Is Islam a violent religion?

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Is Islam a violent religion or a religion that condones violence?

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MTAFFI said:
Do you view Islam as a violent religion? Why or why not
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No. The only time violence is desirable is in the face of oppression and in that case it is self-defence. For any other reason violence is condemmed by Allah as revealed in the Noble Quran.

"And seek not occasions for mischief in the land: for Allah loves not those who do mischief" (28:77)

Even in the face of oppression muslims are taught not to transgress beyond their limits.

"If any do transgress the limits ordained by Allah, such persons wrong themselves as well as others" (2:229)


As a community as well as an individual, a muslim is commanded to deal with all mankind justly.

"Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for your faith, nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: For Allah loves those who are just" (60:8)

and...

"And let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do" (5:8)

Furthermore, Islam has clear rules that forbid the killing of innocent people such as women, children and the elderly. Fleeing/injured persons cannot be persued and mutilation of dead bodies (combatants) is forbidden, as it the destruction of building and places which have no connection with the enemies of Islam (oppressors).


The Qur’an says about the one who kills an innocent person: “….it would be as if he killed the whole of mankind: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole of mankind.” [Al-Qur’an 5:32]


brenton said:
I am troubled by a couple events in the Prophet's life, but I don't see Islam as essentially violent.
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Would you like to share the events in question as well as the source plz?

Peace.
 
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One thing that i just wna throw in is that the maximum amount of people killed within the 23yrs of prophethood was 2000 - and most of these took place because the enemy attacked muslims first, compared to the mass murders (in millions) done within the world wars, and other events which involve crusades etc.

People accuse islaam of violence because some people do crimes nowadays, so their labelled as muslim terrorists, yet the terrorist attacks done by those who reject islaam are way more worse and harmful.
 
I believe our Member Brenton raised an excellent question it the other thread about "Is Christianity a violent Religion?"


brenton said:
Do these threads presume that violence is evil?
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Our answers will differ on how we perceive violence is meant on this thread.
 
hola,

gracias netprince, i would not have responded without your kind encouragement.

i think this is a very difficult question... i think i agree with many things posters are saying here... such as "i do see islam as essentially violent" and "there are some things about mohammed that bother me" and i agree that the bigger question is whether we believe violence in any situation is wrong.

i do not believe in war or killing at all... as a personal and religious philosophy. and i think violence of any kind is uncivilized... but i am married to an air force officer who comes from a family of soldiers... and i understand that many people believe some kinds of violence are necessary or even good... even though i do not believe that. even though i would never disagree with my husband in front of anyone... that is not my place...

so i think that even though i do not believe it i do not consider people evil for believing it... i think that maybe they have just not come to a point in their lives that they can understand the effect of violence...

anyway, with that said i agree with posters who are saying that islam allows for violence in certain contained situations... and i agree with woodrows comment on the other poll that the actions of people are not the same as the religion...

so... i think maybe i have an opinion somewhere in this... maybe something like respectful or understanding disagreement? i do not mean to temper the intensity of the disagreement i have with the place of violence in islam, it is something i am very put off by... but i do mean to say that i understand there are noble intentions behind even this...

one thing that does concern me... is the way muslims themselves talk about certain aspects of their history that i thought they would think was misguided extremism... this does concern me... but that is not something we should talk about.

also another thing that concerns me is the issue of mohammed himself... who i consider a separate topic from islam in some regards...

i hope nobody is insulted... i love expressing my thoughts about these sensitive issues because truthfully they are the things i am most curious about and wish i could overcome my shyness to ask... but i know that they cause many hurt feelings and i do not know how to say what i wish to say sometimes... and also i do not believe it is polite to say things that upset people... so i never know how or when to respond to these very interesting threads...

Dios te bendiga
 
Jayda said:
i hope nobody is insulted... i love expressing my thoughts about these sensitive issues because truthfully they are the things i am most curious about and wish i could overcome my shyness to ask... but i know that they cause many hurt feelings and i do not know how to say what i wish to say sometimes... and also i do not believe it is polite to say things that upset people... so i never know how or when to respond to these very interesting threads...

Dios te bendiga
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If you have questions i personally think it best to ask. Like i said before, if the question is asked respectfully and with good manners then i know you wont offend people. There are many knowledgeable people here who might be able to provide answers. Whether the answers are satisfactory or not, is something only you would be able to decide. Problems arise when ill-mannered and ignorant people attack someones belief, which i know your not so you wouldnt do.
 
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My personal belief is that Islam as a religion isn't any more violent than any other religion has been or is. However, I believe there is a political component at play here,that while not necessarily a part of Islam the overall religion, does use religion for its own purposes. Many are willing to justify any act of violence by Muslims, regardless of the objectives or purpose. That is what I see as the problem. There is such a "them and us" mindset among many Muslims that the concept of basic human morality goes out the window. Just my two cents, and my intent was not to insult anyone or any religion.
 
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MTAFFI said:
Do you view Islam as a violent religion? Why or why not
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… If someone kills another person—unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth—it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind.

Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs, but even after that, many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur’an, 5:32)



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All forms of terrorist attack are roundly condemned in Islam. In Islam, it is a great sin to kill an innocent person, and anyone who does so will suffer great torment in the Hereafter

The pdf and txt verisons of the book Islam Denounces Terrorism are also available.
http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com
 
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All forms of terrorist attack are roundly condemned in Islam. In Islam, it is a great sin to kill an innocent person, and anyone who does so will suffer great torment in the Hereafter
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Please define for me the Islamic meaning of innocent. Are Christians, Jews, Buddists, etc innocent according to Islam?
 
Actually yes, especially if they are doing no harm. You cant harm anyone who hasnt done anything. If someone attacks we can defend ourselves, but even in war, we cannot transgress our limits. If the other side seeks peace, then we should seek peace.
 
north_malaysian said:
Islam and Muslim are two different things...
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Sadly you are right.

By definition a Muslim is a person who practices Islam [Submission to Allah(swt)]

But there are those who wear the name Muslim, but do not practice Islam.
 
Islam Means "Peace" and Muslim mean "the one who has submitted to Allah's Will" . When both these terms are very much clear then how can there be a place for violence ?

"But God doth call to the home of peace. [YA: "Salam, peace is from the same root as Islam, the religion of unity and harmony."] He doth guide whom He pleaseth to a way that is straight. To those who do right is a goodly (reward) - yea, more (than in measure)! [YA: "The reward of the righteous will be far more than in proportion to their merits. For they will have the supreme bliss of being near to God, No darkness nor shame shall cover their faces! They are companions of the garden. They will abide therein (for aye)!" (Sura 10:25,26)
 
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Islam Means "Peace"
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Actually Bro "Islam" means submission it's derived from "Peace" , but the accurate translation of the word is submission.
 
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Actually Bro "Islam" means submission it's derived from "Peace" , but the accurate translation of the word is submission.
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I think you are correct, We can ask our brother from Saudi, if he does not know than what do you expect from others? LOL. Only kidding I am sure their are other members here knowledgable especially in arabic.
 
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