?

from a little village in the north called Kfar Kama.

Welcome to the forum Sister,

There are a number of Circassians living here in the USA mostly in New Jersey. My family spoke of knowing Cherkes in Lithuania and my Grandfather told stories of what great horsemen they were. My Grandfather was a Calvary Officer, First in the Lithuanian Army and later in Russia under Czar Nicholas, most of the soldiers in his companies were Cherkes.

EDIT: I made an error I just remember he fought against Czar Nicholas and the Russians. Now, I can't remember what country besides Lithuania he was a Calvary Officer in.

yea i know some circassians who live in new jersey myself
that's so intresting! i want to hear more about his experience!!
yea he probably fought against Russia if he fought with us

 

[Whatsthepoint]

from a little village in the north called kfar kama.

ובכן, אמרי לי כעת, האין זה חביב לרכוש בית במקום כה נפלא כמו כפר קאנה?​

 

[convert]

We have muslim sisters who read/write in Hebrew imsad . If this isn't imitating the kuffar, I don't know what is.

What keeps your people there? How strong is the Islam in your masaajid? Do they not teach the importance of walaa and baraa?

 

[Woodrow]

We have muslim sisters who read/write in Hebrew imsad . If this isn't imitating the kuffar, I don't know what is.

What keeps your people there? How strong is the Islam in your masaajid? Do they not teach the importance of walaa and baraa?

Many Arabic speaking people can understand spoken Hebrew. Vocally both languages are very similar and share many common words. Nearly all Arabs in North Africa and the Mideast can read and write Hebrew as most Jews can also read and write Arabic. If you can speak Arabic, you can understand a large amount of Hebrew and Aramaic.

At one time Arabic, Aramaic and Hebrew were one language. Hebrew and Aramaic are basically dialects of Arabic.

Of course most Jews will say Arabic is a dialect of Hebrew and many Linguistic Scholars will say all three are dialects of Phonecian or Falasteen (Ancient Palastinian)

 

[doorster]

We have muslim sisters who read/write in Hebrew imsad . If this isn't imitating the kuffar, I don't know what is.

What keeps your people there? How strong is the Islam in your masaajid? Do they not teach the importance of walaa and baraa?

this post is more racist than Islamic, methinks! BTW you should stop speaking English forthwith lest you are accused of imitating kufaar for I suspect more kafirs speak English than they do hebrew.

oh and what could possibly have been the language of Hz. Musa Alahisalam?

 

[Woodrow]

that's so intresting! i want to hear more about his experience!!
yea he probably fought against Russia if he fought with us

My Grandfather passed away many years ago in 1955. I left home in 1958 and had little contact with my family for many years. I am now the oldest living person in my family and I remember very little of what my grandparents and parents told me about Lithuania

What I remember most about my Grandfather is what he taught me about horses. I was harnessing and plowing with horses by the time I was 5 years old and shoeing them by the time I was 14. Came in handy, my wife and myself raise horses.

 

[malayloveislam]

Salaam and Peace,

I would like to express my warm gesture to sisters from Israel, glad to hear that Muslim still survive in Israel. I pray Allah bless all of you and strengthen your faith toward Him. I love the post by sister Lailahaillallah, and also hope to learn Hebrew but now I will have to polish up my Quranic and Jami3a Arabic first so that it will make me easier to learn Hebrew. I hope sisters could spread the message of Peace (Islam) to the Jews, Insya-Allah. Those Sepharadim Jews are the Jews from Middle East while the Ashkhenazi are not. There are also Mitzroyim Jews from Egypt.

Originally Posted by convert View Post
We have muslim sisters who read/write in Hebrew . If this isn't imitating the kuffar, I don't know what is.

Don't be too prejudice on Jews, of course we are always being careful. Not all of them are bad. Abdullah Ben Salam during the time of prophet Muhammad (pbuh) living in Madinah al-Munawwara too is a Jew from Quraizha clan. He believe in prophet Muhammad (pbuh) prophethood after understand the verses in Torah that he learned and he himself is a Cohen (Jew Priest). Even he had tested his Jew people hypocrasy in front of prophet Muhammad (pbuh). The Jew from his clan draw tantrums on him when they know he embrace Islam and accepting prophet Muhammad (pbuh) prophethood.

It is not wrong learning Hebrew and writing in Hebrew brothers in Islam. Zaid Ben Thabet also was ordered by our holy prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to learn Hebrew and also writing in Hebrew from Jew war prisoners as the meaning to release those Jews. Both got the benefit, the Muslim and those Jew Prisoners. Muslim can spread Peace (Islam) and Jews were released without any flaw on their skin.

Hebrew is a dialect of Mesopotamian (Arabs). Jews are actually a kind of Bedouine Arabs. Bedouine people are brick head people. Stubborn, and lack of manner. That is why they don't listen to their prophets, and their prophets having hard time to teach them although with holy books.

 

[S_87]

To tell you the truth, I don't think we can have peace with Israel. But it's not true that we have to make all of it's citizen our enemies. You see, I meet a lot of Jews that are defending the name of Arabs. They are barely sounded. Some don't even dare to say it outloud.

Is it true that every Israeli joins the army at some point in their lives?

There's this Adyghe guy here which his job is to fix air-conditioners. He once was hired by a jew, and he accidently saw the "jew" which was hiding in some room doing Salat!
Yes, what you hear
After that , this Adyghe brother asked him if he's muslim. The Jew brother said he was, but was hiding it from the rest.

Alhumdulillah he was guided to Islam

Also, there is this jewish family which was very religious that converted to islam too.
And I want you to see this:
http://www.atzuma.co.il/petition/oshradu/1/
maybe there aren’t a lot of people who want this, but even one person is good enough for me.

The point is they have stolen land and are now 'willing' to share/give some back. Israel is illegal if these people really cared they would give back the land. In my opinion there can be no peace with zionists.

Now about having a war. we should definitely not sit and do nothing. First we should do our best to make peace and if it won't work, we should do our best to keep our rights. But only in the right way, if you want Allah to support you, you need to do it the right way.

Agreed.

Unfortunately I see too many wrong things in the way of Gaza's army.
Now I know the Israeli army, and i know that they do a lot but A LOT of wrong things. But it breaks my heart so much more to hear how the Muslim army is doing bad things as well... the Muslims represent my faith, my way.

Allahu A'lam oppression makes people desparate.

There's a rule in this war, not to fire at mosques and likewise not to fire at synagogues. Because of that rule, the Hamas are hiding their weapon in the mosque and they fire from there. The leaders hide inside hospitals and the warriors send their Katiushas while they are within the city, with the women and children. I judge them this harsh because they are muslims. I could judge the israeliens the same way and even worse, much worse, but I care more to correct my muslim brothers and sisters ways and not theirs. The Hamas is also treating it's citizen in a very bad way. So much that a muslim child helped an Israeli army go back safely. I have cried so much for the Gaza people, and I cried even more when I understood that their army who is supposed to be protecting them is only making it worse.

I cannot judge them for they are using these tactics with stones against an army with the most advanced weapons. From how i see, the Israelis target civilians intentionally, yes of course Hamas may hide in hospitals but one Hamas soldier in a hospital or house does not give Israeli bullies the right to blitz the entire area after the soldier has left and they are aware of it. What the zionists are doing is intentional ethnic cleansing, may Allah curse them.

 

[convert]

this post is more racist than Islamic, methinks! BTW you should stop speaking English forthwith lest you are accused of imitating kufaar for I suspect more kafirs speak English than they do hebrew.

oh and what could possibly have been the language of Hz. Musa Alahisalam?

not really. english is my first language, i am trying to learn arabic, and my lineage is ashkenazim. there is a huge difference here and if you cannot see it then perhaps you need to focus more carefully

last i checked, muslims are required to follow, and are under the dispensation of, Muhammad ibn Abdullah (saw) not Musa. and secondly it is offensive to compare the disgusting yahoodis of "israel" today with Musa aoudhubillah

let us not skirt around the issue: why are the circassian people buddy-buddy with the israelis? if we use the excuse "everyone is a potential muslim" then what of abu jahl? surely firawn was a potential muslim as well?

 

[doorster]

it is equally dumb to equate disgusting perverted "muslims" of Arabia with those Muslims of Muhammad ibn Abdullah's time (P.B.U.H.)

let us not skirt around the issue: why are the circassian people buddy-buddy with the israelis? if we use the excuse "everyone is a potential muslim" then what of abu jahl? surely firawn was a potential muslim as well?

Christian wife of an LI-Staff member became a Muslimah on her deathbed

last i checked, muslims are required to follow, and are under the dispensation of, Muhammad ibn Abdullah (saw) not Musa. and secondly it is offensive to compare the disgusting yahoodis of "israel" today with Musa aoudhubillah

changing one's name (or religious label) then proceeding to terrorise the creation does not make a Muslim, the only people who go wild on mention of Hz. Musa Alahisalam are some wahbi-cum-Qutbi retards, I had the displeasure and misfortune of knowing in my former country

"israel"

have you ever opened a Quran and looked inside? if you had there would be no need to put quote marks around the name Israel

 

[Thinker]

anyway, the reason that i opened this topic is because i'm concerned.
as a muslimah living in israel, i have arab friends as well as jewish friends.
when i just met my jewish friends they had so many questions and so many misconceptions about Islam. After a year of studying with them one of them told me that because of me she started to look at islam in a different way. that she trusted me the most because of my dedication to islam and even asked me to pray for her. this girl was a warrior in the army and was an extremist muslim hater. at first she would say she wants all the muslims dead infront of me and stuff like that while we all sat together, but i remained patient. slowly she started to be more open to me and she saw how beautiful islam is, because i kept telling her why i can't do this and this with her because islam forbids me to do it and ofcourse i was also telling her the reasons for the rule.
she's not the only one. about 4 of my other friends told me how much the respected me the most. and they keep calling me untill this very day asking for my wellbeing.

Is this not an example of what I have been promoting on this forum – integration encourages understanding and tolerance. Well done to Laila . . . I don’t know old you are but your wise words reveals some of your brothers and sisters on this forum to be wanting in that department.

 

[convert]

it is equally dumb to equate disgusting perverted "muslims" of Arabia with those Muslims of Muhammad ibn Abdullah's time (P.B.U.H.)
wife of an LI-Staff member became a Muslimah on her deathbed

changing one's name then proceeding to terrorise the creation does not make a Muslim, only people who go wild on mention of Hz. Musa Alehisalam are some wahbi-cum-Qutbi retards I had the displeasure and misfortune of knowing in my former country
have you ever opened a Quran and looked inside? if you had there would be no need to put quote marks around the name Israel

1. i'm not letting anyone off the hook anywhere, especially muslims who are not on the haqq

2. i call myself a muslim, not a "wahbi-cum-Qutbi". do you call yourself a modernist? never changed my name or style of dress either. also, i will remember that retard comment and will extract my ajr on yawm al qiyamah:thumbs_up

3. nah... Quran? whats that? maybe i oughta check it out! :rollseyes
3a. so i am to compare a secular athiest state who doesn't even follow jewish law to that of bani israel?

look you can be all lovey-dovey all you want, thats your prerogative. when muslims don't follow their deen and become chattle and disrespected then we all have a problem.

 

[Intisar]

We have muslim sisters who read/write in Hebrew imsad . If this isn't imitating the kuffar, I don't know what is.

What keeps your people there? How strong is the Islam in your masaajid? Do they not teach the importance of walaa and baraa?

How is speaking and writing in Hebrew imitating the kufaar? :?

By learning a language other cultures speak, can that not be a means of bringing people to Islam (da'wah)?

 

[convert]

How is speaking and writing in Hebrew imitating the kufaar? :?

By learning a language other cultures speak, can that not be a means of bringing people to Islam (da'wah)?

Perspective: a Cham (muslims from Vietnam and Cambodia) scholar told me that his people refuse to eat with chopsticks because that, to them, is imitating the kuffar (i.e. A PEOPLE THAT USURPED MUSLIM LAND AND KILLED THEM IN DROVES BECAUSE THEY ARE MUSLIMS) and they take that very seriously.

 

[convert]

It is sunnah to eat with the hands, anyway. I honestly do not see how you think speaking hebrew comes under imitating the disbelievers. That is stretching it. A lot.

You have to keep in mind that the Cham people were cut off from the muslim world for centuries and they are only just now getting proper dawah. But they still knew walaa and baraa.

Its house negro syndrome.

 

[Intisar]

Perspective: a Cham (muslims from Vietnam and Cambodia) scholar told me that his people refuse to eat with chopsticks because that, to them, is imitating the kuffar (i.e. A PEOPLE THAT USURPED MUSLIM LAND AND KILLED THEM IN DROVES BECAUSE THEY ARE MUSLIMS) and they take that very seriously.

I don't really think that answers my question, you've brought up a different example. And like Alpha dude said, it's sunnah to eat with your hands anyway.

What about those Israeli Jews that speak their native tongue, Hebrew, who are Muslim? Should they stop speaking their language all together because that is ''imitating the kufaar''?

 

[doorster]

Its house negro syndrome.

you ain't a likeness of Br. Malcolm so Stop pretence of piety and stop hurling accusations!

But they still knew walaa and baraa.

I hope none learns it from fazwan of saudia (i.e hate the non-Muslim and be his enemy) which is so wrong that a two page essay wont be enough to explain (not that anyone here is going to bother reading it)

 

[convert]

I don't really think that answers my question, you've brought up a different example. And like Alpha dude said, it's sunnah to eat with your hands anyway.

What about those Israeli Jews that speak their native tongue, Hebrew, who are Muslim? Should they stop speaking their language all together because that is ''imitating the kufaar''?

Is their language originally Hebrew though?

 

[convert]

you ain't no Br. Malcolm so Stop pretence of piety and stop hurling accusations!

Never said I was but when you examine the situation, its clear what the deal is. Speaking of accusations, you gonna take back that smart remark about "wahbi-cum Qutbi retard" or will I have to extract it from you yawm-al-qiyamah?

Its a shame he got booted from Youtube by that JIDF cabal but a Palestinian brother who went by the name Memfian had a series of videos explaining what exactly was happening wrt Circassian muslims in Israel.

 

[Woodrow]

We all should be ashamed of our selves, turning a person's introduction into a war over the issue of speaking Hebrew.