Imaams of the Haramain - Part IX

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Really random question, but has anyone noticed that Sheikh Ali Jaber (ra) used to put his hands at his side during salah? He did not have his hands folded the normal way. Is this a different madhab? I remember someone telling me that hanbalis or malakis do that, is that correct.
 
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Maybe the sheikh was ill then and it was hard for him to put his hand up.

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As-salamu alaikum

Sheikh Ali Jaber(Rahima Hullah) had his hands on his side,not because of madhab. His right hand had a problem. My uncle told me it was slightly paralized. He met him many times and shook his hand,thats why he knew. May Allah have mercy on him :).
 
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Shaykh 'Abd al-Muhsin al-Qaasim's Ishaa Salaahs have been amaazing mashaa'Allah! Specially yesterdays!
 
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(This is not related to the Imams, but I couldn't find any better thread for it.)
I have seen Shaikh 'Abdul 'Azeez Aal-AshShaikh, Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia doing Sa'i in the basement on 11th of Zil Hijjiah, after Isha. But one thing that I noticed is, he was going from Safa to Marwa and then returning back on the same side, i.e. on the Safa-to-Marwa side. He did not return from the other side. You know why?
He had a lot of excorts. They could have easily turned around a pillar to walk from the other side, but they didn't.
 
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(This is not related to the Imams, but I couldn't find any better thread for it.)
I have seen Shaikh 'Abdul 'Azeez Aal-AshShaikh, Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia doing Sa'i in the basement on 11th of Zil Hijjiah, after Isha. But one thing that I noticed is, he was going from Safa to Marwa and then returning back on the same side, i.e. on the Safa-to-Marwa side. He did not return from the other side. You know why?
He had a lot of excorts. They could have easily turned around a pillar to walk from the other side, but they didn't.

Jazak Allah for sharing brother

They did not do that because the Asl in saee from safa to marwa is to go from safa to marwa n then come back to safa from marwa regardless of the sides, It does not realy matter , His saee is as Saheeh n right as the person who is returning from the other side , in this case it is actualy better to come back from the same side because its less effort and easier on the sheikh as he is old , Because its about going to marwa from safa and comming back.

Now why are there seperate ways to go and come back? It was dont by the saudi governmnet may Allah reward them to regulate the traffic , i mean to contrpol the flow and make it easy , to have order or otherwise it would be a night mare to do saee, As you might know hat the saee between safa and marwa not too long ago was actually a market , a souq/ bazaar , so imagine how peopple would go to marwa and come back , and do u really think that they used the right side of the souq to go and left to come back??

Now do u think that mother of ismael alihi salam went from the right side and came back from the left side?? No ! she went from safa to marwa and back.

So it is absolutely right to do what they did , it is more than right as it was the best thing to do, And may Alah reward the saudi govermnet for alll the works they have done with safa n marwa , from making this masaa to expansions n floors n levels , It is literally impossible to do saee on the ground floor now a days. So those going from safa to marwa from the proper route and those comming back from marwa to safa from the proper route and those in the middle with wheel chairs are all right , No problem what so ever.

But yes when a person is doing saee between safa and marwa for instance on the ground floor and it crowded , then it is not permissbible to come back from the same place as he will be opposing the flow of the pilgrims and making it difficlut on everyone who is goingto marwa from safa

But when a person is doing saee on the 3rd floor( the new one) and he is literally the ONLY one up there , there is no traffic what so ever and no crowd , Should he go from safa to marwa from one side and come back from teh other??? I say if he does its fine , but if he dosent and comes back from the same side it is JUST AS FINE ! it is actually better and easier for him and shorter in a way also , so there is InshahAllah notthing wrong.

Except when there is crowd and u want to come the opposite way of peoples flow then its an issue , u are hurting the pilgrims and that is not permissible.

In the sheikhs case , as u mentioned they were doing it in basement , and i suppose it must not be crowded , so it was not only right it was actuallt better to do the saee from the same way , easier for the sheikh and his escorts.

So bottom line , the saee from safa and marwa is 7 rounds between safa and marwa , and if there is no traffic u could do it from any side, will not make any difference at all , even if u are doing it in the middle which is the designated area for wheel chairs , its absolutely fine InshahAllah coz u are going from safa to marwa.


But what happens when we mention such a thing to an ordinary person , That the grand mufti was commingback from the same side? Yep people make issue out of it out of ignorance and slander the sheikh and the whole saudi doctrine , and go as far as saying he is a fool to he is a jaahil , to even kafir n munafiq, just like its famous in india and pakistan that who ever prays 8 rakats taraweeh is deviated, it is not backed with any sort of knowledge or even intelect or evidence, its just the hatered that has been entered in the hearts of the people by slandering and making issues out of thing which were actually alright and saheeh.

So Allahul Mustaan

And Allah knows best

Assalam O alikum
 
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beautiful masha Allah!

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salaatul maghreb makkah led and beautifully recited by shaykh sudais, amazing aayaat masha Allah!

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Yes really nice Ayaat and recitation by sheikh sudais , Really a treat for the Hajis , I mean everyone knows sudais , he is the most famous n worldwide known imam of the haramain , im sure the hajis were delighted n Allah knows best.


By the way sheikh Mahir has been leading veeeery beautiful salahs, He is gotta be one of the most beautiful voices to recite the quran ever , its just too sweet.

He led beautiful surah al maarij twice, yesterday n like a wek ago in fajr as well , today Isha was very beautiful , please check it out , Read from Ad Dhaariyat n an Naziaat , Sheikh Hudaifi also read from the same Surah in first Rakat, could catch up with him coz i had to flick the chanel back to catch up with Sheikh Mahir.
 
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Has anyone got any news about sheikh budair he has not been leading any salah since he went to the peace conference.

InshAllah he will soon come bck to be leading the salahs especially fajr.


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Yes really hope sheikh Budair gets back soon , Sister Amaanah N sHURAIMFAN Jazakum Allah kahir for sharing , Yes that young shuraim is just beautiful , There are old videos of Shaikh hudaifi as well leading in Haram Al Makki . Shuraim is shuraim , May Allah protect him and reward him. Absolutely awsome
 
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Makkah and Madeenah Fajr were sooooooooooooooo beautiful today!!!!!!

Sheikh Ghamidi and Sheikh Budair. It was really nice hearing them after a long time and what sweet recitations, Masha Allah! Sheikh Ghamidi recited from Suras Saff and Balad and Sheikh Budair from Sura Naba. Masha Allah!!!! :thumbs_up

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Yes Nice Fajr Salahs today

Sheikh Ghamdi did go kinda fast in first rakat, May be coz he lead whole surah saff in first rakat, It was nice though just a little faster. I love him though his tajweed is extra ordinary n he can recite in soo many ways MashahAllah.

Great to see Sheikh Budair back.

Sis how did u know sheikh ghamdi was going to lead, SubhanAllah?
 
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AlhamudliAllah sheikh budair came bck he read beautifully mashAllah so did sheikh ghamdi.


Yesterdays isha in makkah by sheikh juhany was MashAllah superb surah al anaam :shade: May Allah reward all the imams of the haramain.


i wonder wat happened to sheikh shuraim he hardly leads any salah anymore. inshAllah he will soon come bck.


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I would like to draw brothers and sisters attention to what happen in this thread, about the question about Shaykh Ali Jabir raising his hand in salah.

This is excatly what happened to Imaam Maalik, he was not able to place his hands properly and let them hanging, then what happened? People saw this and lacked knowledge and started to say it is allowed to put your hands on the side and when asked for proof they would say we saw the Imaam of Madeenah Imaam Maalik doing this. And thus people mistakenly thought that this was the math-haab of Imaam Maalik but it is not.

I was amazed at how this example is almost identical subhanAllah
 
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How do they know?? i wonder where they heard the information from or did the guy just guess.


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I would like to draw brothers and sisters attention to what happen in this thread, about the question about Shaykh Ali Jabir raising his hand in salah.

This is excatly what happened to Imaam Maalik, he was not able to place his hands properly and let them hanging, then what happened? People saw this and lacked knowledge and started to say it is allowed to put your hands on the side and when asked for proof they would say we saw the Imaam of Madeenah Imaam Maalik doing this. And thus people mistakenly thought that this was the math-haab of Imaam Maalik but it is not.

I was amazed at how this example is almost identical subhanAllah

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The Malikis actually have evidence for this position about the hands on the side and Imam Suhaib [having been a student of the Maliki madhab] explains it here:

http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-stu...-pray-with-their-hands-to-the-sides-part-one/

I'm not saying whether putting the hand there is right or wrong, but what I am saying is that it is incorrect to pass it off on the Malikis as if they did not have an evidence for this opinion, which they, in reality, did and do which makes it a valid opinion to hold.

Moved here: http://www.islamicboard.com/prayer/134290992-maliki-position-hands-during-salah.html
 
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