Is Islam a violent religion?

[D.Y.R#7XTRUST]

See I am a Fundamentalist Christian and do believe that Islam is on the most part peaceful as long as your not a radiculist. But I also believe that the radicules take certain scriptures of the Quran and twist them to fit their anger. Also I understand that you have different penalties for specific sins, like adultery, and stealing. Thou I do disagree with such penalties.

But it seems that you guys have been given a bad name because of some losers who decided it was Allahs will to kill innocent people because America is full of Idols. I do agree that North America is full of Idols, and as a Christian in this country you really have to pray to make sure there are none in your own life. But as for them destroying the trade centers because of it, I don't agree with that. But I realize that only about 10% of Muslims carry such a mindset. I guess the problem is who is who, and thats why we are weary of such a religion. Because when you think about it 10% of over a million Muslims is a pretty large number.

 

[FBI]

See I am a Fundamentalist Christian and do believe that Islam is on the most part peaceful as long as your not a radiculist. But I also believe that the radicules take certain scriptures of the Quran and twist them to fit their anger. Also I understand that you have different penalties for specific sins, like adultery, and stealing. Thou I do disagree with such penalties

This is incorrect, like I said islam is also a militant religion, it makes sanctions for war, so to say that only Radicals would be involved with any violence is incorrect, cause if u look at islam you'll see it makes sanctions for violence under specific conditions.

 

[Skillganon]

See I am a Fundamentalist Christian and do believe that Islam is on the most part peaceful as long as your not a radiculist. But I also believe that the radicules take certain scriptures of the Quran and twist them to fit their anger. Also I understand that you have different penalties for specific sins, like adultery, and stealing. Thou I do disagree with such penalties.

But it seems that you guys have been given a bad name because of some losers who decided it was Allahs will to kill innocent people because America is full of Idols. I do agree that North America is full of Idols, and as a Christian in this country you really have to pray to make sure there are none in your own life. But as for them destroying the trade centers because of it, I don't agree with that. But I realize that only about 10% of Muslims carry such a mindset. I guess the problem is who is who, and thats why we are weary of such a religion. Because when you think about it 10% of over a million Muslims is a pretty large number.

"some people decided Allah will to kill innocent people because America is full of Idol?", I think that is grossly incorrect. I think enough has been said about that incident.

and I hope 10% of the christian do not profess the kind of christianity of mainly Bush and Blair.

 

[D.Y.R#7XTRUST]

Sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone with my post.

 

[north_malaysian]

Sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone with my post.

It's your personal view and understanding... I'm not offended... some of it are true...

 

[D.Y.R#7XTRUST]

This is incorrect, like I said islam is also a militant religion, it makes sanctions for war, so to say that only Radicals would be involved with any violence is incorrect, cause if u look at islam you'll see it makes sanctions for violence under specific conditions.

Well I guess my question would be what are the conditions of which one would sanction war?

But I'm not saying your a radicule if you stone a man or women caught in adultery though it looks like I said that.(I just don't agree with it, but I understand why you do) Thats a miswording mistake on my part. But I am saying your a radicule if you kill or go at war with another country just because they are against what you stand for. Sometimes we just have to accept, and even voice what we believe. But to destroy because you disagree with the way they operate would be totaly wrong in my books anyway.

 

[FBI]

Well I guess my question would be what are the conditions of which one would sanction war?

But I'm not saying your a radicule if you stone a man or women caught in adultery though it looks like I said that.(I just don't agree with it, but I understand why you do) Thats a miswording mistake on my part. But I am saying your a radicule if you kill or go at war with another country just because they are against what you stand for. Sometimes we just have to accept, and even voice what we believe. But to destroy because you disagree with the way they operate would be totaly wrong in my books anyway.

I understand where your comming from.

 

[Dawud_uk]

Do you view Islam as a violent religion? Why or why not

in islam we are peaceful with those who are peaceful with us, if you slap me i will ask you why you slapped me? do it again and i will knock you to the floor and kick you to a pulp so you cant do it again.

peace be upon those who follow righteous guidence,
Abu Abdullah

 

[RiMa AlI]

ISLAM is a relign of 'Peace' c i rest ma case.... lol

Ite ite frm ma xknwldge...all da terrorist actz r likely 2 b dne by Muslim which a totally disgree wiv yea... I fnk pple fnk lik dat.. needz 2 get their head sorted... Gud riddonz..:enough!: :enough!:
Durn da London crisis.... I still rememba it i was in ma History lessn..... we were decussin abt it n sum1 waz lik suggestn it waz da French pple... coz they ddnt won da olympic fng n diz idiot waz syn dat it waz da Muslimzz quotein da terrorist Omd i swear he had a piece of my mind...He had beeef blud.... lol.. Nw y wud i wnna mke maself lowa then him...
Frm ma understndn pple hu killl innocence shudn't b clled Muslims...N datz 4 a fact... Am u ryt or wrng.... :? Killn da innocence is sinfull n ALLAH almighty decide hu diez..Pple hu tkez dat action will get punished durin da day of judgemnt.... Da penalties r very servere in da aftawrld...

Pple givz us a inadequate nme.... WE live in a Karaf country... C n dat tony blaire...N Grge W Bush declarin war in afgan n Iraq... it jst rediculous... 4 nuclear weapon which they cud not locate...Omd... Destroyn Allah all mightyz creationl.. Killed dat fckn Presidnt.... Hw bad cud it get...

XxXxxxXxXxX

 

[FBI]

Also a problem we have is shieks and Imams sucking upto the media, trying to protray islam as this pacafistic religion when it's not.

 

[lolwatever]

it's hard making a point in a thread destined to be 3252452 pages...

but put it this way... Islam is complete way of life, as far as social behaviour, ofcourse it doesnt incite violence, no one can deny it enjoins kindness between people, caring for orphans and needy, donating etc... things that eliminate need for burglery, crime and other forms of violance.

In the case that people's security is under threat, Islam also has a practical resposne, it enjoins taking up necessary security measures to ward off threats or attacks against its denizens.

so even to answer 'YES and NO' just doesnt make sense... to me atleast.

all the best!

 

[shible]

Lack of knowledge and Mis-guidence in the society were the reasons for transforming normal humans into terrorist.

Islam has never said everyone who knows something abt it should keep it a secret, Instead it says everyone who knows something should first verify the level of truth in that info. and then if its really foolproof then circulate it to fellow brothers ans sisters without altering the content.

this is were people lack, this mis-communication abt religion has made some to pick a specific term in Islam and make their own rules. sure Allah doesn't like these kind of things

For Example Most of us have heard this following stance" There is no God But Allah ". When you take the term till God u may say Islam say's "there is no God" .

This is how most people are Misleaded about the terms of Islam

 

[Dawud_uk]

Lack of knowledge and Mis-guidence in the society were the reasons for transforming normal humans into terrorist.

Islam has never said everyone who knows something abt it should keep it a secret, Instead it says everyone who knows something should first verify the level of truth in that info. and then if its really foolproof then circulate it to fellow brothers ans sisters without altering the content.

this is were people lack, this mis-communication abt religion has made some to pick a specific term in Islam and make their own rules. sure Allah doesn't like these kind of things

For Example Most of us have heard this following stance" There is no God But Allah ". When you take the term till God u may say Islam say's "there is no God" .

This is how most people are Misleaded about the terms of Islam

assalaamu alaykum,

or maybe it is due to the fact that if scholars spoke certain points of true in the west and even in the muslim lands they would be locked up, measured up for a orange boiler suit and given a one way ticket to cuba?

i do not support terrorism, but what is terrorism? it is not as cut and dried as certain scholars found at the gates of rulers would try to make out to us.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah

 

[Keltoi]

assalaamu alaykum,

or maybe it is due to the fact that if scholars spoke certain points of true in the west and even in the muslim lands they would be locked up, measured up for a orange boiler suit and given a one way ticket to cuba?

i do not support terrorism, but what is terrorism? it is not as cut and dried as certain scholars found at the gates of rulers would try to make out to us.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah

"I do not support terrorism, but what is terrorism?" :? That is such a cliche response. 9-11, the embassy bombings in Africa, the Bali bombings, the suicide bombings in Israel, Iraq, and Afghanistan against civilians, some of the ETA attacks, IRA attacks, Tim McVeigh in OKC, Eric Rudolph, etc...these are all examples of terrorism, pure and simple.

Whether it is committed by Muslims, Christians, athiests, etc, terrorism is easily defined.

 

[Dawud_uk]

"I do not support terrorism, but what is terrorism?" :? That is such a cliche response. 9-11, the embassy bombings in Africa, the Bali bombings, the suicide bombings in Israel, Iraq, and Afghanistan against civilians, some of the ETA attacks, IRA attacks, Tim McVeigh in OKC, Eric Rudolph, etc...these are all examples of terrorism, pure and simple.

Whether it is committed by Muslims, Christians, athiests, etc, terrorism is easily defined.

keltoi,

a man drives up to a military checkpoint and blows up the car killing the soldiers at the check.

another man flying a plane drops a bomb from hundreds of feet in the air onto a different checkpoint killing different soldiers.

the west calls the first terrorism, the 2nd justified war. i call the west's standard hypocrisy!

peace be upon those who follow righteous guidence,
Abu Abdullah

 

[Keltoi]

keltoi,

a man drives up to a military checkpoint and blows up the car killing the soldiers at the check.

another man flying a plane drops a bomb from hundreds of feet in the air onto a different checkpoint killing different soldiers.

the west calls the first terrorism, the 2nd justified war. i call the west's standard hypocrisy!

peace be upon those who follow righteous guidence,
Abu Abdullah

As I stated, intentional attacks on non-combatants is the most easily defined as terrorism. Attacks against soldiers by car bombs, while not traditional combat, can be labeled a guerilla tactic. The U.S. calls these attacks "terrorist" attacks primarily because of the tactic. It is frustrating to face an enemy who seldom stands and fights but uses suicide bombs and IED devices. That frustration comes out as labeling them "terrorist attacks". However, in the world beyond political rhetoric, terrorism is easily defined.

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/peace ;

 In Islam, it is a great sin to kill an innocent person,

dougmusr : Please define for me the Islamic meaning of innocent.  Are Christians, Jews, Buddists, etc innocent according to Islam?

Of Course .

Surah 9. Repentance, Dispensation

If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah. and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge. ( verse 6 )


also , pl read post #26 of . Muslimah_Sis. Related Quranic verses are there ..... Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for your faith, nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: For Allah loves those who are just" (60:8) & more.


And pl. remember , permission was given to '' fight back'' after long 13 years of persecution. Even in war , Muslims were ordered to ' Escort ' enemies if they want peace. (9:6)

 

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

Islam is a realist religion.

It deal with every life.

It support retribution and aggresion BUT only when attacked or when it is required for justice to be done.

Unlike other religon that says god is loving and what not Islam makes clear that love comes with responsibility.

Allah does not condone gays/lesbians/
Allah does not condone backstabber,does not condone backbiter,evildoers and rapist and so on.

In Islam punishment is meted out in light of the actions and reason.

I would say that many other religon fall short for they worship the a god of man,a god that they interpret his desires.


that is why Islam is submission,,not creation.

worship the Creator not creation

 

[Jayda]

i do not support terrorism, but what is terrorism? it is not as cut and dried as certain scholars found at the gates of rulers would try to make out to us.

hola Dawud_uk,

i agree... it is one of many reasons i do not believe in violence at all... i thinkg people can justify any kind of violence if they truly wish to make it so. as long as there is an easy solution offered by violence that allows you to escape the difficult responsibility of forgiveness, people will find a way to justify the easy solution and will choose that...

Dios te bendiga

 

[skhalid]

Because I am a muslim...u cud say I am biased :rollseyes
Islam is not a violent religion...it is suppose to be the opposite...a peaceful religion...that concentrate on what they know...what they have been told by God, and Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) as well as other important people who made Islam as it is today!!! Some muslims can be considered violent...due to their interpretations of th Qur-an...and the path in life that they follow...how they understood things.:raging: