Iran under the threat of war?

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MTAFFI said:
Avar
I have always regarded you on this site as a funny yet intelligent person who offers a different perspective, but after this little speech, I am not sure if you are just having a bad day, I am not sure what to think of you. I suppose I will start with you thinking that Korea could "boom the US to kingdom come". First off that is simply not true, Korea doesnt even have a missle that could reach the US, and even if they did do you think it would ever have reach US airspace? You would be stupid to think such a thing, they were and are on constant surveilance, the missle wouldnt have left the ground before exploding on their own soil. As far as fighting a bigger nation to flex muscle, I would have picked Russia or China to do that, but since we get along with them ok and Russia already lost to the US once I dont see that happening.



Do tell, what oil has the US recieved from Iraq? Has any been taken? Do we even get our oil from Iraq? NO NO and NO, that is pure ignorance flowing from your mouth.

Please provide a link for the "compensation" and please show how it is a bad thing, to compensate people whose family may have accidentally become a casualty.

If you want to show Iran support then go for it, I am not opposing that, what I do oppose is Iran obtaining WMD, and I think that the vast majority of the rest of the world agrees that WMD's should vanish and no more countries need to develop them. I am not saying that the US should have them either, but I dont see the US developing any new ones either, and why should we have to destroy what we put so much money into, what we invented and developed.

As far as being power hungry cretins and people who do not liberate, we will see just what the US's real role in Iraq is when 2008 rolls around and the democrats take control and remove the troops from Iraq. You will see who is truly power hungry when the groups in Iraq escalate the violence and kill each other in mass numbers without any presence to stop the different factions from direct confrontation. See who is really after the oil then

I would suggest you actually take time to think before your respond so that you dont come off a such a one sided, ignorant hatemonger
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Dude I too have respect for you. You seem cool unlike a few others O've spoken to on here....

We can argue all we like. But I don't hate the US. (as stated before) Yes I'm a democrat supporter and not a rebublican. (not that it matters as I'm a UK resident, but i follow world politics)

I do not agree with the invasion. Is that acceptable? my reasons have been stated numerous times and am getting tired just as you will be no doubt lol

Lets see how the Dems handle it. It's true I hate bush because he's stupid. He's unintellgient and wasnt'even voted in the first time round. But Lets not get into that. My reasons are the same as before. I just hope it's resolved bush was the worst thing to ever happen to the USA! A country which was once great but has been turned into the laughing stock of the entire world!

Gur Fateh:)
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
Dude I too have respect for you. You seem cool unlike a few others O've spoken to on here....

We can argue all we like. But I don't hate the US. (as stated before) Yes I'm a democrat supporter and not a rebublican. (not that it matters as I'm a UK resident, but i follow world politics)
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Well that makes a bit of a difference, the way your post came off to me was as if you had become a nation hater rather than a political hater. I can understand how people dont support one political group or another.. I am glad you clarified that :statisfie
AvarAllahNoor said:
I do not agree with the invasion. Is that acceptable? my reasons have been stated numerous times and am getting tired just as you will be no doubt lol
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Totally acceptable, everyone has their own reasons one side or the other, and yes it is very tiring LOL
AvarAllahNoor said:
Lets see how the Dems handle it. It's true I hate bush because he's stupid. He's unintellgient and wasnt'even voted in the first time round. But Lets not get into that. My reasons are the same as before. I just hope it's resolved bush was the worst thing to ever happen to the USA! A country which was once great but has been turned into the laughing stock of the entire world!

Gur Fateh[/B]:)
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I think the dems will probably take hold and change a lot of things, that is the wonderful thing about democracy, when things go bad there is always different mindsets that can come into power fairly shortly thereafter. As far as hating bush, well to that I say really who doesnt. I dont mind him, lol, but I can understand why people hate him, he is definitely not the finest thing to ever make its way into politics. Like we both said though the dems will change things, make no mistake about it, it is probably going to be a drastic change :)

PEACE
 
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Let's hope Iraq is an issue we no longer need to discuss in a negative way. Although he's still in until 2008??

*Bangs head on wall*
 
Link said:
It wasn't any type of missle, if you want to make yourself feel better about Iran's millitary and nuclear capabalities by denying what they have already accompished, then go ahead, whatever helps you sleep at night.
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The Iranians are all braniacs. They have superior missile and reentry vehicle technology. Everybody knows that. NASA is a poor stepchild to the Iranian space program. Quite possibly the moon landings were faked in a sound stage in Hollywood. I have already ordered plans for a backyard bomb shelter and am starting to stockpile canned goods for the nuclear winter. I am also taking a class in Farsi so I can sidle up to my new masters.


24 hrs without a post deleted...Wohoo!
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
Let's hope Iraq is an issue we no longer need to discuss in a negative way. Although he's still in until 2008??

*Bangs head on wall*
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Yes, yes. Completely agree with you, sir. Bush was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He stole the 2000 election. Cheney and Rove are the real powers behind the throne. Everyone knows that. Come on 2008...I can hardly wait either. Hillary Clinton will make peace with the Muslim world and be real nice and stop trying to invade places and things like that. When the US leaves Iraq, there will be a giant music festival where Shia and Sunni will dance barefoot on the spring grass in great exhaultation. And they will throw their now useless weapons into a great bonfire. Huzzah! Everyone knows that.
 
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Cognescenti said:
The Iranians are all braniacs. They have superior missile and reentry vehicle technology. Everybody knows that. NASA is a poor stepchild to the Iranian space program. Quite possibly the moon landings were faked in a sound stage in Hollywood. I have already ordered plans for a backyard bomb shelter and am starting to stockpile canned goods for the nuclear winter. I am also taking a class in Farsi so I can sidle up to my new masters.


24 hrs without a post deleted...Wohoo!
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LOL Can I come and stay with you, I am shaking in my little anti-radioactivity boots!!! :-[
 
Anyone who believes Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama are going to just take the troops out of Iraq is living in a fantasy world. They are taking advantage of the anti-war sentiment in their own party and the more liberal side of America to gain political points, but when you get in the White House you learn very quick that things aren't as simple as they are when you're running a campaign.
 
Cognescenti said:
Yes, yes. Completely agree with you, sir. Bush was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He stole the 2000 election. Cheney and Rove are the real powers behind the throne. Everyone knows that. Come on 2008...I can hardly wait either. Hillary Clinton will make peace with the Muslim world and be real nice and stop trying to invade places and things like that. When the US leaves Iraq, there will be a giant music festival where Shia and Sunni will dance barefoot on the spring grass in great exhaultation. And they will throw their now useless weapons into a great bonfire. Huzzah! Everyone knows that.
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You must be rubbing that crystall ball of yours too roughly.....
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
You must be rubbing that crystall ball of yours too roughly.....
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No...I made a vow to stop doing that for Lent...oh wait, Lent is over.

Of course, it goes without saying, I could be wrong. Perhaps I am being too optimistic, but , really, if there is to be world peace, it must start with a hope somewhere?

Someone must soften their hardened heart, so I am not afraid of criticism.
 
Keltoi said:
Anyone who believes Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama are going to just take the troops out of Iraq is living in a fantasy world. They are taking advantage of the anti-war sentiment in their own party and the more liberal side of America to gain political points, but when you get in the White House you learn very quick that things aren't as simple as they are when you're running a campaign.
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You dont think that they will pull the troops?
 
MTAFFI said:
You dont think that they will pull the troops?
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Immediately, no. I'm sure if a Dem wins they will talk alot about deadlines and timetables, but there won't be any overnight declaration of a pullout. Once you are president the party bickering and partisanship takes a backseat to successful foreign policy. I don't put much faith in the Dems when the U.S. military is involved, but no president wants to be the one to "lose" a war. If Hillary is president, or Obama, they will be faced with the reality of the situation.
 
Arrite, I've skipped through majority of the posts and frankly don't really care about other's opinion either. Here is my opinion on this topic. (And I don't really care if you agree with it or not.)

Someone on this thread mentioned muscles and it got me thinking.

If you take all the political systems and try to find something to compare them to, the best example would be a school playground.

You have a bully (America in this case) and then you have some kids (Some weeny countries) for the bully to push around.

If the bully has muscles and wants to show them off, all he has to do is go beat somebody up. However, if a kid wants to acquire some muscles, it isn't allowed? I think it is rather silly that you can't let him build muscles.

In most cases, the kid has aspirations of having a built body that he can show off to his fellow students. But usually the teachers preach that pride is not something that should be valued.

If you notice what happens in the playground, the bully usually tries to treminate the potential enemies by humiliating them. In this case, America is doing exactly the thing. As a result if the kid wants to build some muscles, he has to pick someelse to pusharound.

My comparisons are rather silly if you think about it, but they do make sense.

Anyway, before anyone takes a mickey out of me, I'm leaving this thread :X

Start the mockeries ;P
 
Keltoi said:
Nancy Pelosi make a mockery of herself with her little trip, even mucking up relations with Israel.
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Yes Heaven forbid Israel should get upset....She's got a brain and has used it. The dems will bring back the US to it's original good status.
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
Yes Heaven forbid Israel should get upset....She's got a brain and has used it. The dems will bring back the US to it's original good status.
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Israel is a much more important ally than Syria. Pelosi used her brain? I guess that is a matter of opinion. If you mean the Dems will bring back America to the time when growing threats are allowed to grow and materialize before action is taken...you are probably correct, that is what they do.
 
MTAFFI said:
Indeed lets hope so!

November 4, 2008 the US will have new leadership
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Except he/she will not be President until January 20, 2009. A lot can happen in Bush's last 2 months.

The first Presidential Inauguration took place on April 30, 1789. George Washington had been President since March 4, of that year but did not get officially sworn in until April 30. From then until 1938, US Presidents were sworn in on March 4th.

In 1938, the 20th Amendment to the Constitution changed the inauguration date to January 20. This was done to shorten the lame duck term of the existing president.
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Source: http://www.calendarmine.com/Holidays/American_PresidentialInaugurationDay.asp
 

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