Is it OK to listen to other naats/nasheeds?

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Actually we cannot review Sufi's nasheeds through Salafi's perspective.
But we must respect to every opinions.
And I hope no one use this thread for insult each other.

Wasalamualaikum warahmatullah wabarakatuh.
 
Being with these people since young age I can truly say they are munfiq. They ("ulama") do not take care of their prayer but dance the night away on Qawali. They will overrule, rulings of Allah and his prophet peace be upon him with there fictional stories. I swear 95% of them do not take their religion serious the rest 5% are truly lost.

Assalamu alaikum,

And why did you not, when you heard it, say? 'It is not right of us to speak of this. Glory to Allah, this is a most serious slander!' (Surah al-Nur, Vs: 11-16)

From `Ubayd Allah ibn `Umar, from Nafi`:

A man said to Ibn `Umar: "I have a neighbor who bears witness against me that I commit shirk." He replied: "Say: 'La Ilaha illAllah,' you will make him a liar."

From Sawwar ibn Shabib al-A`raji:

I was sitting in Ibn `Umar's house when a man came and said: "O Ibn `Umar! There are groups of people bearing witness against us and attributing to us kufr and shirk." Ibn `Umar replied: "Woe to you! Did you not say: 'La Ilaha IllAllah'?!" Whereupon the entire household began to say La Ilaha IllAllah until the house was shaking.

From al-A`mash, from Abu Sufyan:

We came to see Jabir ibn `Abd Allah who lived in Makkah and resided with the Banu Fihr. A man asked him: "Did you [the Companions] use to call anyone from the People of the Qibla [i.e. Muslims], 'Mushrik'?" He replied: "I seek refuge in Allah." The man continued: "Did you call anyone from them 'Kafir'?" He said: "No."


Ibn Abidin states in his Radd al-Muhtar [‘al-Hashiya’]:

“The reality of cursing (la`n) is to distance from Mercy, which cannot be for other than an unbeliever (kafir).

Because of this, it is not permitted to curse a particular individual, unless it is known that they died in a state of disbelief, with proof. [It remains impermissible to curse an individual person] even if they were openly corrupt, like Yazid, according to the relied upon scholarly opinion.

One may not intend to curse everyone of such a group, because if cursing one particular individual, such as a given wrongdoer, is not permitted, then how would cursing every single oppressor be allowed? [Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar, 3.416, K: al-Talaq, B: al-Raj`a]

As for cursing a particular believer, it is a major sin, as mentioned by Imam Ibn Hajar al-Haytami in his work on major sins. [Haytami, al-Zawajir `an Iqtiraf al-Kaba'ir, 2.93]

So brother let us not lower ourselves and fall into major sin for classing others to be what they may not be, who are we to judge? But Allah is the best judge and he will judge all on the day of judgement so let us not try to do Allah's job for him but let us pray for those who are misguided and misled and ask Allah to guide them to the straight path. Ameen
 
Actually we cannot review Sufi's nasheeds through Salafi's perspective.
But we must respect to every opinions.
And I hope no one use this thread for insult each other.

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Brother, I don't know what a "Salafi's perspective" is, because I am not a Salafi. I am merely a Muslim who tries to follow Allah's command, and the sunnah of the prophet and the way of the sahaaba through Qur'an and authentic ahadeeth, taking into account the four schools of thought, without changing anything in the deen, and without introducing anything new into the deen. I have no label. We are not supposed to have labels or groups in Islam.

What I have stated is not my opinion. I am not allowed to state an opinion on any Islamic matter. Anything I have stated is according the sunnah and practice of the sahaabah, may Allah be pleased with them.

As far as I know I have not insulted anyone in this thread. If I inadvertently have, then I sincerely ask for forgiveness. All I have stated is how the deen was at the time of the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) and the sahaaba (may Allah be pleased with them) which is how it is supposed to be now and forever. If anyone finds that insulting...something is seriously wrong.....

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Brother, I don't know what a "Salafi's perspective" is, because I am not a Salafi. I am merely a Muslim who tries to follow Allah's command, and the sunnah of the prophet and the way of the sahaaba through Qur'an and authentic ahadeeth, taking into account the four schools of thought, without changing anything in the deen, and without introducing anything new into the deen. I have no label. We are not supposed to have labels or groups in Islam.

What I have stated is not my opinion. I am not allowed to state an opinion on any Islamic matter. Anything I have stated is according the sunnah and practice of the sahaabah, may Allah be pleased with them.

As far as I know I have not insulted anyone in this thread. If I inadvertently have, then I sincerely ask for forgiveness. All I have stated is how the deen was at the time of the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) and the sahaaba (may Allah be pleased with them) which is how it is supposed to be now and forever. If anyone finds that insulting...something is seriously wrong.....

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Sister Insane Insaan, I think there was a misunderstood regarding to my latest post.
That was not a response to your post. I didn't talk about your perspective, I didn't talk about you, but I talked about different opinion between two group of Muslim people.

You didn't insult anyone and even I am very appreciate your post. If I said "And I hope no one use this thread for insult each other", that was not about you, but a warning to someone else.

I am really sorry if my previous post causing a misunderstanding, please forgive me.

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Sister Insane Insaan, I think there was a misunderstood regarding to my latest post.
That was not a response to your post. I didn't talk about your perspective, I didn't talk about you, but I talked about different opinion between two group of Muslim people.

You didn't insult anyone and even I am very appreciate your post. If I said "And I hope no one use this thread for insult each other", that was not about you, but a warning to someone else.

I am really sorry if my previous post causing a misunderstanding, please forgive me.

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I am very sorry. I guess I did misunderstand your last post, and I jumped to conclusions as to what you were implying. So you will have to forgive me lol.

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How about this popular shalawat ?.

Yaa Nabi salaam 'alaika
Yaa Rasool salaam 'alaika
Yaa Habiib salaam 'alaika
Sholawattullah 'alaika


Is this shirk or bid'ah lyric ?.

Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, yes i myself have said this durood when i visited the Prophet (Pbuh) grave in Medina.

This is to be said when you visit Rasulallah (Pbuh) grave because he can hear you just like the dead can hear when us when we visit a grave and say "Asalaamu Alaikum Ya Ahlal Qabur", they then reply to this and give salaam back.

Sameway we say this durood because we are present where Rasulallah (Pbuh) is lying in his grave.

How can we say it anywhere else when he is not present? According to hadith it is stated that when one sends durood on the Prophet (Pbuh) then an angel send the salaam to the Prophet and then send the salaam back back to us.

NOWHERE does it say that Rasulallah (Pbuh) can hear our durood and salaam and is everywhere. This is false and is clear shirk.

We cannot even say Allah is everywhere because "everywhere" is limited to time and space but Allah is not limited to time and space he is beyond that for time and space is only limited to this world.

Shaythan made people worship other than Allah in the sameway he is making a lot of Muslims do today because now we have people saying that Rasulallah (Pbuh) is everywhere and all around us and can hear us and answer our prayers. Then in the next few generations people will take it further by connecting him with Allah. Shaythan does everything gradually and is very clever and many of our Muslim brothers and sisters are going towards that direction today.

Rasulallah (Pbuh) did predict this and knew there will always be misled and miguided people who will have beliefs such as this.

So let us stick to the Qur'an and sunnah and not deviate from it because we are then risking falling into shirk and bida'a(innovation) and shirk can only lead to hell.

May Allah guide us to the straight path and not the path of those who went astray or were ignorant but the path of those whom Allah favoured. Ameen
 
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NOWHERE does it say that Rasulallah (Pbuh) can hear our durood and salaam and is everywhere. This is false and is clear shirk.

We cannot even say Allah is everywhere because "everywhere" is limited to time and space but Allah is not limited to time and space he is beyond that for time and space is only limited to this world.
I never heard anyone said Rasulallah (Pbuh) can hear our durood and salaam and is everywhere.
But many Ulama in my place say Allah is everywhere.

However, I will not deny your explanation because I think you are not wrong and I know you have strong arguments that based on Qur'an and hadeeth.
Insha Allah, I shall learn further about Islam to understand why you say "We cannot even say Allah is everywhere".

Jazak Allah khair.
 
I never heard anyone said Rasulallah (Pbuh) can hear our durood and salaam and is everywhere.
But many Ulama in my place say Allah is everywhere.

However, I will not deny your explanation because I think you are not wrong and I know you have strong arguments that based on Qur'an and hadeeth.
Insha Allah, I shall learn further about Islam to understand why you say "We cannot even say Allah is everywhere".

Jazak Allah khair.

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Watch this video link of Dr Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips, that a sister gave me in another thread. It will answer some of your questions about why we cannot say Allah is everywhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjvk5GxRIt4

Hope you find it helpful.

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EDIT: “In this connection, a hadith has been related by Malik in his Muwatta' and
by Muslim in his Sahih, that Muawiya ibn al-Hakam came to the Prophet
(Allah bless him and give him peace) and told him, "I am very newly from the
Jahiliyya, and now Allah has brought Islam," and he proceeded to ask about
various Jahiliyya practices, until at last he said that he had slapped his slave
girl, and asked if he should free her, as was obligatory if she was a believer.
The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) requested that she be
brought, and then asked her, "Where is Allah?" and she said, "Above the sky"
whereupon he asked her, "Who am I?" and she said, "You are the
Messenger of Allah"; at which he said, Free her, "for she is a believer" (Sahih
Muslim)”

This hadith is straight-forward proof that the Islamic belief ratified and taught by
the Prophet is that Allah, our Lord is above the sky. (and not everywhere). That appears to be a criteria for imaan from the above hadeeth.

Allah knows best.
 
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I never heard anyone said Rasulallah (Pbuh) can hear our durood and salaam and is everywhere.
But many Ulama in my place say Allah is everywhere.

However, I will not deny your explanation because I think you are not wrong and I know you have strong arguments that based on Qur'an and hadeeth.
Insha Allah, I shall learn further about Islam to understand why you say "We cannot even say Allah is everywhere".

Jazak Allah khair.

A lot of brelvees do claim that Rasulallah (Pbuh) is omni-present and that he can hear us where ever we may be.

That is why a lot of them are heard saying: "Ya rasulallah" and "Asalawatu wasalaamu Alaika Ya Rasulallah" most of the time where ever they are especially after salah and before and after Adhan.

The brelvees are followers of Imam Ahmed Raza Barelvi. He may or may not have taught these beliefs but the brelvees of today claim to be his followers and continue to committ shirk and bida'a today especially in the Indian subcontinent which i have seen for myself a lot of their unIslamic practices and it does sadden me and is very unfortunate but we have to continue to try and teach them the right way and inform them of the truth and make dua that Allah guides them.

May Allah save us from going astray. Ameen
 
I never heard anyone said Rasulallah (Pbuh) can hear our durood and salaam and is everywhere.
But many Ulama in my place say Allah is everywhere.

However, I will not deny your explanation because I think you are not wrong and I know you have strong arguments that based on Qur'an and hadeeth.
Insha Allah, I shall learn further about Islam to understand why you say "We cannot even say Allah is everywhere".

Jazak Allah khair.

Question: How should a Muslim respond to where Allah Almighty is? As this is great Aqidah confusion between the ummah?


Answer: In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,


The issue of “Where is Allah?” is something that was never debated or made a matter of dispute among the Muslims throughout the ages and eras. Unfortunately, due to immense ignorance about our deen, certain Muslims spend and waist their precious time arguing about petty and trivial issues and forget about their real duties and responsibilities.

The belief (aqidah) one must have regarding his Lord and Creator is that Allah Almighty is One, there is nothing like Him, there is nothing that can overwhelm Him, there is no god besides Him and He is Eternal without a beginning and Enduring without end. He will neither perish nor come to an end and nothing happens except what He wills. No imagination can conceive of Him and no understanding can comprehend Him. He is different from any created being.

Allah Most High says about Himself:

“There is nothing whatever unto like Him.” (Surah al-Shura, 11).

And He says in Surah al-Ikhlas:

“And there is none like unto Him.” (112: 4).

Due to the above and other texts of the Qur’an and Sunnah, one of the major beliefs a Muslim must have regarding Allah Most High is that there is no creation that is similar to Him. If Allah is regarded to be similar or resemble or have any qualities of His creation, then that would constitute disbelief (Kufr).

Imam Abu Hamid al-Ghazali (Allah have mercy on him) states:

“Whoever thinks that Allah has a body made of organs, then he is an idol-worshipper…Whosoever worships a body is regarded a disbeliever by the consensus of all the scholars, the early scholars (salaf) and the late (muta’akhirun)” (Iljam al-Anam an Ilm al-Kalam, 6-8).

If one believes that there is nothing similar to Allah in any way, then his Aqidah is correct and there is no need for disputes and arguments. I believe that there isn’t a Muslim that really believes that Allah is similar to his creation in any way, thus disputes and arguments must be avoided. Yes, if one does believe that Allah has hands, feet, face, etc…that is similar to his creation, then without doubt this person would come out of the fold of Islam.

Regarding the question, “where is Allah?” firstly, it should be remembered that this is not something that one will be asked about on the day of Qiyamah. We are in need of people really learning about the basics of Islam, rather than engaging themselves in these matters. Those that argue and cause destruction with such issues are normally ignorant about even the basics of Salat, Zakat, Hajj, etc… We need to really wake up and smell the coffee!

Secondly, this question in itself is wrong. We ask regarding the whereabouts of a person that lives in time and space. For example, I encompass time, meaning I live in time, and I have a body that needs to fill some space.

However, Allah, Mighty and Majestic, is the creator of time and space. If we limit Him to any time or space, then this would imply that we resemble Him to his creation by giving Him a body, as space is limited. If one was to say that Allah is everywhere, then this is wrong, as ‘everywhere’ is limited and ends somewhere, whereas Allah is not limited.

Similarly, to say that Allah is on earth, sky, moon, sun, throne, etc… is also wrong, as all these things are limited and to limit Allah to any created thing is Kufr.

Imam al-Tahawi (Allah have mercy on him) states in his famous al-Aqida al-Tahawiyya:

“He (Allah) is beyond having limits placed on Him, or being restricted, or having parts or limbs. Nor is He contained by six directions as all created things are.” (P. 9).

Imam al-Nasafi (Allah have mercy on him) states:

“He (Allah) is not a body (jism), nor an atom (jawhar), nor is He something formed (musawwar), nor a thing limited (mahdud), nor a thing numbered (ma’dud), nor a thing portioned or divided, nor a thing compounded (mutarakkab), nor does He come to end in Himself. He is not described by quiddity (al-ma’hiya), or by quality (al-kayfiyya), nor is He placed in space (al-makan), and time (al-zaman) does not affect Him. Nothing resembles Him, that is to say, nothing is like Him.” (See: Sa’d al-Din al-Taftazani & Najm al-Din al-Nasafi, Sharh al-Aqa’id al- Nasafiyya, 92-97).

In conclusion, one must have the Aqidah that Allah Most High is pure from space and time. It is wrong to say that He is everywhere and it is also wrong to believe that He is on something, as all these are limited whereas Allah Almighty is limitless. However, we must believe that His knowledge encompasses everything, and he knows, sees and listens to everything.


And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari
 
Salams,

Sending salutations to the Prophet is important and it is in the Quran, Muslims do it each time after every obligatory prayer.

Qur’an 33:56

Verily, Allah and His Angels send blessings on the Prophet: O you who believe! Send blessings on him, and salute him with a worthy salutation.

Muslim narrated in his Sahih from Abu Hurairah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and give him peace) said ‘he who invokes blessings on me once, Allah sends ten blessings upon him.’

Narrated by Ubai bin Ka’ab (may Allah be pleased with him), who said; ‘I said, ‘O Messenger of Allah, I supplicate often, so how much of my supplication should I devote to you?’ He replied, ‘as you desire’. I said, ‘a quarter of it?’ He said ‘as you desire, but if you were to increase upon this, it would be better for you.’ I said, ‘half of it?’ He said, ‘as you desire, but if you were to increase upon this, it would be better for you.’ I said, ‘two-thirds of it?’ He said again, ‘as you desire, but if you were to increase upon this, it would be better for you.’ Finally I said, ‘and if I dedicate my supplication in its entirety to you?’ He said, ‘then your needs will be satisfied, and your sins forgiven.’

Narrated by Ahmad, Tirmidhi, and Hakim, who declared it to be a rigorously authenticated tradition of the Prophet (may Allah bless him and give him peace).

http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/salawat.htm
 
Salams,

Muhammad ibn Ahmad al-Marwazi said:

-- I once heard Ahmad ibn Hanbal say, 'Whenever you enter a cemetary, recite the Opening Chapter of the Book, the Two Refuge-taking Chapters, and Say: He is God, the One. Make the reward of all this over to the people of the cemetary, for it will reach them.'

The Remembrance of Death and the Afterlife," translation by T.J. Winter.
 
Rasool Allah [saww] addressing the Kuffar who were killed in the battle of Badr

Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

"The Messenger of Allah spoke to the People (buried) in the Well saying: "Have you found out that what your Lord had promised you is true?" then someone exclaimed: "Are you calling out to the dead!" The Prophet replied: "You do not hear better than they do, except they do not respond."

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 452

http://www.********************/answers/can_the_dead_hear/en/chap2.php
 
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) came to the graveyard and said:

"Peace be upon you! (O) the abode of the believing people and we, if God so wills, are about to join you. I love to see my brothers. They (the hearers) said: Aren't we your brothers-Messenger of Allah? He said: You are my companions, and our brothers are those who have, so far, not come into the world."

Sahih Muslim, Book 002, Number 0482

Proof from Quran and Hadith that dead can hear
 
QUOTE=Sameera;1247365]Salams,

Muhammad ibn Ahmad al-Marwazi said:

-- I once heard Ahmad ibn Hanbal say, 'Whenever you enter a cemetary, recite the Opening Chapter of the Book, the Two Refuge-taking Chapters, and Say: He is God, the One. Make the reward of all this over to the people of the cemetary, for it will reach them.'

The Remembrance of Death and the Afterlife," translation by T.J. Winter.[/QUOTE]

Rasool Allah [saww] addressing the Kuffar who were killed in the battle of Badr

Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

"The Messenger of Allah spoke to the People (buried) in the Well saying: "Have you found out that what your Lord had promised you is true?" then someone exclaimed: "Are you calling out to the dead!" The Prophet replied: "You do not hear better than they do, except they do not respond."

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 452

http://www.********************/answers/can_the_dead_hear/en/chap2.php

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) came to the graveyard and said:

"Peace be upon you! (O) the abode of the believing people and we, if God so wills, are about to join you. I love to see my brothers. They (the hearers) said: Aren't we your brothers-Messenger of Allah? He said: You are my companions, and our brothers are those who have, so far, not come into the world."

Sahih Muslim, Book 002, Number 0482

Proof from Quran and Hadith that dead can hear

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We all give salaams to the dead when we visit the graveyard, and to rasoolullah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam, at his blessed raudha, because the dead can hear what is being said in front of them. Is there any authentic evidence of rasoolullah sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam having talked to or invoked the dead in a different country, or in another part of the same country, believing that they could hear him, or any of his companions having done that after his death, or having taught us to do so? I believe that there is no authentic evidence to support such a claim.

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Here is what I have found:


Ibn al-Qayyim writes that the Prophet of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) said:

"Send salutations on me, but send more salutations on Friday. When you recite the salutation, your voice will reach me wherever you are. Some Companions asked, "Even after your death?" The Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) replied, "Allah has made it unlawful for the earth to decompose my body"

[Ibn-al-Qayyim, Jala-ul-Afhaan, page 145]

The Messenger of Allah, (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), heard the footsteps of Bilal,may Allah be pleased with Him, in Paradise.

[Bukhari and Muslim Kitab-al-Manaqib., fazail Bilal]

"The Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) stated: 'I hear the voice of every person who sends salams (peace and blessings) upon me, wherever he may be.'

[Ibn-al-Qayyim, Jala-al-Afham, page 145]

Our Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) said: 'On the night of Mi'raj I passed Prophet Musa's grave.He was standing in his grave and offering salat.'

This is well away from this world, not just another country.

http://www.islamicinformationcentre.co.uk/alsunna1.htm
 
Salams Sis Sanity,

Do you not say the durood (salutations) to the prophet in salah?

We do it all the time and we are (Sunni) Muslims. As far as I know, you do not have to be at the prophet's grave in order to send salutations.

WS
 
Salams Sis Sanity,

Do you not say the durood (salutations) to the prophet in salah?

We do it all the time and we are (Sunni) Muslims. As far as I know, you do not have to be at the prophet's grave in order to send salutations.

WS

Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, My sister no one is disputing the fact that we should send durood and salaam to the Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) as much as we can but what is false for you to state is that Rasulallah (Pbuh) can hear us wherever he is.

My sister be very careful when quoting from brelvee websites as a lot of their beliefs are heretical and false and it is knowledge that we should aqcuire that will fill in the gaps in our lack of knowledge and it is incumbant that we seek knowledge from the right sources and not of those who have heretical and erroneous beliefs.

The Qur’an denies the possibility of the dead in their graves possessing the faculty of hearing. Allah , the Blessed and Exalted, states:

“Verily you cannot make the dead hear and you can not make the deaf hear the call when they turn their backs and retreat.” [Surah an-Naml 27:80]

“The living and the dead are not alike. Allah makes whoever he wishes hear, but you cannot make those in the graves hear.” [Surah Fatir 35:22]

In the first verse Allah addresses His messenger, Muhammad (salallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam), reminding him that he cannot make the disbelievers hear the invitation to Islam, for they are like the dead, who do not hear either. In the second verse Allah points to the difference between the living and the dead – they are not all alike. He further clarifies to His prophet that he cannot make the rejectors of faith hear the message (for they are dead in heart and in spirit) any more than he can make those in the graves hear what is spoken to them!

Just as the Qur’an denies the possibility of the deceased possessing the faculty of hearing, there are a number of texts in the sunnah which arrive at the same conclusion. One such hadith follows:

Ibn Mas’ud reported that the Prophet (salallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said: “[Allah has angels who travel about the earth; they [do and will] convey to me the peace greeting from my ummah.”
[Authentically reported by Abu Dawud]

This hadith clarifies that the Prophet (salallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) does not hear the greetings of peace from Muslims when they pronounce it upon him, for if he could hear it directly, there would be no need of angels to convey it to him.
 
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Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, My sister no one is disputing the fact that we should send durood and salaam to the Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) as much as we can but what is false for you to state is that Rasulallah (Pbuh) can hear us wherever he is.

Can you please tell wheer did I quote this?

I have not quoted anything of teh sort. I am refering solely to Quran verses and hadiths. The sch0lar named who stated this was Ibn Qayyum

My sister be very careful when quoting from brelvee websites

Can you pelase tell me which of the quotes I posted are from "brelvee"?

Brother, I look at the evidence and if there is evidence from the Quran and sound hadith or the sunnah then I will believe whoever it is. You must have heard of the hadith about shaytan telling a man to read ayatul kursi, when he was about to steal soemthing from the house and so the man went to the prophet and the prophet said he was shaytan but right about reciting ayatul kursi? So why should we dicriminate against other Muslims when we are ordered by Allah swt to stay united?

Anyone who firmly believes in Allah, and the prophet is the messenger of Allah, is a Muslim.
 
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Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, My sister no one is disputing the fact that we should send durood and salaam to the Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) as much as we can but what is false for you to state is that Rasulallah (Pbuh) can hear us wherever he is.

Salams,

Can you please tell where did I quote this?

I have not quoted anything of the sort. I am referring solely to Quran verses and hadiths. The scholar who stated this was Ibn Qayyim

My sister be very careful when quoting from brelvee websites

Can you please tell me which of the quotes I posted are from "brelvee"?

Brother, I look at the evidence and if there is evidence from the Quran and sound hadith or the sunnah then I will believe whoever it is. You must have heard of the hadith about shaytan telling a man to read ayatul kursi, when he was about to steal something from the house and so the man went to the prophet and the prophet said he was shaytan but right about reciting ayatul kursi? So why should we discriminate against other Muslims when we are ordered by Allah swt to stay united?

Anyone who firmly believes in Allah, and the prophet is the messenger of Allah, is a Muslim.
 
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