Iranian converts to Christianity

true, iran has a population of 70 million, lol and they say only 70,000 converted, that is nothing, and for every convert to christianity we get 3 to Islam.

it may be nothing compared to the 70 million, but it is something.....and true about every convert to christianity, we get three to islam.....who knows even more...islam is the fastest growing religion.....and one thing is weird....wat point in islam did they disagree with that caused them to convert....
 
Imagine that though, I mean, ok this many ratio to this many.

But still 70,00 or what ever, all might go hell, they make their own way there. SubhanAllah.
 
i know what u'll mean...70,000 to 70,000,000.....but im saying individually....70,000 is alot....and i was also thinking about what erroes did they see in islam that caused them to convert....that would be interesting to know....
 
Iranians coverting Christianity doesnt surprise me a bit. I have seen many Iranians who come to Western Countries and leave their religion. Majority of Arabs and Pakistanis come to Western Countries and change their names. 70,000 is a huge number they left a religion of "There is no god but Allah" to there is god who is a man and his son and his wife etc.. How can you believe God is his creation? The major problem with Iran is the similar problem with Indians and Pakistanis they have weird rituals which many people believe the rituals are Islamic even though its not... Plus scholars of knowledge in these countries acutally LACK KNOWLEDGE...
 
no not really, because even those with knowledge who convert to christianity can never prove their christian faith, it is all based on EMOTION and not fact, they get told oh jesus wants to know u, oh jesus loves u, oh ur loved by god come back home, oh we christians love, and this and that, so that moves the person abit and he starts thinking with his emotions rather than logical reasoning as to why he should be a christian. go read EVERY convert story of 'knowledgable' muslims who left Islam for christianity, u will see all of them say ohhhhhhh i felt the love, i felt jesus! etc etc, which proves my point that it is all BASED ON EMOTION, NOT RATIONAL THINKING, now go read the christians who have converted to Islam, you will see a stark contrast, you will see they left christianity because they rationally compared Islam and Christianity and found christianity to be illogical and leaves u with many questions which go un-answered, while when they looked at Islam they saw all their answers and saw a real rational belief that can be easily proven and backed up, AND THAT MY FRIEND IS THE DIFFERENCE.

Talk about ignorant characterization! Wow.

Although, it is the case for me. I experienced Jesus, so I followed him.
Now I'm older, and wiser. So I've considered Islam. With all do respect, I could become Jewish because it makes sense, I could become Buddhist because it connects with my Canadian culture, but I could not become Muslim. It isn't rational. And the "proofs" are far from it.

But I respect Muslims, and admit I might be wrong. I don't think so. I think that I've chosen the right path, but I don't condemn those who follow Islam. They are bros & sisters in humanity, and God will be the judge, not me.

I just wish that Muslims would take the time to understand Christians. Some do, but it isn't always the case.
 
Not just Muslims Brenton. If you are going to mention who needs to understand who, it should be that everyone needs to understand each other.
I don't like the fact that it always falls towards Muslims.
 
Not just Muslims Brenton. If you are going to mention who needs to understand who, it should be that everyone needs to understand each other.
I don't like the fact that it always falls towards Muslims.

I agree--everyone should seek understanding. I put the emphasis on my own Christian community first.
 

I seek refuge in Allah (The One God) from the Satan (devil) the cursed, the rejected

With the name of ALLAH (swt) -The Bestower Of Unlimited Mercy, The Continously Merciful


Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh (May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you)


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.....I've considered Islam. With all do respect, I could become Jewish because it makes sense, I could become Buddhist because it connects with my Canadian culture, but I could not become Muslim. It isn't rational. And the "proofs" are far from it.......



---what's so wrong with Islam ? Care to explain ? :uuh:
 
Comeon guys this isn't a race.

Salaam/peace;


I think , it’s important who are leaving Islam & who are accepting it. So far , I’ve not heard of any prominent Imam or religious Muslim scholars who left Islam .

But , on the contrary , I can give u a list of scholars & religious figures of ex-Jews & ex- Christians who accepted Islam despite the hostile media propaganda .

I think , it’s a very imp point :D

 
There is nothing wrong with ISlam. I just find it a lot to believe, that God spoke only to one man, and then that man goes to war. I respect it as a religion, and really appreciate the greatness of the literature and the imperial feats of Islam, but I don't buy it.
 
Talk about ignorant characterization! Wow.

Although, it is the case for me. I experienced Jesus, so I followed him.
Now I'm older, and wiser. So I've considered Islam. With all do respect, I could become Jewish because it makes sense, I could become Buddhist because it connects with my Canadian culture, but I could not become Muslim. It isn't rational. And the "proofs" are far from it.

But I respect Muslims, and admit I might be wrong. I don't think so. I think that I've chosen the right path, but I don't condemn those who follow Islam. They are bros & sisters in humanity, and God will be the judge, not me.

I just wish that Muslims would take the time to understand Christians. Some do, but it isn't always the case.


your talking nonsense, Islam isnt rational? erm do you know what Islam is? It is to believe in one God, his messengers, his books, his angels, and the unseen, and to pray, fast, pay zakat, and do the hajj. that isnt rational? ah yes, rational to you is an innocent man comming down to die for your sin, and that man is god, yes that is rational right? god dies, and yes another man has to pay for your sin, hmmmmmmmmm how unrational indeed, 3=1, yes very very rational.
 
Salaam/peace;


I think , it’s important who are leaving Islam & who are accepting it. So far , I’ve not heard of any prominent Imam or religious Muslim scholars who left Islam .

But , on the contrary , I can give u a list of scholars & religious figures of ex-Jews & ex- Christians who accepted Islam despite the hostile media propaganda .

I think , it’s a very imp point :D



Sis, its NOT a race. What I meant was we should worry about the kind of Muslims we r and choose to be. Counting people who come to Islam or leave it isnt going to determine our destiny on Qiyaamah. Allah guides whom He wills. And those that do not wish to be guided cannot be guided.

Plain and simple.
Anyways please stop taking my simple post and dragging it. <--- This goes to a lot of people.

:sl:
 
There is nothing wrong with ISlam. I just find it a lot to believe, that God spoke only to one man, and then that man goes to war. I respect it as a religion, and really appreciate the greatness of the literature and the imperial feats of Islam, but I don't buy it.

i suggest you go learn your bible, when god talked to moses he went to war did he not? yes he did, and not only that, in the war your bible says moses killed women and children (which i dont believe) so plz next time if you want to make a case be abit honest instead of comming with double standards, if you have a problem with prophets going to war then go throw your OT away because many prophets in the bible made war under gods order, and here are the bible verses incase u wana play with me saying no war happened:

Deuteronomy
Chapter 2




32-37

And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have begun to give Sihon and his land before thee: begin to possess, that thou mayest inherit his land. 32 Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, to fight at Jahaz. 33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. 36 From Aroer, which is by the brink of the river of Arnon, and from the city that is by the river, even unto Gilead, there was not one city too strong for us: the LORD our God delivered all unto us

Deuteronomy
Chapter 3




1-7

1 Then we turned, and went up the way to Bashan: and Og the king of Bashan came out against us, he and all his people, to battle at Edrei. 2 And the LORD said unto me, Fear him not: for I will deliver him, and all his people, and his land, into thy hand; and thou shalt do unto him as thou didst unto Sihon king of the Amorites, which dwelt at Heshbon. 3 So the LORD our God delivered into our hands Og also, the king of Bashan, and all his people: and we smote him until none was left to him remaining. 4 And we took all his cities at that time, there was not a city which we took not from them, threescore cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. 5 All these cities were fenced with high walls, gates, and bars; beside unwalled towns a great many. 6 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. 7 But all the cattle, and the spoil of the cities, we took for a prey to ourselves


Deuteronomy
Chapter 7




1-6

1 When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girga****es, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; 2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them: 3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. 4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly. 5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth

wow i guess u shud throw ur bible away, as u said, u dont buy it that god talks to a man and then he goes to war, well lookkkkkkkkkkkk here moses did it lol under gods command. go learn ur bible before u wanna come try and take a cheap shot against Islam and dont deny it, i know u were taking a cheap shot, next talk dont talk out of ignorance. :shade:
 
There is nothing wrong with ISlam. I just find it a lot to believe, that God spoke only to one man, and then that man goes to war. I respect it as a religion, and really appreciate the greatness of the literature and the imperial feats of Islam, but I don't buy it.



Salaam/peace;

It’s ok if u don’t buy it ; but I think u have some misconception about war in Islam & u did not compare it with ur own holy book.


In war , when Bible tells u to show no mercy & kill anything that breaths , Quran tells us to ESCORT enemies if they want peace & want to hear words of God. I don’t know , if other holy books have such command.



That’s why I m asking to tell us what else u find disturbing/unacceptable in Islam ? Of course , if u don’t want to discuss , then I won’t insist.


Many people misunderstand Islam because of us ( today’s bad Muslims :cry: ) . One of our reverts was really frustrated.


Islam is wonderful, but I can't stand the Muslims


"Why should I try to convert my non-Muslim friends when I often prefer them to the Muslims that I know?

How will being Muslim change their lives for the better if they already display more of the Islamic virtues than most of the Muslims they are likely to meet?"

By British convert to Islam, Michael A. Malik.


http://www.islamfortoday.com/converts.htm


 
No sis u didnt. I just got annoyed at that moment cuz everyone fails to see my point, even when its clear. No one stops for a moment to think about what I meant. Anyways sis, dont worry about it :D

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