Islam could become Europe’s dominant religion

[Amadeus85]

The word 'Eurabia' is just one of the funniest portmanteaus since... Brangelina.

You know, this term Eurabia wasnt invented by Oriana Fallacci, and Bat Ye Or. "Eurabia" was a magazine created in 70's to promote muslim culture in Europe and promote multiculturalism in old contonent.

 

[Muezzin]

You know, this term Eurabia wasnt invented by Oriana Fallacci, and Bat Ye Or. "Eurabia" was a magazine created in 70's to promote muslim culture in Europe and promote multiculturalism in old contonent.

I didn't know that. Thanks for telling me. It does still sound funny to me, though.

 

[Cognescenti]

"Eurabia"....

Never heard that before. Really funny.

 

[Cognescenti]

Hey...when y'all take over Europe, please don't add any minarettes to St. Paul's or Notre Dame or Chartres...strictly from an aesthetic standpoint, you understand.

 

[Chiteng]

Re: Islam could become Europes dominant religion

Yeah iam so proud of democracy and the uncurrupted guvernments of the west. And and and Iraq oh the joy.

You overlook that it SHOULD be bad for Islamics in the UK.

ANY religion, that thinks it is special, and deserves special treatment,
should be invited to leave.

NO religion, is any better, than any other. THAT, is Democracy.

Like those Islamic meat packers in the USA, that lost their jobs (they were
fired) because they insisted on stopping work, and praying, while the line is running. There are other workers available that DONT, do that.

 

[barney]

Europe nearly was Dominated by Islam. Marcel and Vlad the Impaler amongst others defeated them, so that eventually Islam only Conqured Spain, Byzantine including the Balkans, Rhodes and the Mediteranian islands. The attacks ground to a halt with growing European unity , ruthless counterattacks and and secularism bringing about military superiority.

With no chance now of defeating Europe by the sword or assault rifle, Islam can only become the dominat religion in Europe by Europeans accepting it.
Since Europe chucked Religion finally onto the scrapheap over the last few centuries and replaced it with rationalism and logic, It cant happen.

 

[Skywalker]

You overlook that it SHOULD be bad for Islamics in the UK.

ANY religion, that thinks it is special, and deserves special treatment,
should be invited to leave.

NO religion, is any better, than any other. THAT, is Democracy.

Like those Islamic meat packers in the USA, that lost their jobs (they were
fired) because they insisted on stopping work, and praying, while the line is running. There are other workers available that DONT, do that

First of all, what's, with, all, the, commas? Whew!

Secondly...you think us "Islamics" are the only one that think their religion is better than anyone elses? Look again. Christianity calls itself the best, Judaism calls itself the best, Baha'i calls itself the best, etc. It wouldn't be a religion of choice if it claimed to be inferior to all others.

Actually democracy is NOT denying superiority of a particular religion or what not, but letting the people decide for themselves what they want based on consensus. I don't see how the two are incompatible.

Lastly, it's wrong for them to halt production for prayer BUT if a large number of workers are Muslims, then the company should automatically give them a prayer break just like they give lunch breaks.

With no chance now of defeating Europe by the sword or assault rifle, Islam can only become the dominat religion in Europe by Europeans accepting it.

Maybe then you'll be convinced that Islam doesn't need weapons to spread

Since Europe chucked Religion finally onto the scrapheap over the last few centuries and replaced it with rationalism and logic, It cant happen.

You'd be surprised...especially since Islam is the pinnacle of rationalism and logic. That's why the Europeans feared us in the old days and launched their Crusades.

Hey...when y'all take over Europe, please don't add any minarettes to St. Paul's or Notre Dame or Chartres...strictly from an aesthetic standpoint, you understand.

C'mon dude, minarets are mad cool. I can just imagine Quasi Modo jumping around Notre Dame cathedral...only to slam facefirst into a newly-built minaret. ;D

 

[barney]

Whats with all the commars?

Maybe then you'll be convinced that Islam doesn't need weapons to spread


You'd be surprised...especially since Islam is the pinnacle of rationalism and logic. That's why the Europeans feared us in the old days and launched their Crusades.


C'mon dude, minarets are mad cool. I can just imagine Quasi Modo jumping around Notre Dame cathedral...only to slam facefirst into a newly-built minaret. ;D

1) It's ,World, commar, day,today.
2) It was spread by a combination of sword and treaty. Hopefully at some point the former part will stop.
3) I think our understandings of what makes up rationality and logic are crazily wildly far apart!
4) Doughnuts. replace all spires and minerets in the world with huge golden doughnuts that you can really really eat.

 

[Chiteng]

First of all, what's, with, all, the, commas? Whew!

Secondly...you think us "Islamics" are the only one that think their religion is better than anyone elses? Look again. Christianity calls itself the best, Judaism calls itself the best, Baha'i calls itself the best, etc. It wouldn't be a religion of choice if it claimed to be inferior to all others.

Actually democracy is NOT denying superiority of a particular religion or what not, but letting the people decide for themselves what they want based on consensus. I don't see how the two are incompatible.

Lastly, it's wrong for them to halt production for prayer BUT if a large number of workers are Muslims, then the company should automatically give them a prayer break just like they give lunch breaks.


;D

No they should NOT. The employers should do whatever they wish.
They own the company.
The employees can always decide to NOT work there.

 

[Skywalker]

1) It's ,World, commar, day,today.

In that case... HAPPY, COMMA, DAY, EVERYBODY! ,,,,,,,,,,

2) It was spread by a combination of sword and treaty. Hopefully at some point the former part will stop.

I think for the most part it has...because not many people use swords anymore ;D Seriously though, maybe you should do some research on how Islam reached the Far East.

3) I think our understandings of what makes up rationality and logic are crazily wildly far apart!

Perhaps...

4) Doughnuts. replace all spires and minerets in the world with huge golden doughnuts that you can really really eat.

You must be a cop.

No they should NOT. The employers should do whatever they wish.
They own the company.
The employees can always decide to NOT work there.

I meant that they 'should' out of sympathy and understanding, not that they must. Either way, for most 9 to 5 jobs, there's only one prayer to consided (the dhuhr), which could easily be prayed at lunch time...

 

[Encolpius]

Re: Islam could become Europes dominant religion

If you think it is bad in the UK now for Muslims, I can assure you it can get so much worse.

Absolutely. Look at how the Christian minority in Pakistan's treated. From what I've read of that, the word "apartheid" wouldn't go far amiss.

 

[SATalha]

Re: Islam could become Europes dominant religion

You overlook that it SHOULD be bad for Islamics in the UK.

ANY religion, that thinks it is special, and deserves special treatment,
should be invited to leave.

NO religion, is any better, than any other. THAT, is Democracy.

Like those Islamic meat packers in the USA, that lost their jobs (they were
fired) because they insisted on stopping work, and praying, while the line is running. There are other workers available that DONT, do that.

Dude iam not talking about the treatment of Muslims......iam talking about democracy that protects the idividual.....iam talking baout democracy that has a sneaky way in maintaining the poor people of the world in that status......iam talking about the democracy that stole and stole for centuries from a continent and left it shattered.......iam talking about the democracy that kills its own leaders to maintain certain ideologies.........iam talking about democracy that loves to mingle in anything that isnt democracy..........man you want men to continue!

 

[Darkseid]

LAHORE: As the Anglican Communion continues to fight over homosexuality and as church attendance plummets, experts say that Islam is well on its way to becoming the most dominant religion in Europe, according to an article posted on CNSNews.com. Meeting in London this week in their General Synod, leaders of the Church of England continued to debate the role of gay and lesbian priests. This follows another meeting in Tanzania in which Anglican bishops issued an official warning over the matter to the Episcopal Church – the American wing of the communion. Meanwhile, research studies show that church attendance in Britain is dropping precipitously, as well as across the whole of Western Europe. According to Christian Research, a British think tank, only 6.3 percent of the British population in 2005 attended Christian services on a weekly basis. But while church attendance on the continent reportedly shows a similar decline, the Muslim population has exploded, said the CNSNews.com article. It quoted experts as saying that in recent years, young European Muslims had been returning to the faith which their parents observed only sporadically, becoming much more devout. Christian Research said that in 35 years, there would be twice as many Muslims in mosques on Friday as there are Christians in churches on Sunday. Europe has seen a wave of Muslim immigration over the last century, and some experts predict they will become the dominant population by the end of this century. In January, a British government-sponsored think tank projected that Muslims would be the majority population of Germany by 2046. Brent Nelson, an expert on European Islam, told the Cybercast News Service that it was hard to guess what a Europe with a large Muslim minority would look like. However, he said that unless Christians and Muslims as a whole learned to compromise and live together, there was a danger of a clash between the two cultures. A professor of religious studies at Glasgow University said she thought increasing numbers of Christians would convert to Islam in the coming years.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...4-3-2007_pg1_3

Stop dreaming.

With Druze, Bahai'i faith, and Sihkism arising from Islam in much the same way Christianity arose from Judaism and Islam from Christianity, do you honestly expect that Islam will flourish in Europe?

The Europeans aren't likely to convert to Islam is much higher numbers than they will in athiesm. I am sorry but as the world becomes more educated in sciences and such, the likelihood of them turning towards Islam rather than athiesm is extremely likely.

So what do you expect?

Now you could emphasizing on immigration of muslims into Europe. And I could agree that 200 million muslims from India into Europe would definitely make Islam the major religionin Europe, but then you would loose what ever you had in India to Hinduism.

Then again you could seek to over-populate that way you don't lose India, but then that would kill off our already hurting food industry making people starve and eventually resort to cannibalism. We already nearly more than five billion above where we should be in terms of population mainly thanks to China, India, Japan, and certain other parts of the world.

To be honest it is a very naive opinion to believe in this sort of thing. How do you know that the Islam that is in Europe won't be taken over by another take over sect, like maybe Dudubabaism or something like that? And maybe Dudubabaism becomes the major religion in Albania, Turkish Thrace, Bulgaria, Malta and other areas of muslim areas of Southern Europe.

I believe that Islam will eventually die off along with christianity and Judaism.

People are starting to move away from these socially-fixed religions and starting to become the prophets of their own beliefs.

Eventually all there will be is Athiesm and Individual Faith.

People are moving away from Religious Socialism and starting to become individuals. Individuals before god and individuals before themselves. What is wrong with that?

 

[جوري]

Michel de Notredame has spoken everyone........let's all wait and see if those cryptic predictions come to be... Anyone else experiencing an episode of oscitancy?

 

[Uthman]

Greetings,

With Druze, Bahai'i faith, and Sihkism arising from Islam in much the same way Christianity arose from Judaism and Islam from Christianity, do you honestly expect that Islam will flourish in Europe?

As far as I'm aware, Islam is growing a lot faster that the other faiths you mentioned. Islam is already flourishing in Europe.

The Europeans aren't likely to convert to Islam is much higher numbers than they will in athiesm. I am sorry but as the world becomes more educated in sciences and such, the likelihood of them turning towards Islam rather than athiesm is extremely likely.

I think you meant to say unlikely? That's neither here nor there anyway. Atheism is not a religion.

Now you could emphasizing on immigration of muslims into Europe. And I could agree that 200 million muslims from India into Europe would definitely make Islam the major religion in Europe, but then you would loose what ever you in India to Hinduism.

Well yeah, but 200 million muslims emigrating from India to Europe is an unlikely possibility.

To be honest it is a very naive opinion to believe in this sort of thing. How do you know that the Islam that is in Europe won't be taken over by another take over sect, like maybe Dudubabaism or something like that? And maybe Dudubabaism becomes the major religion in Albania, Turkish Thrace, Bulgaria, Malta and other areas of muslim areas of Southern Europe.

All evidence points to the contrary.

I believe that Islam will eventually die off along with christianity and Judaism.

I don't.

People are starting to move away from these socially-fixed religions and starting to become the prophets of their own beliefs.

I don't understand what you mean by socially-fixed religions. Please explain what you mean by that.

Eventually all there will be is Athiesm and Individual Faith.

I don't believe that is all there will be.

People are moving away from Religious Socialism and starting to become individuals. Individuals before god and individuals before themselves. What is wrong with that?

People are already individuals. You seem to imply that people are not already believing what they want to believe. I don't think that is the case.

Regards

 

[Keltoi]

This is similar to the mindset of many Mexicans, legal and illegal, in the United States. Groups like La Raza believe that so many Mexicans will immigrate to the U.S. that Mexicans will become a solid majority in the southwestern states. I believe that is really the issue. I don't see mass conversion taking place. If Islam does become the "dominant" religion, it will be because of immigration and birth rate, not unlike the Mexican experience in the U.S.

 

[Uthman]

Greetings,

If Islam does become the "dominant" religion, it will be because of immigration and birth rate, not unlike the Mexican experience in the U.S.

I agree with that, although conversion would still also be a factor, however minor.

Regards

 

[Cognescenti]

Islam is no more likely to become the dominant religion of Europe than is a Martian landing in New Jersey.

There is already pushback. The immigration tap will (or has already) be turned off. Even those nations that pride themselves on welcoming the politically oppressed (Sweden, the Netherlands) are sick of it. The French are half-ready to elect Le Penn to return themselves to Gaulic glory. The Spaniards are tired of Muslims trying to say Islamic prayers at (now) Christian churches. the Germans are tired of the Turks. The Brits are tired of somebody trying to blow them up when they get on a public conveyance.

Conversion or reproductive fecundity are not going to be enough.

 

[Cognescenti]

BTW...if everyone in Europe wants to convert to Islam..fine by me. It would be hard on tourism in Southern France and the Greek Islands and Mallorca but they could go back to fishing for sardines or whatever they used to do.

 

[wilberhum]

Islam could become Europe’s dominant religion

These kind of statements always make me wonder.
If that happens, will it prove Islam is the one and only true religion?