Israel = Hitler and even worse

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I have two questions for you.
What is your definition of a win for Hezbollah? And, what is your definition of losing for Hezbollah?

answer my question first and then I'll answer yours.
Ok, sure.
Your question,
But let me ask you a question about your smart example you have provided us...
How long do you think this fighter can hold him self infront of the bigger and stronger fighter with a longer reach in this boxing ring?!? since he's stronger than the other fighter is done withen 40 minuets maximum.. and the stronger fighter will win for sure in no time.
This question really depends on the fighters in question. More importantly, their training, skill, stamina, and who the coach is in their corner. A fight like this can be won by the smaller more agile fighter, provided he can stay away from the bigger fighter - IF, the bigger fighter does not have the stamina and cardiovascular endurance to stay with the higher speed of the small fighter. If he does have the stamina, the little guy is in trouble. Or, if the bigger guy does have the speed and/or the skill, it could end up being lights out sooner or later for the little guy. There are advantages and disadvantages to big and small. It totally depends on the fighters in the fight, but the fight isn't over, until it's over.

So,
What is your definition of a win for Hezbollah? And, what is your definition of losing for Hezbollah?
 
I'm against zionists who discriminate Arabs and accept for them to be killed in cold blood like whats happening in Gaza and Lebanon.
This is a coincidence.
I'm against racist arabs and/or muslims who discriminate jews and accept for them to be killed in cold blood like whats happening in Israel.
 
This is a coincidence.
I'm against racist arabs and/or muslims who discriminate jews and accept for them to be killed in cold blood like whats happening in Israel.

Its not the Arabs who are occupying illegal lands..
its not the Arabs who are building more and more illegal settlements.
Israel is doing that

Though i dont expect you to be critical of anything Israel does or admit it even acted inappropriately throughout its history and in your view it is infallible ..I being true to my Islamic teachings that urges us to be just and tell the truth if it be against my brothers and sisters..do admit that Palestinian groups have comiitted acts that are UnIslamic and even UnChristian eg the suicide attacks, the the hijackings of airliners done by Christian Palestinians..all they wanted was their land liberated..is that too much to ask? ..i ask you.

waiting for your reply..lets not go around in circles..just answer my question with a simple 'yes' or a 'no' that will be appreciated.
 
did anyone watch that documentary on the history of Israel yesterday?

Hitler and zionist israelli's both think they're above the law
They both think there the chosen ones
they both think a certain land is theres
they both think they are superior to all others !!
 
i have seen and heard that before, so so many times..... i use to think that wasent true..... because of ww2, but they are the same and so are their agenda
 
Hitler and zionist israelli's both think they're above the law

Untrue. Please give me the resolutions with a link to the UN site proving Israel has not implemented or begun to implement law after a UN resolution which can be considered international law.

Lebonon on the other hand think they are above the law by not implementing resolution 1559 which calls for the immediate disarment of Hezbollah's armed wing. Lebonon is in violation of international law with each bullet Hezbollah fires in there territory.


They both think there the chosen ones

Come back when you understand Jewish law, and not an English interpretation of a Jewish song. PM me and I will give you a little Jewish info, and no the so called 'facts' you think you learn about Jews in your mosque or any Jew hating website.

they both think a certain land is theres

Since the Hamas charter calls for the slaying of all Jews in the Middle East it is kind of hard to make peace with an enemy that wants to kill you. Is it not?

they both think they are superior to all others !!

Actually we don't. The president of our Congress (the knesset) is Muslim and many high figures in Israels goverment are Muslims. Can you find a jew holding a high position in any Arab country? Of course not! Jews vote for Arabs in many elections because we view you as equals. I voted for an Arab to represent me in the congress! How many Arab states will you find that in?
 
Though i dont expect you to be critical of anything Israel does or admit it even acted inappropriately throughout its history and in your view it is infallible .
Actually, to tell the truth I am very critical of the way Israel has handled alot of things, but it is difficult to have a rational conversation when people are not willing to admit any wrongdoing on the otherside, it is promising to see you say as much as you have, it's a start.

..I being true to my Islamic teachings that urges us to be just and tell the truth if it be against my brothers and sisters..
I've got news for you sister, you don't need to be a muslim to know that you should be honest and tell the truth. Even athiests know this. People with a good moral upbringing will naturally tell the truth, without any religious reminders needed.

..do admit that Palestinian groups have comiitted acts that are UnIslamic and even UnChristian eg the suicide attacks, the the hijackings of airliners done by Christian Palestinians..all they wanted was their land liberated..is that too much to ask? ..i ask you.
Ah... and you were doing so well. Yet you have to throw in the excuse. I like the "christian" palestinan comment, LOL! Never a muslim, LOL!
Ok, your question. Land liberated..? Depends on which land you are talking about. The area know today by the world as palestine, fair enough, I agree. I would expect that is reasonable. The area know as Israel? Of course it is too much to ask.

(a simple yes or no cannot do for this kind of question, you know that)
 
Actually, to tell the truth I am very critical of the way Israel has handled alot of things, but it is difficult to have a rational conversation when people are not willing to admit any wrongdoing on the otherside, it is promising to see you say as much as you have, it's a start

The majority of the muslims here if not all are against sucide bombings..its nothing new ..maybe you need to keep your eyes peeled lot more often heh!.

I've got news for you sister, you don't need to be a muslim to know that you should be honest and tell the truth. Even athiests know this. People with a good moral upbringing will naturally tell the truth, without any religious reminders needed.

i believe many decent nonmuslims exist whether christians, jews, hindus even athiests and agnostics.

Ah... and you were doing so well. Yet you have to throw in the excuse. I like the "christian" palestinan comment, LOL! Never a muslim, LOL!

Excuse? where have i 'excused' anything? people talk about the muslims who are engaged in terrorist activities yet never talk about the christian palestinians who have also engaged in terrorist activities ..very convienient of them to do so...is that just and fair in your view? guess so.

I never EVER present this as a Palestinian Muslim struggle against the Zionists 15% of Palestinians are Christians yet support for them and their part in this struggle doesnt even exist amongst many christians...there are tons of evangelical chistians in America who donot even know Palestinian Christians exist they think all 'Ayrabs' are muslims...there needs to be a reeducation...its extremely frustrating and tiring when lone individuals like me have to take on this responsibility.

Ok, your question. Land liberated..? Depends on which land you are talking about. The area know today by the world as palestine, fair enough, I agree. I would expect that is reasonable. The area know as Israel? Of course it is too much to ask.

(a simple yes or no cannot do for this kind of question, you know that)

And i think I made my self crystal clear that Palestine includes West Bank and Gaza. Israel exists, God willing Palestine will be liberated...and the Jews Christians and Muslims will live in peace again..oops..said Christians again!
 
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Are any of you familiar of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem? He was around during 1948, and he tried to hide his past...





Upon al-Husayni's arrival in Europe, he met the German Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop on November 20, 1941 and was officially received by Adolf Hitler on November 28, 1941 in Berlin. He asked Hitler for a public declaration that "recognized and sympathized with the Arab struggles for independence and liberation, and that it would support the elimination of a national Jewish homeland". Earlier, al-Hussayni submitted to the German government a draft of such a declaration, containing a clause:

Germany and Italy recognize the right of the Arab countries to solve the question of the Jewish elements, which exist in Palestine and in the other Arab countries, as required by the national and ethnic (völkisch) interests of the Arabs, and as the Jewish question was solved in Germany and Italy.

Hitler refused to make such a public announcement, but "made the following declaration, requesting the Mufti to lock it deep in his heart:

He (the Führer) would carry on the fight until the last traces of the Jewish-Communist European hegemony had been obliterated.
In the course of this fight, the German army would - at a time that could not yet be specified, but in any case in the clearly foreseeable future - gain the southern exit of Caucasus.
As soon as this breakthrough was made, the Führer would offer the Arab world his personal assurance that the hour of liberation had struck. Thereafter, Germany's only remaining objective in the region would be limited to the Vernichtung des...Judentums ['destruction of the Jewish element', sometimes taken to be a euphemism for 'annihilation of the Jews'] living under British protection in Arab lands.." [3]
The Mufti established close contacts with Bosnian and Albanian Muslim leaders and spent the remainder of the war conducting the following activities:

  • Radio propaganda on behalf of Nazi Germany
  • Espionage and the fifth column activities in Muslim regions of Europe and the Middle East
  • Assisting with the formation of Muslim Waffen SS units in the Balkans
  • The formation of schools and training centers for Muslim imams and mullahs who would accompany the Muslim SS and Wehrmacht units.


The Mufti's knowledge about the holocaust while living in Nazi Germany has been debated with the Mufti himself denying any such knowledge after the war. Testimony presented at the Nuremberg trials, however, accused the Mufti of not only having knowledge about the holocaust but of also actively encouraging the initiation of extermination programs against European Jews. Adolf Eichmann`s deputy Dieter Wisliceny testified during his war crimes trial in 1946 that ... "The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan... He was one of Eichmann’s best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chambers of Auschwitz."

When the Red Cross offered to mediate with Adolf Eichmann in a trade prisoner-of-war exchange involving the freeing of German citizens in exchange for 5,000 Jewish children being sent from Poland to the Theresienstadt concentration camp, Husseini directly intervened with Himmler and the exchange was cancelled, although there is no evidence that his intervention prevented their rescue.[

Who are the Nazi's again?
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Beginning in 1943, al-Husayni was involved in the organization and recruitment of Bosnian Muslims into several divisions of the Waffen SS and other units. The largest was the 13th "Handschar" division of 21,065 men (sometimes spelled Hanjar: the word Scimitar in Turkish, Arabic Khanjar خنجر).

One of the SS's responsibilities was to run the Nazi death camps.

Sources of all the information.

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The Mufti of Jerusalem and Palestine Arab Politics, 1930-1937 (Outstanding These from the London School of Economics and Political Science) by Yehuda Taggar (Garland Pub, 1987, ISBN 0824019334)
Palestinian Leader, Hajj Amin Al-Husoyni, Mufti of Jerusalem (Kingston Press Series. Leaders, Politics, and Social Change in the Islamic World, No 5) by Taysir Jbara (Kingston Press, 1985, ISBN 0940670216)
The Mufti of Jerusalem: Amin el-Husseini, and his diplomatic activity during World War II, October 1941-July 1943 by Daniel Carpi Studies in Zionism, Vol VII (1983), pp101-131.
"Al-Husayni and Iraq's quest for independence, 1939-1941" by P. Mattar in Arab Studies Quarterly 6,4 (1984), 267-281.
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Mufti of Jerusalem: The Story of Haj Amin el Husseini by Moshe Pearlman (V Gollancz, 1947)
Days of our Years by Pierre van Paassen (Hillman-Curl, Inc., 1939, LC 39027058) pp. 363-373
Biographical Dictionary of the Extreme Right Since 1890 by Philip Rees (Macmillan Library Reference, 1991, ISBN 0130893013)
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Manchesterfolk can you give us a link to your article.

lets see where it came from :D
This is stuff I posted a thousand times here already. He used to do daily brodcasts from Berlin calling for the extermination of Jews. Goerbels used him a lot for propoganda.
 
This is stuff I posted a thousand times here already. He used to do daily brodcasts from Berlin calling for the extermination of Jews. Goerbels used him a lot for propoganda.

i saw your posts about him..but then again can you or ManchestorFolk care to tell me why he worked with native Palestinian jews??

Manchester id still like to have the link.
 
i saw your posts about him..but then again can you or ManchestorFolk care to tell me why he worked with native Palestinian jews??

Manchester id still like to have the link.
No he didn't he lead riots and violence against them:

On 19 April 1936, an Arab rebellion broke out in Palestine. Soon the rebellion had spread across the country, openly and officially led by the Mufti and his Arab Higher Committee, founded a week after the rebellion had started. The Committee, with the Mufti presiding, proclaimed an Arab general strike and called for nonpayment of taxes and shutting down municipal governments. In addition, the Committee demanded an end to Jewish immigration, a ban on land sales to Jews, and national independence. Jewish colonies, kibbutzim and quarters in towns, became the targets for Arab sniping, bombing, and other terrorist activities
 
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