Is USA a Christian country?

[titus]

Not at all, whereas God's mercy overtakes his wrath in Islam, we have no disillusionment about incurring it.

Exactly like I said, many Christians would argue something similar.

 

[جوري]

I do not think you were a Christian while going to the Catholic school. A Christian is someone who has restored the broken relationship with God by sincerely accepting Jesus as God’s forgiveness. It does not matter if he/she was born to Christian parents, or he/she was baptized when young, or he/she goes to church every Sunday, or he/she is a priest or pastor or even a pope. Many people in the west think they are Christians, although they are not. They are merely churchgoers.

What does this have to do with understanding the basic tenets of your religion? faith shouldn't be based on blind acceptance in totality!
some semblance of common sense has to enter the picture, especially the article having to do with your salvation!
you allege I don't know that you don't worship three gods, and I am here to tell you, I have spent quite a large chunk in a catholic school taking your religion classes and attending your masses. I have quite the clue what your beliefs entail!

By seeing the way of your writing, you seem to be infected with negative psychology. God’s eternal wrath is not caused by rejecting Jesus as the Savior and Lord! Because our sins and rebellions against God, we were doomed to the eternal separation from God which is nothing but eternal death. That was our destiny in the first place. But we were rescued from God’s eternal wrath by accepting Jesus as God’s forgiveness for our sins. God’s love for us is unconditional in character. “While we were still sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8). Regardless of whether we will receive or reject His love of forgiveness, or whether we will submit to Him or not, He first gave us Jesus as a sacrifice for our sins. This unconditional love motivates our deepest love and submission for God.

lol.. why don't you break this down? Does god love everybody, it is a yes or no question, I don't need additives or preservatives, if god loves everyone then there would be no hell!

BTW, I don't need a cognitively conservative christian assessing my psychology. I'd really work on logic and basic math before I carry it over to complex sciences!

Exactly like I said, many Christians would argue something similar.

Not at all, God doesn't love everyone, certainly not the evildoers!

all the best

 

[Ramadhan]

That is wrong, ignorant and hostile.

Then explain about US middle east policy.

 

[جوري]

Then explain about US middle east policy.

benevolence, 'democracy' and 'christian enlightenment'

 

[titus]

I love my son but I still punish him.

You seem to believe that punishment, even eternal, and love are mutually exclusive.

 

[DavidK565]

benevolence, 'democracy' and 'christian enlightenment'

I find it amusing that you can utter such random, inaccurate generalities, and not see how hypocritical you're being in the process.

The people on this board try to preach understanding and tolerance. However, you in particular do not practice what is being preached here. You make generalized, bigoted statements without giving thought to the possibility that you might have overreached.

If you want change in this world, try leading by example, rather than continuing to make all of the same mistakes, committing all of the same "crimes" that you accuse people in the west of making against Muslims do to their lack of understanding of Islam. All you're doing is propogating divisiveness.

And like I was trying to state in the beginning: Nothing is perfect, and the world is not black and white. There may be problems with the West, with the United States, with Christianity/Judaism, etc. But there are also problems with The middle east, and Islam and some of the Muslims who claim it is their religion.

 

[جوري]

I love my son but I still punish him.

You seem to believe that punishment, even eternal, and love are mutually exclusive.

If you really loved your son, then punishing him for eternity seems rather sadistic and out of reason!
punishment is meant to rehabilitate and better one, not be an eternal state!

I find it amusing that you can utter such random, inaccurate generalities, and not see how hypocritical you're being in the process.

you mean like the utter random inaccurate generalities you are spewing now?

The people on this board try to preach understanding and tolerance. However, you in particular do not practice what is being preached here. You make generalized, bigoted statements without giving thought to the possibility that you might have overreached.

another general statement about a vague misunderstanding?

If you want change in this world, try leading by example, rather than continuing to make all of the same mistakes, committing all of the same "crimes" that you accuse people in the west of making against Muslims do to their lack of understanding of Islam. All you're doing is propogating divisiveness.

I just rather like pointing them out, as well they should be pointed out to the maximum!

And like I was trying to state in the beginning: Nothing is perfect, and the world is not black and white. There may be problems with the West, with the United States, with Christianity/Judaism, etc. But there are also problems with The middle east, and Islam and some of the Muslims who claim it is their religion.

I love the way you always rise to the occasion, thank God for your presence here!

all the best

 

[DavidK565]

I love the way you always rise to the occasion, thank God for your presence here!

I love the way you try to get the last word

 

[جوري]

I love the way you try to get the last word

here is more to love!

all the best

 

[Ramadhan]

You seem to have misunderstanding. We do not worship three gods. We worship one God who is revealed in different ways (The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit). As DavidK565 said, you seem to be full of hatred and anger for whatever reason. This is a good indication that your temper comes from religious zeal instead of the love of God.

let me count again:
The father (1) + the son (1) + holy spirit (1) = 3

or
Wishnu (1) + Shiva (1) + Brahma (1) = 3

or

Isis (1) + Horus (1) + Osiris (1) = 3

or

Zeus (1) + Poseidon (1) + Hades (1) = 3 (can be many more, depending how many person-gods you want to throw in)

or

The Horned God (1) + The Goddess (1) = 2 (Many Wiccans believe that the Horned God and Goddess are merely two aspects of the same Godhead, obviously they think 2 is more efficient than three, although they also supplement the two with various gods/goddesses).

or

Thor (1) + Odin (1) = 2 (can be many more, depending on your preferences).

 

[Ramadhan]

Exactly like I said, many Christians would argue something similar.

I have yet to read about that.
So far I've seen/read is these christians evangelists/missionaries/zealots talk endlessly abouthow god loves everybody, how god's love saves us all... love this..love that...
I have yet to hear christian talks about "justice", "fairness"

 

[Ramadhan]

And like I was trying to state in the beginning: Nothing is perfect, and the world is not black and white. There may be problems with the West, with the United States, with Christianity/Judaism, etc. But there are also problems with The middle east, and Islam and some of the Muslims who claim it is their religion.

Then explain about the jewish and christian leaders and churches and majority who are the main cheerleaders for the US foreign policies that specifically have killed millions of muslims.

 

[Ramadhan]

I love my son but I still punish him.

You seem to believe that punishment, even eternal, and love are mutually exclusive.

How do you punish your son?

Do you punish your son by torturing him for the rest of his life until he dies?

 

[Karl]

U.S is a zionist/fundie country (at least of late) and that is what dictates their decision and especially foreign policies!

all the best

You hit the nail on the head LOL
All the real Christians in the USA are probably considered enemies of the state and are under constant serveilance. Look what happened at Waco Texas, Christians were exterminated.
Muslims in the US are probably targeted for termination too. They're all terrorists right?
Well maybe when the American empire falls we can all have a good nights sleep.

 

[DavidK565]

My quote that you have up there does not mean that I have to rationalize a justification for everyone's actions. It is merely a statement trying to demonstrate that no one is 100% innocent or 100% guilty. Everyone and everything is a mix of both.

On this board, I'm not going to take part in any political bickering. We're all adults here, for the most part, and all of us have our viewpoints. I doubt that anything I say would have an influence on you that would cause you to drastically change the way you look at the world. And the same probably goes for me.

Muslims have been killed and that is a shame. No one wants to see unnecessary loss of life. Christians and Jews and non-religious people have also been killed. It's all very unfortunate.

 

[جوري]

You hit the nail on the head LOL
All the real Christians in the USA are probably considered enemies of the state and are under constant serveilance. Look what happened at Waco Texas, Christians were exterminated.
Muslims in the US are probably targeted for termination too. They're all terrorists right?
Well maybe when the American empire falls we can all have a good nights sleep.

what makes you think we are not target for extermination and pretty soon by state law in that same fashion that enabled them to haul the japs and mexicans to concentration camps before.. they fix it so people think it is natural to hate out loud and turn into that mob mentality with full approval-- they couldn't open their mouth with a sliver what they spew toward any other minority, the way they do against Muslim. I am yet to go through a day without reading some disturbing vile comment or seeing someone actively suffer a sort of harassment or crime because they are bearded or covered up .. and the amazing thing is that they circulate books against us entitled because 'they hate' talk about projection?

 

[DavidK565]

You hit the nail on the head LOL
All the real Christians in the USA are probably considered enemies of the state and are under constant serveilance. Look what happened at Waco Texas, Christians were exterminated.
Muslims in the US are probably targeted for termination too. They're all terrorists right?
Well maybe when the American empire falls we can all have a good nights sleep.

Ok, I'll ignore the rest of the craziness, but just so you know, the people in the Waco Texas incident were not Christians. It was a cult of crazy people who thought that a guy named David Koresh was god. There were cases of illegal firearms and child abuse taking place.

They were not law-abiding Christians being "watched" by the government.

 

[Karl]

what makes you think we are not target for extermination and pretty soon by state law in that same fashion that enabled them to haul the japs and mexicans to concentration camps before.. they fix it so people think it is natural to hate out loud and turn into that mob mentality with full approval-- they couldn't open their mouth with a sliver what they spew toward any other minority, the way they do against Muslim. I am yet to go through a day without reading some disturbing vile comment or seeing someone actively suffer a sort of harassment or crime because they are bearded or covered up .. and the amazing thing is that they circulate books against us entitled because 'they hate' talk about projection?

But I said Muslims ARE probably targeted for termination.
Muslims had better get out of the USA for their own survival. The US is unsafe and totally uncivilized. The people there are crazy bigots, look what happened to the native Americans only a few survived and they are still fighting for their rights. No use being somewhere where your hated.

 

[Karl]

Ok, I'll ignore the rest of the craziness, but just so you know, the people in the Waco Texas incident were not Christians. It was a cult of crazy people who thought that a guy named David Koresh was god. There were cases of illegal firearms and child abuse taking place.

They were not law-abiding Christians being "watched" by the government.

So you believe in the government spin?
Same spin against Muslims, they're all child raping, women beating, militant terrorists blah blah.
BTW nothing in the bible against child marriage. And besides that most of these Christian cases the government persecution involves are young women aged around 12 or 13, not children.

 

[DavidK565]

So you believe in the government spin?
Same spin against Muslims, they're all child raping, women beating, militant terrorists blah blah.
BTW nothing in the bible against child marriage. And besides that most of these Christian cases the government persecution involves are young women aged around 12 or 13, not children.

Question: Why is the news that I listen to "spin" but the news you listen to is "fact"? Seems like BS to me...

As for the CHILD RAPE taking place, in the modern world, its a crime. It doesn't matter what the bible says about it.