I am sorry for seemingly associating all Muslims to those people, my point to the comment was that the Americans are not the terrorist you should be looking for, if it were not those commiting the atrocites against their fellow Muslim in Iraq the US wouldnt even still be there
Hello MTAFFI,
In my point of view, America does terrorize people and supports terrorism also, and in that case are terrorist by their own definition. You can agree or not, but then we would have to discuss each event, so lets not go further then that unless we hang out or something, lol.
No they will die before Americans would, should America sit idle while Iran whose government openly taunts and indirectly already threatens our security, creates a nuclear weapon. All they would have to do is stop what they are doing, let inspectors do their thing, have a little dialogue and they could have their nuclear power (peaceful)
In Iran's eyes, America is taunting Iran... not by words but by actions. Critisizing every move the President makes, having so-called experts talk about Iran every second, then, when the President of Iran wanted to come to the U.N to explain their position, U.S holds back on giving them visa's was like a way of saying "ha, you can't move unless i tell you to." Iran wanted negociations, but America said "no, unless you stop everything right now, we will not even consider talking to you." So, based on this, who is at fault for not dialoging? Also, before 1979 when the Shah was in power (U.S's little puppet), Iran was allowed to enrich uranium and create nuclear power, but now that America cannot benefit from the new government, they automatically say they are using it to create a nuclear weapon.
Now, what will Iran gain from Attacking America? America has nothing to give Iran, Iran has a lot that America can benefit from. Would Iran attack a country, knowing they will not gain anything (except for maybe a title of standing up to the west), and knowing that doing such a war would have loss of life in Iran inadvertly? Of course not, the only reason they are pushing, is cause U.S pushed first and are basically telling Iran to follow their rules... and Iran is not one to submit.
I think most of the people in these countries would either like america or at least like them more than Iran, as for the Saudis, did you ask them how they felt about Iranians? I can tell you that you may have recieved an even fouler response.
They didn't really care too much about Iran. But, they might have been really fired up at the time against america because of the Iraq thing, i went a year and a half ago or so.
That is how catholics feel about the pope but that didnt stop anyone from burning caricatures of him
The pope is like the religious leader, like i said, Khomenai in Iran is like the same status, or the Grand Ayatolla Sistani in Iraq has millions of followers, but will never be on the same level as a Prophet or God.
Agreed, except for the freedom of expression part, the loss of values is because of the loss of parenting in my opinion. I have a daughter and I can gaurantee you that she will have plenty of moral and religious values.
Yes, loss of parenting is also it. But when your Government see's this, like the 12 year old, and doesn't say anything and stays silent... well, i don't know. You get what i'm saying. I'm glad you are raising your daughter with such values, but it is hard for a lot of people to raise a daughter with good values in this society. Example, my next door neighbors, raised two girls very good. LIke took them to church and everything, and they are really good parents from what i saw. Right when one of the girls turned 18 she ran away from home, just like that, with this guy or something without even telling her parents, and the cops were looking for her and when they found her they couldn't do anything... I don't know the full story and don't want to jump to anything. But the other girl turned out to be really good and i'm very happy that she's friends with my sister and stuff, cause they are really good girls. Anyways, not to scare you or anything, from talking to you i'm sure you will be a great parent and dad.
Perhaps, I wouldnt say they are always respectful of others cultures and values though and to get respect you must give it (I am speaking of the government)
Not as much as they should be, but they are getting there. The Prophet used to live with Christians and Jews, and used to get along great because they all respected each others religion. Even the time that he was leader of the area, he made all the Muslims to respect their religion, and let them build their own churches and places for worshipping God. Iran is almost the same way, but like if a Iranian beats up on a Jew just because he is a Jew, the government doesn't punish the Iranian as much as it should, and this is wrong.
There was a lot of taunting from OBL prior to 9/11, and that was the mentality prior to 9/11 but because of the actions taken after their taunting, one must be cautious of what he/she accepts as mere talk or as a warning of what might come. I would rather ensure my security rather than wait on my security to be breached, especially when it comes to a country like Iran obtaining WMD's
I can see that, but Iran never said they will attack. I explained this above. Iran has nothing to gain from attacking, and is very much against the killing of innocent people. Also, they do not at all like OBL, and they too believe he is unjust and a terrorist, and believe that he will go to hell for his actions. By trying to bully Iran, you will get nowhere. Why not have the discussions without trying to push Iran to stop what it is currently doing and putting a stop to its advancement in their society? To Iran, it seems like America is trying to keep Iran down. Do you see what i mean?
I agree, that is why I like to think of this as a constructive discussion. War is bad and I hope it doesnt happen, but all iran has to do is let the inspectors, have some discussions and they could have their peaceful technology. However if they wish to continue on their path at some point someone will have to step in and say stop it or we will stop it. When it comes to my security, my families security and the security of my country, I have to agree with Bush, ALL options must be on the table
But you can't just stop a person on it's way up in advancement. Its like, two competing business... one is of course bigger than the other. The smaller business is making some big moves, similar to what the bigger company did as well, the bigger company see this and 'feels threatened' and tells the smaller company to stop it's business until they are satisfied and they have their talks and discussions. The smaller business, like anyone, would be like "who are you to tell me to stop???" That is not fair. The smaller business is willing to talk, but they do not want to freeze their business to do so.
Again, Iran has nothing to gain but everything to lose if they fight with america, it is in their own interest to keep to themselves and that is what they want, but America comes and is telling them to stop what they are doing and etc... and Iran says that they are willing to have talks but they are not going to stop developing their country. Do you agree or understand why Iran is mad at U.S for trying to stop them in obtaining nuclear energy for the development of their country?
Anyways, i will be out this weekend visiting friends in Arizona. I'll be back next week. It has been very educational dialoging with you, hope you are in the best of health and that God is happy with all your deeds.
Kidman
Kidman