Islam is the true religion

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Alaikumassalam,

Also Trumble, can you tell us about The Great Medicine?

Buddhists have catelogued in vast texts every possible wrongful mental association. What excellence that could cause in healing through exorcism! But if only they could correctly attribute such. What is the Buddhist regard for the New Testament verse that states: no exorcism can be done without Beelzebub! ??

Wasalam
 
I was fairly well aquainted with Hinduism and Jainism. I've learned a little about Sikhism since. "Santal", in the sense of a religion, I must confess I've never heard of, and as far as I am aware Shinto is essentially a form of animism?

I could explain why I rejected the first three individually (not to mention the monotheistic religions), but that would probably be unfair to them, and not achieve much. I accepted Buddhism simply because, out of all of them, it was the only one that made sense to me both intellectually and experientially. The Buddhist view of Reality is what I, as far as I can, perceive it to be. The view of the others, to varying degrees (there are significant similarities between all the Indian religions, not to mention Daoism), is not. That's all there is too it, really.

I wasn't "born" anything; both my parents were agnostic/atheist and still are.

my attention was drawn to this post I have quoted only because I have references to Jainism being a shaytans organised grouping, and there fore occult and so anti-Islamic

could anybody please correct me if that is wrong?

Also what struck me about this post is the clear evidence, which repeats itself consistently in English speaking countries, of a social status which is given equitable status to belief in the wrongly formed Christian Churches. If you can prove that you can earn money without a Christian identity, then you are allowed to explore Religions of "the east", within the mainstream occultists driven ideologies of "the west" which support mass consumerism etc. That is, if you reject the falsifications in Christian teaching, you are allowed to explore falsificiations of Hinduism in which it is denied that any Hindi believe in One God, or falisfications of the Buddhist Scriptures, in which the Animist aspect is removed, and in which the real convergences between Buddhism and Christianity are denied in favour of more modern false convergences. For example, it was all the fashion for a while to be Zen, and then the fashion changed. Now Tibetean Buddhists have worked very hard so that their variety of Buddism is that most fashionable variety of non-Christian belief which is enabled in "the west". The Hare Krishna's likewise, yet somewhat less credibly; though they have had considerable success in converting westerners into a bizarre variety of sort of Hindi Krishna worship.

The point I want to make is that I know that occultists are active in promoting specific belief systems as appropriate or not appropriate. They do such by enableing those which they want to exist within a financial income stream which they do not enable for other small Religious organisations.

We must question, why are some Religions sects of "the east" being enabled and others not being enabled. But most especially Why is it that those belief sects being enabled are those which conspire to sustain out dated God-head modes of worship, and those beliefs which are not being enabled are those which sustain clear belief in One God Allah.

The might of Islam is the only avenue by which the occultists actions can be overcome.

There is no reason, apart from occultist fiddling with the economy, why folk in "the west" whom are seeking answers, and want to know how the bigger picture of life and living all fits together, should not be going on a Hippy quest into Muslim countries as they now travel to India etc. There is no reason for full Hijab to be unfashionable, while the style of a Sari often enough is in vogue, except that the occultists seek to prevent Hijab, and Islam, and our belief in the eventual retribution in Allah of all such action.

wasalam
 
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This is incorrect only islam which our prophet taught to us is sacred to muslims today, anything else won't be valid.

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can someone please explain more on this?

i would like to know...so even it is a true christian or true jews....as a muslim we should not consider them valid?

can anyone please explain this to me?

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can someone please explain more on this?

i would like to know...so even it is a true christian or true jews....as a muslim we should not consider them valid?

can anyone please explain this to me?

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Believers, Jews, Christians and Sabaeans—all those who believe in God and the Last Day and do what is right—shall be rewarded by their Lord; they shall have nothing to fear or to regret.

what about this verse? :?

can anyone please explain to me.....
 
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can someone please explain more on this?

i would like to know...so even it is a true christian or true jews....as a muslim we should not consider them valid?

can anyone please explain this to me?

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:wasalamex


I think he mean's that the jews and christians were known as muslims in the past because they believed in the original scripture which was revealed to the prophets at their time [including Prophet Musa, Eesa and the rest (peace be upon them.)] and they worshipped Allaah.

But after the message was given to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) - it became everyones duty to obey him as the messenger of Allaah because the past books (like the torah, gospel etc.) became corrupted, so the Qur'an [speech of Allah] and Authentic Sunnah [prophetic way] are the only source of authentic guidance we have today. Even the christians believe that the bible isn't found in its original language today, so what they see is just a translation or maybe parts of it - however, the original scripture is lost.



Anyone who lives after the prophethood of Muhammad (peace be upon him) is part of his ummah and one of the questions the angels in the grave will ask is, who is your prophet? The person will have to answer that it is Muhammad (peace be upon him) [if the person was alive in the ummah of Muhammad (peace be upon him.)] They can't say Jesus/Eesa, or Musa, or Nuh (peace be upon them) etc. because these prophets only came for their nation, and Muhammad (peace be upon him) came for all of mankind as the final messenger.



Allaah Almighty knows best.



Is that what you meant sister?




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yeah i meant that...

so...that mean...only the past christians and jews (before prophet Muhammad (pbuh)) that islam consider valid.

other than that...is not valid? am i right?
 
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yeah i think so, this is what bro kadafi said:


You have to grasp that this verse does not refer those [mentioned in the verse] after the advent of the Prophet (Peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) but it refers to the Jews [before the advent of the Prophet] who held fast to the Torah and the Sunnah of Prophet Moses (Peace be upon him) until Isa ibn Maryam (Jesus, son of Mary) was sent. When Prophet Isa Ibn Maryam came, those who still adhered to the Torah and the Sunnah of Prophet Moses and did not follow Isa Ibn Maryam were destroyed. The Christians mentioned are the Christians who held fast to the Injeel (Gospel) and the laws of Isa Ibn Maryam (peace be upon him), they were the ones who believed him and there are deemed as believers. This continued until the arrival Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Anyone who had been following the previous laws ordained should drop it and follow the last Messenger sent to mankind.

The verse was canceled with the next ayaat [verse] as reported by ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him):

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islaam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.


I read verse 2.62 as referring to contemporaries of Muhammad (pbuh); there doesn't seem to be anything in the text to indicate it refers to people of past nations.

It does, the verb aamanoo means believed, it is used in the past tense. It's a perfect tense.

http://www.islamicboard.com/71452-post7.html
 
jazakallah khayr brother...

can you please tell me which verse is this?

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islaam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.
 
And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him and he will be one of the losers in the Hereafter.

(Quran, Surah aal Imraan [3:85])


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my attention was drawn to this post I have quoted only because I have references to Jainism being a shaytans organised grouping, and there fore occult and so anti-Islamic

could anybody please correct me if that is wrong?

Sorry, have only just spotted this. Of course it's wrong. Why on earth would Shaytan (even if there were such a being) organise a group which has such respect for all life that it makes the average Buddhist look bloodthirsty? And a thousand years before Islam, at that.

That is, if you reject the falsifications in Christian teaching, you are allowed to explore falsificiations of Hinduism in which it is denied that any Hindi believe in One God, or falisfications of the Buddhist Scriptures, in which the Animist aspect is removed, and in which the real convergences between Buddhism and Christianity are denied in favour of more modern false convergences. For example, it was all the fashion for a while to be Zen, and then the fashion changed. Now Tibetean Buddhists have worked very hard so that their variety of Buddism is that most fashionable variety of non-Christian belief which is enabled in "the west".

Do you actually have any evidence for any of this (i.e a source that can actually back it up with facts?)

Sticking with Buddhism (you are hopelessly wrong on Hinduism, too), what falsifications? Nobody has 'falsified' anything. And what, in terms of Buddhist and Christian comparative theology has been 'denied'? There has always been an element of animism in Tibetan Buddhism (although it is unwise to generalise, it is far from predominant in the largest school), which every Buddhist scholar and student is aware of. Tibetan Buddhists haven't worked "very hard" at anything (apart from there studies and practice, anyway), as you say the emphasis in the West has moved that way from Zen to some extent but that's because trends change, not because of some publicity campaign (unless you count the Dalai Lama's books). What is actually taught, as opposed to what appears in popular literature, is far closer to each other than you might think. Both are Buddhism.

The point I want to make is that I know that occultists are active in promoting specific belief systems as appropriate or not appropriate.

Again, how do you support that? It only makes sense if you classify all adherents of any Eastern tradition as one homogeneous group (of 'occultists' :rollseyes ) somehow picking between what traditions they teach - which is utter nonsense. Tibetan Buddhists teach Tibetan Buddhism, Zen masters teach Zen and no doubt Hare Krishna types teach their tradition of Hinduism. The first two, at least, have been doing so for a very long time. None of them switch from one to the other for convenience, although no doubt a few beginning students may in trying to find teh path that is right for them.

As a matter of interest, has it occured to you that one reason for the 'rise' of Tibetan Buddhism in the West might just be that so many Tibetan leaders (which, in terms of Tibet means religious), are now in exile from their country? Or was the Chinese invasion all part of the evil 'occultist' masterplan as well?

We must question, why are some Religions sects of "the east" being enabled and others not being enabled.

No, there is no need to ask that question. Again, your comments about 'enabling' are simply rubbish. Most of the traditions you refer to have been around for hundreds when not thousands of years. They have co-existed throughout that time, due to variations in belief, geography and cultural tradition. They still do.

But most especially Why is it that those belief sects being enabled are those which conspire to sustain out dated God-head modes of worship, and those beliefs which are not being enabled are those which sustain clear belief in One God Allah.

Sorry, but this is just paranoia on overdrive. I should maybe comment on "out-dated God-head modes of worship", as in my opinion the monotheistic tradition is just a simplication and anthromorphization of such traditions and in no way whatsoever an advance on them, but that's straying rather off topic. No Buddhist teachings, including the traditional and (probably) eldest ones, 'sustain clear belief in one God' as Creator - in Buddhist terms the actual concept is complete nonsense.

The might of Islam is the only avenue by which the occultists actions can be overcome.

You don't really believe this stuff, do you? :?

There is no reason, apart from occultist fiddling with the economy..

Maybe you thinking of the Bilderbergs? Or the Illuminati?! ;D
 
it would be nice if someone could change this topic to...

ISLAM AD DEEN....


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