is this suicide? please please help!

Hamza :) said:
'Since you said you can do nothing about it'. Are you sure you can't do anything about it?
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yes. i can only whine....and wait for my death, try to get some useless home remedies for blah blah blah. and i seriously dont want to waste anytime on that. i'll die when i'll die.

tell me what you would have done?
 
ramen-thelegend said:
yes. i can only whine....and wait for my death, try to get some useless home remedies for blah blah blah. and i seriously dont want to waste anytime on that. i'll die when i'll die.

tell me what you would have done?
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Not sure. maybe go to the doctor
 
Go to the doctor sis, khalaas. As Muslims we should do everything we possibly could to prolong life, life is a sacred trust form Allah so we should take care of it, to suspect and then not take heed of a problem, and bury your head in the sand, would be an ignorant thing to do. At least go to confirm it.

There is a difference between refusing treatment because even the doctor's say it probably will not work, and then refusing treatment because you just want to leave it all to Allah SWT and wait for death.

It may not be suicide, but you would not want to take the risk of being asked as to why you didn't try to help yourself.
 
i'm going to ask my mom. but if she refuses to take me to a doctor to confirm this thing then its not my fault right?
 
^ You can go to the doctor by yourself. Your school can even help you.

Cancer cannot be diagnosed so easily.. There would have to be tests. I'm puzzled as to why a professional would even put this thought into your mind. Get checked by the doctor to put your mind at rest.

As for cost.. You live in Wales. Treatment for any illness doesn't cost a thing. Prescriptions are also free. I thought you'd know this? Try to stop worrying and start making Dua for Allah to make things easy for you and give you the strength to deal with your family.
 
Aisha said:
^ You can go to the doctor by yourself. Your school can even help you.

Cancer cannot be diagnosed so easily.. There would have to be tests. I'm puzzled as to why a professional would even put this thought into your mind. Get checked by the doctor to put your mind at rest.

As for cost.. You live in Wales. Treatment for any illness doesn't cost a thing. Prescriptions are also free. I thought you'd know this? Try to stop worrying and start making Dua for Allah to make things easy for you and give you the strength to deal with your family.
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thanks sis but i'm currently in pakistan. i do know all that. the professional asked me to do the same that everyone here is, i.e to diagnose it.

maybe i can try all that in wales in i guess....34 days...if i live....but i cant do that in pakistan,

plus i'm not sure of going back to wales..i really dont want to,my life there wasn't really good, i mean a lot worse than it is in pakistan. i've changed a lot here and i dont know what i am going to do when i go back there. in addition, they only close people to me, where i worked, they passed away 4 days back so i really dont feel like going there. i was just thinking of making another thread as to which place would be better.
plus its not like my mom is dying to take me back.

anyways, theres only 1% chances i'm staying.
so until i'm in wales i can wait?
 
ramen-thelegend said:
so until i'm in wales i can wait?
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Dear sister. If you wait it may be worse than before. Cancer is such an illness. Now you know that a doctor told you that you might be cancer. You must look for all possible ways that you are able to. There are doctors in Pakistan right? Otherwise it means you want to die and it means suicide...If you dont go to doctor you go to hell for ever!
 
The first step is to have some tests done.

This comes even before convincing yourself you have cancer. Stay positive and hope for a good result.

Once you've done that, we can help you further. Until then, us advising you is useless as you haven't actually been diagnosed. So there's a high chance it might not be cancer.
 
Salam alaykum

As you are still a child (14, not adult yet, sorry if the word child doesn´t feel good), your family has a duty to take care about the financial costs of your treatment. You write you don´t want to return back to Wales? You really should want to if you can be sure you will get treatment in there (if you have any serious disease). Think your own brains dear sister and you surely know what is the best option to you.

And listen these others in here whose give to you excellent advices.

By the way; what kind of doctor can give you such a shocking diagnosis without telling it to your parents too? :heated:
 
ramen-thelegend said:
i am sooooooo sooo soooooo realllyyy really sorry for your wife.

the thing is, you guys can afford it, your wife was loved, thats not the same for me. neither does anyone love me, or want me to stay alive, my mom n my brother have always prayed for my death, always cursing and abusing me. nor can we afford the treatment.

i guess i should rewrite my question something like....

my moms family came over 2 days back. one of my uncle is an oncologist and he started asking me questions about my routine and diet and blah blah blah. after i told him everything he said i could seriously be diagnosed with some type of blood cancer. a day passed and now he thinks i really do have cancer, i got all those symptoms and i should go and do some tests and confirm it.
i dont want to.

wait..........
if i have been told/warned by a professional that i might be having blood cancer, i observe all its symptoms but i refuse to confirm it through tests because if i do so, and turns out i really do have cancer and THEN i refuse to get treatment its going to be suicide. that is why i dont want to confirm it, i mean i want to ignore it and carry on with my daily chores, my dialy routine the same way it was before.

but what if i die within a month or so, i mean i really did have cancer...will ALLAH swt take it as suicide bcz i knew/had been warned about it.

?????
the thing is...i dont want to confirm it. if it is cancer or not, i dont care, i'm still the same i was yesterday and i'll remain the same tomorrow, its not like i'm going to sit back and wait for my death or be telling people that i'm sick or something. i just want to ignore this thing but i'm not sure if that's acceptable in islam. and islam matters to me. the afterlife matters to me. ALLAH swt orders matter to me.
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You should strive to survive and taking precautions to ensure your safety and health should be your first priority. Please go to the doctor and check if you have cancer to prevent any serious damage. You might be able to do something about it if it turns out you really do have cancer and it hasn't developed to a later stage yet. Not going to a doctor or wanting to treat yourself just because you fear you might commit suicide while being aware of the sickness is a poor reason and not strategic or beneficial on the long run, plus you are basing your actions just on assumptions. Instead of worrying wether you commit suicide or not try to cure yourself and help yourself as good as possible, that way you are free of any blame and tried anything in your ability to stop the death from occuring. You also are doing yourself a great favor by trying to ease or prevent suffering as much as you can. Don't ignore a treat that endangers your life please, it's only sensible to prolong your life as much as possible.
 
anatolian said:
Dear sister. If you wait it may be worse than before. Cancer is such an illness. Now you know that a doctor told you that you might be cancer. You must look for all possible ways that you are able to. There are doctors in Pakistan right? Otherwise it means you want to die and it means suicide...If you dont go to doctor you go to hell for ever!
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you're scaring the **** out of me
 
ok everybody ..........

my question was simple......is it ok( i mean not the best option, but the last option) to ignore symptoms of some illness????

i think yes, since you're not sure and if the treatment is worth nothing.

i dont understand why u all be like stop saying its cancer, get it diagnosed, get some tests done and all that............

thousands of good people do that...........i dont think that was such a big issue.
i seriously am not interested in lying in beds in hospitals and feeling helpless and wasting time and having restrictions over my diet and all that....

if i dont go for the tests, i'm living the same way i was before(doesn't matter i got cancer or not,yes i can, i've been doing that for over a year now) and if i do so.......i guess its better i dont.
 
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^ The answer is pretty simple too.

First find out if you have that illness. I'm not sure why this is even being contested. It's common sense.

If you do, go for treatment. One is not allowed to cause harm to themselves by refusing treatment.
 
Aisha said:
^ The answer is pretty simple too.

First find out if you have that illness. I'm not sure why this is even being contested. It's common sense.

If you do, go for treatment. One is not allowed to cause harm to themselves by refusing treatment.
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the whole point is I DONT WANT TO FIND OUT IF I HAVE THAT ILLNESS FOR SURE OR NOT

i can live without knowing that
 
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Assalamu Alaikum

Little missy, you need to stop being so dramatic over this all. Either you check yourself or you don't. The whole point of this is, if you care about your iman and your deen you will prevent your body from harm, and if you don't care then you can let it disintegrate and in the end who's going to judge you but Allah? No need to continue this discussion. I think you've gotten great replies.
 
Aisha said:
^ Cool. So there's no point to this thread then.
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the thread's point was to know if what i'm doing is ok or not?

............i think i dont know what i'm talking about........i think i just dont want to help myself.......i'm so messed up......i dont know what to do
 
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*charisma* said:
Assalamu Alaikum

Little missy, you need to stop being so dramatic over this all. Either you check yourself or you don't. The whole point of this is, if you care about your iman and your deen you will prevent your body from harm, and if you don't care then you can let it disintegrate and in the end who's going to judge you but Allah? No need to continue this discussion. I think you've gotten great replies.
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well ok then.
i'm going to talk to my mom. but not today, tomorrow, when her family leaves. i dont want to ruin this time for her, this is the first time she's met her family ever since my she's adopted me.
 
Asalamualaykum sis ramen,
Hope you are well so far, now the way you are talking about your body is as if it's yours and you made it..you didn't..it is what Allah gave you..it's an amanah from him to you..it's a gift that you hv to take care of ...since Allah has said to take care of ur health before it goes bad you have to..and the answer to your question is if you don't do anything about it it's suicide so stop telling yourself it's not..another thing is I understand he's ur uncle but I a doc too and we never say cancer until we are completely confirmed to the patient party so that was really weird..whatever the case stopthinkin so far and just get a blood test done in sha Allah that will give an outlook of what goes on in your body
 
Salaam sis,

I posted earlier on about the honey, was just thinking now,

Time of death is written, so have the honey and medicine you have, dont suffer.

May ALLAH grant us n ummah complete shifaa, ameen ameen ameen
 
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