Israeli car ad boasts run over of kids.... How sick can they get?

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Have you watched the video? The driver did not want to run over the kids. He accidentally ran over them because the kids ran towards his car. The driver is not at fault here.

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NO. I didn't watch the video , I never was , I never will be watching it , As it is not normal to be watching little kids to be run - over
I fear for my heart, Thank you for the offer
Okay then if it is not his fault , Is there something wrong with saying something perhaps like: I'm Sorry?

And why is this man driving in the Palestenian Lands anyway?

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We can voice our feelings regarding the evil acts committed by those specific people and those who support them, but when you start to use terms like "those Israelis" then you begin to build prejudice... Kind of the same way people generalize all Americans... Or even how people generalize all Muslims.)

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I guess this is directed me , Am I correct?
Thank you for the reminder , I almost forgot that I'm a generalizer.
But then I mean really Is it okay to keep making excuses in the name of not generalizing to people who don't even care if the crushed a child's body?
If this all isn't True , Then this is all just a waste of time, I wish we could all make sure the news is correct before we post it and make a thread about it.
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Well as crazy as it sounds, I would like to visit some of my Palestinian brothers one day. Spend some time with them, get to know them, etc. Inshallah, I will get a chance to do that one day.

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Insha'Allah one day you will visit them :)
And they will be happy to see you , and you will upload the photos you took with them for us to see in Islamic Board ( If it is allowed)
Isha'Allah it will happen , Just have hope
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If the Israelis really came out with that ad, then that's pretty terrible. But to me, it doesn't seem likely that that's the case...


Did you not read the previous posts?
What do you think is likely and what not? on what basis?

It doesn't seem likely too that a group of foreigners robbed your homes and lands and put you in a concentration camp and killed your babies while the rest of the world looked on and nodded and the powerful countries made you believe that you are the ones who are criminals.

But it happened.
 
Trust me, I feel for the Palestinians, and most people with a heartbeat feel for them too...


Not according to statistics. Unless you don't think most americans have heartbeat.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/126155/support-israel-near-record-high.aspxSupport for Israel in U.S. at 63%, Near Record High


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But like others have said, we can't just jump to the defense of every single Palestinian regardless of what they do, and we can't just attack every Israeli Jew simply because they're an Israeli Jew.

Agreed. Many orthodox jews are actually against zionism.

And as far as I know, at least in this thread, we are not vilifying Israeli jews, we were discussing how Subaru Israel put up the advertisement featuring palestinian kids run over by Israeli driving subaru car.
 
We were not discussing the incident per se, we were discussing how Subaru Israel put an ad featuring palestinian kids run over by an Israeli in a Subaru car and saying it's a good thing.

You seem totally oblivious to the content of most recent contributions, not least your own. I thought we had established long ago that there wasn't the slightest bit of evidence 'Subaru Israel' had actually done any such thing?

I think we have also pretty much established that the driver was trying to avoid hurting anybody, not cause it, whether he happened to be an 'evil Zionist' or not. And, frankly, it is also totally obvious to anyone watching the video that the rock-throwing, if not the kid's over-enthusiam, was totally stage-managed for the benefit of all those people with cameras who mysteriously just happened to be hanging around a very ordinary and pretty unexciting street for no particular reason.
 
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You seem totally oblivious to the content of most recent contributions, not least your own. I thought we had established long ago that there wasn't the slightest bit of evidence 'Subaru Israel' had actually done any such thing?

Where did you establish that Subaru Israel had not done such thing?
Evidence?
 
Did you not read the previous posts?
What do you think is likely and what not? on what basis?

We were not discussing the incident per se, we were discussing how Subaru Israel put an ad featuring palestinian kids run over by an Israeli in a Subaru car and saying it's a good thing.

Where did you establish that Subaru Israel had not done such thing?
Evidence?

I'm pretty sure it's you who hasn't been following the recent posts in the thread... o.o

Not according to statistics. Unless you don't think most americans have heartbeat.

I suppose it would have been more accurate to say that most people who are aware of the situation feel for them... And definitely most of the people I know. But that's neither here nor there, I was just trying to say that I sympathize with the Palestinians.
 
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I'm pretty sure it's you who hasn't been following the recent posts in the thread... o.o

So please point me to the posts which established Subaru Israel didn't have the advertisement.
 
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I think the Problem we are facing is that sometimes we tend to speak about our problems and usually disagree a lot, rather than actually putting something into action.
It would be good if we discussed how we can help our brothers and sisters in there as well.
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Here's ways to help our Palestinian brothers and sisters: http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/in...033&Itemid=175 http://www.palestineonlinestore.com/help.html http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8454730966 http://www.interpal.org.uk/ http://www.interpal.org.uk/index.php/en/donate http://www.palestinesolidarity.org/ I think sis Harb was also organizing teddy for Gaza which collects teddy bears and send them for Palestinian children.

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Thank you Jazak Allahu Khair , I will Insha'Allah check that out
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Where did you establish that Subaru Israel had not done such thing?
Evidence?

Try the first page, #6 in particular.

Exactly. Evidence.. or to be precise the total absence of it. The only place this photo can be found is where people are complaining about it. Try finding one picture of this 'ad' on a website, in a showroom, on a magazine cover, or on a billboard. There are none. Anywhere. The advertisment doesn't exist, and the picture purporting to be one didn't originate from Subaru Israel.

Of course, if you wish to contest the above it's easy - just point us to a photo of the 'ad' in situ. 'Evidence', as you say.
 
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I think sis Harb was also organizing teddy for Gaza which collects teddy bears and send them for Palestinian children.

I just found my name from here... yes, all teddies have already loaded to flotilla ships and hopely they too don´t face destiny to become illegally attack on international waters and kidnapped by zionists as teddies to kids in Gaza might be serious security risk to Israel.
 
Try the first page, #6 in particular. Exactly. Evidence.. or to be precise the total absence of it. The only place this photo can be found is where people are complaining about it. Try finding one picture of this 'ad' on a website, in a showroom, on a magazine cover, or on a billboard. There are none. Anywhere. The advertisment doesn't exist, and the picture purporting to be one didn't originate from Subaru Israel. Of course, if you wish to contest the above it's easy - just point us to a photo of the 'ad' in situ. 'Evidence', as you say.

LOL. The post #6 is actually your post, and only containing your opinion that Press TV made up the whole thing.
And Br, Ardianto in #9 and I in post #11 showed that your hatred and imagination about Press TV ran wild because Press TV actually sourced their news report from Xinhua News Agency, and Xinhua based it on direct interviews with The Palestinian National Authority (PNA), the Israel peace organization (Peace Now), the International Movement to Defend Children.
I suspect you only read your own posts, because in post #10, it is reported that Subaru denied any link to the commercial, which proved the commercial did exist. And if you read post #9 and #10 you would have known that the advertisement was published in Subaru Israel's Facebook page before being taken down.

You also claimed in your post #8 that you could not find earlier source than 21st April. Just typing a couple of words and a click showed that it is not true. Even AFP already published the news on the 20 April.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/af...ocId=CNG.5fb89b95abcd224c6226b73eed2e4566.141

I'd like reiterate again:
It is obvious that you show a lot of concern whenever some random Israeli entities are getting annoyed, but does not show any slightest concern whenever Palestinian babies are being killed by Israelis or whenever palestinians are evicted from their homes and their lands stolen.

What do you think those israelis reborn as in their next life?
Or some random buddhist who often prefer to side with the Israeli oppressors?


 
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I think sis Harb was also organizing teddy for Gaza which collects teddy bears and send them for Palestinian children.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Israeli government claimed that the teddy bears are a threat to their national security.

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NO. I didn't watch the video , I never was , I never will be watching it , As it is not normal to be watching little kids to be run - over
I fear for my heart, Thank you for the offer
Okay then if it is not his fault , Is there something wrong with saying something perhaps like: I'm Sorry?

The driver did not have time to say sorry because there were people still throwing stones. Besides, there is no need for the driver to say sorry. The kids should not be throwing stones at cars.

And why is this man driving in the Palestenian Lands anyway?

Your asking the wrong person.
 
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Insha'Allah one day you will visit them :)
And they will be happy to see you , and you will upload the photos you took with them for us to see in Islamic Board ( If it is allowed)
Isha'Allah it will happen , Just have hope
Salaam

Well as soon as I get myself out of debt, I do want to do a bit of traveling. Hopefully within the next 3-5 years I can pay off my debts.
 
LOL. The post #6 is actually your post, and only containing your opinion that Press TV made up the whole thing.
Of course it's my post. Your point is?

I certainly speculated that, yes.

And Br, Ardianto in #9 and I in post #11 showed that your hatred and imagination about Press TV ran wild because Press TV actually sourced their news report from Xinhua News Agency, and Xinhua based it on direct interviews with The Palestinian National Authority (PNA), the Israel peace organization (Peace Now), the International Movement to Defend Children.
Ardianto pointed out the reference to Xinhua, which I'm afraid I manage to miss. If you think that is indicitive of my "hatred and imagination about Press TV" so be it; I can only say that was not the case.

I suspect you only read your own posts, because in post #10, it is reported that Subaru denied any link to the commercial, which proved the commercial did exist.
It proved the photo being complained about existed, not that any 'commercial' did. Who ever claimed otherwise?

And if you read post #9 and #10 you would have known that the advertisement was published in Subaru Israel's Facebook page before being taken down.
It was reproduced there not 'published'. Nowhere does it say who by or in what context, being Facebook it could have been anybody. Do you not think advertisements would appear on their showroom site or on automobile related websites rather than (for some 'random' reason) Facebook? Get real. To quote, erm, yourself..

The Gulf News reported on its website on Friday that the advertisement had “resurfaced a few days ago on a Facebook page for the Subaru car company in Israel, with some words in Hebrew

'Resurfaced'? Where did it actually appear before? Again, is there the slightest bit of evidence that, outside of the press it ever did? Why have neither the Chinese or Iranian websites got any pictures of the commercial as a commercial? Why has nobody else? Are we really expected to believe that this phantom advertisement was somehow dug up by Subura Israel after all the fuss, a ' few words in Hebrew' added and then was plonked on Facebook for no obvious reason by themselves other than, presumably, to invite a major ear-bashing from Subaru in Japan?

I'd like reiterate again:
It is obvious that you show a lot of concern whenever some random Israeli entities are getting annoyed, but does not show any slightest concern whenever Palestinian babies are being killed by Israelis or whenever palestinians are evicted from their homes and their lands stolen.

I have merely pointed out that the advertisement is clearly fake. If you actually valued the Palestinian cause you would realize this sort of garbage does that case no good at all and fools nobody outside of it's totally uncritical and gullible intended audience (please see the thread on the Peace Flotilla for the other side of the coin). This thread is not about babies, or evictions, it is about that advertisement - a fact you pointed out yourself. You are the expert on 'hatred'; you really ought to be able to identify instances intended purely to whip it up.

Or some random buddhist who often prefer to side with the Israeli oppressors?
Actually, I don't 'side' with anybody. Unfortunately, as you do to the extent that any capacity for critical thought is flung away in a frenzy of 'evil Zionist' bashing I suspect you are psychologically incapable of recognising the fact. Moving on ...

Talking of reiteration;

Of course, if you wish to contest the above it's easy - just point us to a photo of the 'ad' in situ. 'Evidence', as you say.

You ignored that, of course, but I'm afraid it's time to put aside the blathering and move into 'put up or shut up' mode. Just one link to one photograph of this so-called commercial in a setting in which any reasonable person would expect to find a commercial is all that's needed. Evidence, please.

I would also be curious to hear your comments regarding my observation about the number of photographers present around the incident, something else you have chosen to ignore? And indeed why, as you are so concerned with 'hatred', there hasn't been a peep from you regarding something totally obvious in the video, that the 'evil Zionist' driver had no intention of 'running down' anybody and appeared to do everything possible to avoid it. Perhaps you might want to mull over which adults in that video would have been responsible had the boy been injured. The driver, or the four guys with cameras who just mysteriously happened to be there plus the assorted others that equally mysteriously appeared from nowhere to hussle the boy into a car.
 
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