Imagine that,a muslim taking a muslims side.Youre right.It isnt going anywhere.Its just shown me how blind all people are,except to their own narrow view.I dont claim to know for certain which religion is true or not.Theres way to much to consider and no one will really ever know.Even if they believe they do.People believe what they want to believe.Unfortunately with religion.God has left it up to reason to figure out which one is right.The problem is,everyone has different ways of coming to their conclusion.So its worthless in the end.
Isthe bible is wrong?.....
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Imagine that,a muslim taking a muslims side.Youre right.It isnt going anywhere.Its just shown me how blind all people are,except to their own narrow view.I dont claim to know for certain which religion is true or not.Theres way to much to consider and no one will really ever know.Even if they believe they do.People believe what they want to believe.Unfortunately with religion.God has left it up to reason to figure out which one is right.The problem is,everyone has different ways of coming to their conclusion.So its worthless in the end.
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Yea imagine that :rollseyes
All you've been doing is repeating yourself over and over even after she replied to you in several different ways, not to mention repeating the same misinformation. The only narrow view I see is yours, considering you keep clinging to the same drivel. How many answers do you want or are u just trying to toy with us?
More so with disbelief, it's no different.
Allah has sealed the hearts of those who are bent on nothing but to reject.
Surah Baqarah, verses 6 to 7
"As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them Whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe. Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur)."
You asked several questions, mind u trying to get past your grammar. They've been answered, take it or leave it!
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I'll make it easy for you: Islam is the right path.
Only worthless if you take the wrong path; many wrong paths and only one right: Islam.
I made it easy for you so don't reply back with something sarky.
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Maybe indeed on an islamic forum, you'll get the Muslim point of view?..
but I believe we have already presented you with what is unappealing about Christianity.. you say, we don't know what is god is capable of.. well for centuries folks brought god to a low common denominator that fit with their circumstantial psychology. I don't see how a man/god is different from the hindu elephant god..and you can't really comment on the Islamic view given you are very ignorant on its basic tenets.
The most basic christian tenet is accepting that jesus is god and he descended to eat our sins--What is the point of that? why work toward goodness at all if god ate your sins in advance, why would god assume shape at all in order to eat your sins? the human condition is limited, why would god descend, leave the cosmos behind choose inept individuals to disseminate his message and then die?
in fact you are right is should be left up to reason and I have already wrote you as much in my first or second post. Religion should satisfy three criteria!
The Mind, the heart and the soul as in fulfill that spiritual void -- Christianity fails on all three of those...
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Bro Quraan has been memorised and there is only one quraan , even after 1500 years , God revealed it in such a way that it is soo easy to memorise and each verse is like embedded in the next verse so that no one can ever change it , it would just not make any sense if any changes were made, plus God in Quran has openely challanged that if All of mankind and even the demons were to come together to bring a scripture like quran they will not be able to do so, not even a chapter. No one has been able to do so.
Quran clears out all the doubts , all the mistakes , and confirms that indeed bible and torah and other books were sent by God, Jesus was sent by God and he himself was made a miracle to the children of israel , God created him without a father , and he spoke in the cradle and all other miracles given to jesus , quran confirms them , We belive in All , in everything , every prophet , jacob , joseph , noah , david , solomon u Name it!! Quran gives detail of it all while on the other hand Christian world cannot come up with One true bible , Why?? coz it was not cared for and not saved , so we have liek a 50 bibles if im not mistaken , with difrent contents and even contradictions.
While quran is one , God saved it and it wil remain in the hearts and chestes of the memoriswers, little kids as young as 5 and 7 yrs have memorised it, All muslims are agreed upon the quran and no matter where u go , any mosque and group of muslim u will find the same quran with them , Which is the biggest proof of it being safe and free of any changes whatsoever, coz its One and the same all over the world, on the other hand we dont have that with the bible , each church has its own , WHICH ONE IS THE REAL ONE ?? HOW CAN ONE TELL AND KNOW THAT?? EVERYONE CLAIMS THAT HIS BIBLE IS THE TRUE BIBLE.
Cant u clearly see , on one hand u have one book with billions of folowers, unchanged , untampered with , and on the other hand u have all these bibkes with diffrent text , and contradictions .. its simple .. its obvious that the word Revealed by God was changed , tampered with and not saved by the folowers.
The christian doctrine The doctrine was introduced centuries after the supposed fact. It had to be developed, because it did not exist in the Bible to begin with. The Roman Emperor, an essentially pagan man, forced his opinion and followed his desire. By cutting the number of gods down to three, he may have thought that it would be more comforting to pagan Europeans rather than making the many gods into only one god. He did not develop the doctrine himself, so it seems. He forced it on the empire, because it appealed to his pagan origins and pagan subjects. Jesus was not his main concern, peace and harmony in his kingdom was.
Had there been texts from the Bible that answer the question of Trinity, do you think the empire would have needed councils to develop what is not developed? I am amazed at you. You agree to this basic fact, that the doctrine was developed in the 4th century. By doing so, you also agreed that before the 4th century, the doctrine was NOT developed. This is because it did not exist, as these encylopedias assert,
The New Encyclopedia Britannica: ‘Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deuteronomy 6:4).’
The Encyclopedia Americana: ‘Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person] ... Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.’
The New Catholic Encyclopedia: ‘The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century...Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.’
Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics: ‘In the New Testament we do not find the doctrine of the Trinity in anything like its developed form, not even in the Pauline and Johannine theology.’
Encyclopedia International: ‘The doctrine of the Trinity did not form part of the apostles’ preaching, as this is reported in the New Testament.’
Dictionary of the Bible: ‘The belief as so defined was reached only in the 4th and 5th centuries AD and hence is not explicitly and formally a biblical belief.’
The Oxford Companion to the Bible: ‘...the developed concept of three coequal partners in the Godhead found in later creedal formulations cannot be clearly detected within the confines of the canon ... no New Testament writer expounds on the relationship among the three in the detail that later Christian writers do.’
Here is an article by Jalal Abulrub , he is answring an arab christian
I thank you for your email and hope that this discussion brings about benefit.
First: All thanks to Allah, I am well versed in the Bible, in Arabic and English, and have read and studied it since I was young. I am also well acquainted with the major Christian sects, including the Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, Coptics, Maronites, etc. I lived in Egypt and used to hear Coptic leaders speak in their religious ceremonies, including the church’s leader Shunoda, and frequently listened to and witnessed Coptic religious gatherings and prayers. I also translated two books on Christian dogmas and major Christian sects detailing their history and the major differences between them.
Second: I read numerous articles and books discussing the claimed divinity of Jesus (Prophet Esa), peace be upon him. Yet, I still have a major problem regarding this topic. If you ask me what the core of my faith is, plain and simple and without interpretation, I will describe each major aspect of it with just one Ayah. Examples:
1. Who is Allah? {Allâh, your Lord! Lâ ilâha illa Huwa, the Creator of all things}; [6:102].
2. Who is Muhammad, peace be upon him, and what is his nature? {Muhammad is the Messenger of Allâh}; [48:29], whom Allah ordered to say, {“I am only a human being like you”}; [41:6].
3. Who is Esa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) and what is his nature? Allah said that Prophet Esa said, {“Verily, I am a slave of Allâh, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet”…It befits not Allâh that He should beget a son. Glorified be He}; [19:30 & 35].
4. Is trinity a valid creed? Allah ordered Prophet Muhammad, salla-llahu alaihi wa-sallam, to say this: {“He is Allâh, One. Allâh‑us‑Samad (Who sustains everything and stands in need of no one). He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none co‑equal or comparable unto Him”}; [112:1-4]. Or, you may refer to this Ayah where Allah said this about trinity, {Disbelievers are those who said: “Allâh is the third of the three.” But there is no Ilâh but One Ilâh. And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them}; [5:73].
Thus, Muslims can easily explain their Islamic Faith using clear, plain, unequivocal and un-interpreted evidence, one Ayah per each aspect. If you ask Jesus about his faith, the same faith described in the Old Testament, his answer is plain and clear, “The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord”; [Mark 12:29-30].
If one asks any Christian about the core of the faith that makes one Christian, one will not find a single biblical text quoting any prophet before Jesus, especially Nu`h (Noah), Ibrahim (Abraham), or Musa (Moses), or Prophet Esa (Jesus) himself that, without interpretation, affirms any part of the Christian dogma, such as: Jesus is divine; Jesus created the world; trinity is a valid creed; god has begotten or will beget a son; the Holy Ghost is the lord; Jesus demanded his worship; Jesus was sent to atone for the sins of mankind by his dying on the cross; Adam’s sin is inherited by every one among his offspring. No Christian can prove that Jesus ever said these words, “People! I created you; worship me; I am divine; god is one-in-three and three-in-one; you all inherited Adam’s sin; I came to die on the cross to atone for your sins; I am your lord and savior.” All what Christians can bring are statements by people who came after Jesus, who never met Jesus and who can never quote a single statement from Jesus –or any other prophet before him- affirming either partially or totally the creed they invented. All what Christians bring are interpretations of vague biblical texts, none of which is in its original form or language, and claims that these texts mean this or that, without clear evidence. No two Christian sects can ever agree on the details of any part of the Christian creed. Prophet Moses never heard of the Christian faith and has never preached it; Prophet Abraham never heard of the Christian faith and has never preached it; Prophet Jesus never heard of the Christian faith and has never preached it; Adam never heard of the Christian faith and has never preached it; the Torah never heard of the Christian faith and has never preached it. All what I hear from the Christians whom I debate on this core issue of their faith, is that they refer me to this article or that book that, they claim, prove Jesus’ divinity. And when I read this article and that book I find no clear, unequivocal evidence. Nothing! Just references to numerous biblical verses that are interpreted in a certain way to mean this or that, added to other biblical verses that are also interpreted to mean this or that, where the author concludes by proving Jesus’ divinity using this utterly vague evidence. Yet, even on these vague biblical texts that are interpreted at will to mean whatever various Christian sects wish them to mean, no two Christian sects totally agree on their meaning or on any other aspect of Christianity, including trinity and the nature of Jesus. Each Christian sect declares that theirs –and theirs alone- is the true Christian faith and the true interpretation of biblical texts. Christian Arabs do not even call Esa by his European name ‘Jesus’, but by his Arab [and true] name ‘`Esa’, or by another name they invented: ‘Yasu`; they do not use the word ‘god’ to describe the Creator, but the Creator’s true name ‘Allah’. Add to this another fact that no man can change: the Christians and Jews do not have access to the original books contained in the Bible in the original language they were written in. If the Christian creed is the creed to follow, why did not Jesus say so in the clearest of terms –and then safeguarded his statement from corruption- so that all of mankind be able to read and understand it without needing any interpretation? If Christians have even one statement from al-Maseeh (the Messiah) wherein he calls to his worship or affirms trinity, they would have made this statement apparent for all of mankind to read and see. This is the core of the Christian faith. Christians should not need articles or books to prove it; only one verse is enough to prove each edict, just one clear verse.
Third: Surely, the Quran contains praise of Prophet Esa, alaihi as-salam. However, the Quran clearly describes Prophet Esa to be a human prophet, not divine, rejects trinity and refutes the worship of Jesus in the most-clear terms and denies that Allah has a son or a partner to Him in the lordship or the worship. The Quran also praises several prophets more than it praises Prophet Esa and mentions miracles they performed that are as unique and, in some instances, greater than the miracles that Prophet Esa (Jesus) performed, by Allah’s permission. The Quran praises Prophets Ibrahim (Abraham) and Musa (Moses), peace be upon them, more than it praises Prophet Esa (Jesus), peace be upon him. The Quran praises Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, more than it praises any other prophet and mentions some of the miracles he performed, by Allah’s permission, that are greater than the miracles Prophet Esa performed, by Allah’s permission. Example: the splitting of the moon witnessed by the Makkans and surrounding towns [as al-Bukhari reported]: {The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder}; [54:1]. Thus, the fact that the Quran praises Prophet Esa as he should be praised, peace be upon him, and mentions the unique miracles he performed, by Allah’s permission, do not support the Christian claim that Jesus was divine. For the Quran’s praise of Jesus to justify the Christian faith in his divinity, the Quran must clearly state that Jesus is divine, that Allah is one in trinity, that Jesus is Allah’s begotten son. The Quran rejects this false dogma in the clearest of terms and declares it as utter disbelief in Allah. The Quran also rejects the Christian idea of the ‘Original Sin’, {No burdened person (with sins) shall bear the burden (sins) of another}; [53:38].
Fourth: Muslims indeed have great passion for Islam, but not because they are naive or overcome by emotion. Rather, they are passionate about Islam because the Islamic Faith is the true faith; Muslims totally believe in Islam based on knowledge and evidence. Muslims are much more aware of Islam than most Christians are aware of Christianity. Muslims know much more about other religions than average Christians know about other religions. Muslims read the Quran every day in their life, as you –the questioner- very well know since you hear Quran recited aloud three times a day from the loudspeakers of the thousands of Masjids found in Cairo, let alone hearing it being recited while walking in the streets and riding buses, on the airwaves and during the nights of Ramadan. Muslims have access to innumerable scholarly books that explain every part of the Quran and Sunnah supported by clear evidence. Many Muslims are more learned about the Bible than the majority of common-folk Christians know about their own holy book: most practicing Christians only hear the parts of their Bible that their priests choose to recite to them during religious ceremonies. Christians do not recite every part of the Bible numerous times every month or even every year. In contrast, the Quran is found wherever Muslims go, especially in their hearts: hundreds of thousands of Muslims memorize the entire Quran by heart; hundreds of millions of Muslims memorize at least a part of it. Thus, Muslims know their Islam very well; they know their Quran and their Muhammad so well that they developed a passion for them that is unsurpassed in its depth: visit Muslims in China, Indonesia, India, Turkey, any Arab country, North or South America, Europe, or Australia and compare the copies of the Quran they have to each other and you will know they all are exactly the same. This is not only passion, but also scientific precision in its most beautiful form.
Fifth: Muslims do believe that the Quran abrogates the bible. However, I did not mention this issue at all in my previous correspondence nor was I going to mention it in our discussion, unless the topic is on the status of the Quran as compared to the Torah and the Injil, or on the corruption of the Bible and how we –Muslims- can prove it occurred. The Quran is Allah’s Last and Final Revelation; it abrogates earlier divine books and corrects the parts in them that were corrupted and changed. You may say, “I do not believe in the Quran, so how can you prove that the Quran is correct regarding the Bible being corrupted?” I may then mention at least one story of a prophet whose image was distorted in the Bible and compare it to the Quran’s version, which refutes the clear biblical lies about Allah’s Prophets and affirms their honor and obedience to Allah. I may also refer you to the numerous articles and books written by Christian authors stating that the Bible was changed and altered, or to the numerous biblical texts that clearly contradict each other. Example: the appearance and disappearance of this, a major Biblical verse and a foundation of Christianity, between the Standard and the KJV versions of the Bible, [KJV's 1 John 5:7], "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." Even the versions of the Bible that kept this verse almost intact translate it differently, especially the last part of it: "…and these three are one"; "…and the three agree as one"; "…and the three agree in one." I may also refer you to the fact that Bible scholars have always disagreed with each other regarding who wrote most of the books contained in the Bible and in which language and time-frame they were written. There is more evidence found in Christian writings to affirm the corruption of the Bible than one can read in a lifetime.
Sixth: The claim that there are distorted stories from the Bible found in the Quran is rather strange. Well, Muslims truly believe the complete opposite, that there are numerous distorted stories in the Bible written by unknown authors which the Quran corrects. I mean come on! Do you seriously think that you are a faithful believer while Prophet Sulaiman (Solomon) died as an idol worshipper? Do you want to convince me that you are more pure and clean than Prophet Lut (Lot), who not only got drunk, but also committed Zina (adultery) with his own daughters, who got pregnant and gave birth to sons with their own father? No Muslim will ever believe that he or she is more pure and clean that Prophet Lut or that he or she is faithful while Prophet Sulaiman died a disbeliever. And the Bible does not even mention if Lot asked his daughters who the father is. What is the moral lesson to gain from this biblical story? What moral values would you teach your daughter from what Prophet Lut is falsely accused of doing? Would you even allow your daughter to read this filthy story, let alone believe that it is the word of god? You desperately need the Quran to correct this manifest error, because the Quran was revealed to, among many other reasons, correct this massive slander against Allah’s Honorable Prophets; {Sulaimân did not disbelieve, but the Shayâtîn (devils) disbelieved}; [2:102]; {There was no other answer given by his people, except that they said: “Drive out the family of Lût from your city; verily, these are a people who want to be clean and pure”}; [27:56].
Seventh: As for the repetition in the Quran, the wisdom behind it is clear to those who read the Quran with care, as we will explain, Allah willing. There are numerous instances of repetition in the Bible, with clear variations among them, in addition to entire books that repeat the census of the Children of Israel counting their tribes, sub-tribes, families, children, cattle and everything that pertains to the Children of Israel. There is no benefit for mankind in these stories. Allah’s revealed Books are books of guidance, not records of censuses or a count of the sheep the Children of Israel had. Allah did create other men and women and did send prophets to other nations: {And (both) the Jews and the Christians say: “We are the children of Allâh and His loved ones.” Say: “Why then does He punish you for your sins?” Nay, you are but human beings of those He has created, He forgives whom He wills and He punishes whom He wills. And to Allâh belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them; and to Him is the return (of all). O, People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad) making (things) clear unto you}; [5:18-19]? And not only one, but four different Gospels narrate the same story of the same man, even though they contradict each other in many parts of these narratives that were written by unknown authors, as many Christian scholars admit. Thus, it seems bizarre that Christians forget all these facts about their holy book and criticize repeated stories in the Quran.
Every repetition in the Quran serves a beneficial purpose, either offering more details or specific moral values to learn. The Quran is also called ‘Adh-Dhikr’, which means, ‘The Reminder’. The reminder is repeated in various ways so that the moral value it teaches remains present and alive in the believer’s heart and mind. Every instance of repetition in the Quran uses the most eloquent Arabic speech and different ways to describe the same meaning. Thus, if this criticism comes from a non-Arab, I may attribute this to the fact that this person does not have a clue as to what he is talking about. Coming from an Arab, this criticism is not acceptable, especially when no example is being discussed.
Eighth: Just like the Bible, the Quran contains abrogation. If Christians mention this topic, they should immediately be asked this: what happened to the law god revealed to Moses, such as stoning the adulterer? Christians have done away with most of the Law of the Torah, which Prophet Jesus abided by. Thus, it amazes me that this topic is even mentioned; you do know the Arab saying, “Ramat-ni bi-da-iha wan-sallati”!
Example to Quranic abrogation: the Khamr (intoxicants). Allah allowed Muslims to continue drinking the Khamr in the early era of Islam, as they were heavy drinkers before Islam, but gradually prohibited it for them until it was completely outlawed. I am not confused about intoxicants, because more than 14 centuries before I was born and since the early era of Islam in Madinah, Khamr has been outlawed for every Muslim. Where is the confusion? You must have been reading claims of abrogation in the Quran that are not based on the Quran or Sunnah, the two resources of Islam. Various major scholars of Islam have discounted the correctness of many of these claims due to lack of evidence. So bring an example to an abrogation that confused you and we will discuss it, Allah willing.
Ninth: The concept of ‘personal god’ did not come from Allah; it is not found in the Bible either. Prophets Nu`h, Ibrahim, Musa and Esa did not speak of this concept. Yet, I want to ask you, since you said you read the Quran, what do you mean by saying that Allah is not the ‘personal god’? Have you not read in the Quran that Allah will forgive all sins if one sincerely repents from them, {So, glorify the Praises of your Lord, and ask His forgiveness. Verily, He is the One Who accepts the repentance and Who forgives}; [110:3]? Allah informed His creation that He is near to them by His knowledge and infinite forgiveness, {And when My slaves ask you (O, Muhammad) concerning Me, then I am indeed near (to them by My Knowledge). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me. So let them obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be led aright}; [2:186]. Allah informed His creation that they should never feel hopelessness in His Mercy, {Say: “O ‘Ibâdî (My slaves) who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allâh, verily, Allâh forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful}; [39:53]. Allah told His creation by the words of His Messenger, peace be upon him, that His Mercy has overcome His Anger; [al-Bukhari]. The doors to Allah’s forgiveness and mercy are always open to His creation, without intermediaries between Him and them; how more personal can the relationship between creation and Allah be?
In contrast, there is no denying that the god of the Bible is not the ‘personal god’ to the vast majority of Christians: they go to a sinner like them, a priest who cannot forgive his own sins, so that he forgives their sins for them. Instead, they should directly invoke Allah, without intermediaries, and only ask Him for forgiveness. The god of the Bible [i.e., the false image of god that the Bible propagates] is not a ‘personal god’; he cannot bear the thought of mankind gaining knowledge “And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever”; [Genesis 3:22].
In Islam, Allah is described as being jealous, but for an entirely different explanation. Allah is Ghayyur (protective, jealous) that He dislikes for His male and female slaves to dishonor themselves by committing adultery, so He outlawed adultery and fornication. Allah did not only grant men knowledge {He has taught man that which he knew not}; [96:5], but also ordered them to invoke Him for more knowledge, {Say: “My Lord! Increase me in knowledge”}; [20:114].
Tenth: The concept of Allah needing to come down to earth in the shape of a human to feel what humans feel is not a concept that the Torah of Musa, the Injil of Esa or the Quran of Muhammad speak of. It is another Christian invention that Jesus never uttered while living on this earth. In Islam, Allah is the All-Knowing, Who has perfect knowledge in the creation and all that pertains to them, {Should not He Who has created know? And He is the Most Kind and Courteous (to His slaves), All‑Aware (of everything)}; [67:14]; and, {I (Allah) know the Ghaib (Unseen) in the heavens and the earth, and I know what you reveal and what you have been concealing}; [2:33]; and, {With Him (Allah) are the keys of the Ghaib (all that is hidden), none knows them but He. And He knows whatever there is in the land and in the sea; not a leaf falls, but He knows it. There is not a grain in the darkness of the earth nor anything fresh or dry, but is written in a Clear Record}; [6:59]. The mere claim that Allah needs to come down to taste what man tastes demeans His perfect knowledge and describes Him with a shortcoming and a clear defect. Christians say that Jesus is all knowing, but apparently they do not believe in this false statement since they claim that he –being their lord and savior- needed to come down to earth in the shape of a human to live like a man, feel what humans feel and then be executed for their sins, which he did not commit. If Jesus is all knowing, the lord and savior as Christians claim, then, he does not need to come down in the shape of human to learn about what it feels to be human, because he already knows it. Add this to the fact that Christians claim that their lord and savior was spat on, humiliated, cursed and put to death on the cross by the hand of some of his creation; this is not glory but utter humiliation and disgrace. How can Jesus save anyone if he could not save his own self from death and humiliation? However, and as the Bible clearly states, Jesus had no idea that he was supposed to die on the cross so that the Christians can sin all they want; “And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”; [Matthew 27:46]. Of course, Jesus did not die on the cross; this is a fantasy created by Christians.
Islam describes Allah differently than the Bible. Allah is the Most Pure, free from defect. It does not befit the majesty of Allah that some Jewish disbelievers spit on Him and some Roman infidels crucify Him; glorified He is above His Throne, the All-Mighty, Owner of Honor and Power.
Eleventh: The concept of Allah ready to ‘smite us’, is simply not true. Those who read the Quran with care will read this wonderful description of Allah, {Is not He Who created the heavens and the earth, and sends down for you water (rain) from the sky, whereby We cause to grow wonderful gardens full of beauty and delight? It is not in your ability to cause the growth of their trees. Is there any ilâh (god) with Allâh? Nay, but they are a people who ascribe equals (to Him)! Is not He Who has made the earth as a fixed abode, and has placed rivers in its midst, and has placed firm mountains therein, and has set a barrier between the two seas (of salt and sweet water)? Is there any ilâh (god) with Allâh? Nay, but most of them know not! Is not He Who responds to the distressed one, when he calls on Him, and Who removes the evil, and makes you inheritors of the earth, generations after generations? Is there any ilâh (god) with Allâh? Little is that you remember! Is not He Who guides you in the darkness of the land and the sea, and Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy (rain)? Is there any ilâh (god) with Allâh? High Exalted be Allâh above all that they associate as partners (to Him)! Is not He Who originates creation, and shall thereafter repeat it, and Who provides for you from heaven and earth? Is there any ilâh (god) with Allâh? Say: “Bring forth your proofs, if you are truthful”}; [27:60-64]. Allah forgives the sins, including disbelief in Him if one repents from it in this life, {Allâh forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful}; [39:53]. Allah is the Merciful; He delays the punishment of disbelievers in Him if they still invoke Him for forgiveness, {And Allâh would not punish them while you (Muhammad) are amongst them, nor will He punish them while they seek (Allâh’s) forgiveness}; [8:33]. Allah describes Himself in the Quran, by saying, {And your Lord is Most Forgiving, Owner of mercy}; [18:58]; and, {Verily, Allâh is, for mankind, full of kindness, Most Merciful}; [22:65].
Therefore, if the topic is Allah’s Mercy as described in the Quran and how wide and encompassing it is, then, these are the Ayat to bring not the Ayat about punishing the disbelievers. If the topic is Allah’s punishment that He sends down on the disbelievers, then, there are Ayat that discuss this topic. It is not acceptable that one quotes parts of the Quran on treatment of disbelievers in Allah in the context of speaking about Allah’s Mercy and Forgiveness. I can do the same to the Bible.
According to Christians, Jesus is the lord of both the Old Testament and the New Testament. However, there is a drastic difference between the two ‘personalities’ or ‘manifestations’. The Bible describes the god of the Old Testament as being ever ready to smite those who defy him, ordering the extermination of entire cities, men, women, children and animals, “slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass”; [Samuel 15:3], and destroying entire cities because they committed the crime of sodomy; [Genesis 19]. The Old Testament describes god as a vengeful god: “To me belongeth vengeance”; [Deuteronomy 32:35]”. The reverts from the faith who say, “Let us go and serve other gods”, are treated like this, “Then shalt thou inquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth…Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.” [Deuteronomy 13:12-16]. The god of the Old Testament has reportedly destroyed an Ethiopian army consisting of one million-soldiers; they all perished in one day [Chronicles 14]. [I am merely describing what the Bible says here].
Then suddenly, a new personality emerges in the New Testament, a weak god who needs to eat, sleep and relieve the call of nature, who allows his creation to humiliate and crucify him. Christians celebrate describing this ‘personality’ as ‘the prince of peace’ who, it seems, has now acquired a drastically new vision of the world, man and suffering. Was it because he came down in the shape of a human, and thus, tasted how it feels to be human? The Christians who may offer such a false excuse will in fact be admitting that the Jesus of the Old Testament was ignorant in the nature of man and so bloodthirsty that he caused tremendous killing of men, women, children, ox, donkeys and sheep. On his part, the ‘prince of peace’ contradicted the Christian description of him, by saying, “Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword”; [Matthew 10:34].
Of course, all this is a false fantasy dreamt up by those who corrupted the Old Testament and the New Testament, inserting their own prejudices and opinions. To correct all these erroneous descriptions of Allah, mankind needs the Quran, which describes Allah as He should be described, and He is the All-Mighty, Most Merciful.
It seems that you heard of the fact that knowledgeable Muslims always feel hope in Allah and fear from His Might in their hearts. However, you only mentioned a half of this Islamic creed, especially as demonstrated by the next segment.
Twelfth: Who are these Muslims who fear both practicing and not-practicing Islam? It would be interesting to discover how they arrived at this utter nonsense.
Muslims worship Allah because He is the only deity worthy of worship, Who created and sustains everything, Who saves man from harm and grants him of every type of bounty and comfort. The best delight to Muslims is that they feel when they worship their Lord, invoke Him for all things good and righteous, especially residence in Paradise under the shade of His Throne, and seek refuge with Him from all types of harm and sin, especially from Hellfire. It simply pleases Muslims to please Allah, worship Him and humble themselves before Him. Muslims also strive hard not to sin, because this is an act of injustice to Allah, Who gave them everything, and also for fear of His Might, afraid that they might end up in Hell forever if they worship others besides Allah. You completely spoiled this honorable creed by making Muslims worship Allah because they are afraid of Him rather than because they hope in His Mercy, appreciate His endless favors on them and wish to enter His Paradise, {Those whom they call upon [like ‘Îsâ (Jesus) ‑ son of Maryam (Mary), ‘Uzair (Ezra), angel and others] desire (for themselves) means of access to their Lord (Allâh), as to which of them should be the nearest; and they hope for His Mercy and fear His Torment}; [17:57].
Thirteenth: The only true peace there is, is that achieved through the true worship of Allah, Alone without partners, and by fulfilling one’s duty to Him as much as possible, {It is those who believe (in the Oneness of Allâh and worship none but Him Alone) and confuse not their Belief with wrong (they do not worship others besides Allâh), for them (only) there is security and they are the guided}; [6:82]. This is the peace that extends from this life to the Hereafter, the peace that only true Muslims enjoy. How can you possibly dismiss this peace when you have not tasted it yet by saying, “La ilaha illa-llah, muhammadun rasulu-llah”?
In contrast, the Christians are in doubt of their faith. They differ bitterly on the very nature of the god they worship and on every other tenet of Christianity. They worship a man like them who never called on them to worship him. They are never quite sure where their creed came from, differing on the meaning and accuracy of every text, every book and every claimed author of every book contained in the Bible. They do not have unequivocal evidence to support any of the ideas they believe in. They only have interpretations on translations on vague texts written by unknown authors in an unknown language and time-frame. Thus, many Christians came to ask themselves this question: what if all this I believe in is based on nothing? Millions of Christians left Christianity and embraced other religions, mainly Islam. They include the best the Christian world has to offer: the educated; ex-practicing Christians; ex-priests; the un-educated –as people perceive them to be- who are truly brilliant since they recognize and embrace the truth (Islam); men and women; black and white; young and old.
In contrast, reverts from Islam are the worst ‘Muslims’ ever: those who never truly understood the religion or practiced it; the opportunists who seek money, immigration, fame, medicine, or education; the hypocrite and useless who will abandon Christianity to any other material opportunity that may present itself to them.
If you seek peace, then believe in Allah the way Prophets Abraham and Moses believed in Him; this is the true peace; this is Islam.
Fourteenth: The Christian concept of ‘god loving the creation’ has always intrigued me. I repeatedly ask Christians this simple question: according to the Christian scriptures, what fate awaits more than four-fifth of humanity who, today and for most of history, did not, do not and will not believe in Jesus as the lord as savior? When they die, will the Christian god love them enough to enter them into heaven even though they did not believe in his claimed son as their lord and savior, or in trinity, or any other Christian dogma? Where is the biblical text that answers these questions?
You have not read the Quran with care. Have you read this Ayah, {And We have sent you (O Muhammad) not but as a mercy for the ‘Âlamîn (all that exists)}; [21:107], or the many Ayat that describe Allah as, {the Most Merciful}? Allah’s care and mercy for mankind is evident in the fact that He sent to every nation a prophet to guide them to Allah and, ultimately, to Paradise. He is Patient and Merciful with disbelievers that if one repents to Him after decades of disbelief, He accepts the sincere repentance and forgives all sins. He is also patient with those who live in His Kingdom, enjoy the food and air He created for them yet thank someone else besides Him for these bounties: He sent Muhammad to them to guide them back to the worship of Allah, Alone, without partners. This is mercy in its utmost beauty.
Fifteenth: Muslims, just like Jews and Christians, have divided into sects; this is a defect that has no valid excuse. However, and in contrast to the Bible, the Quran clearly rejects sectarianism and ordains unity around the Quran and Sunnah, {And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allâh, and be not divided among yourselves}; [3:103]. Yet, all Muslim sects agree that Allah is One, Prophet Muhammad is the Messenger of Islam and Prophet Esa is not divine. Are there two Christian sects that agree with each other in the details of any major edict of the Christian religion?
Finally: Read the Quran with care; ask about what you do not understand of it; listen to it with an open heart. Then, whatever you decide is your choice and you alone will be responsible for it; sin is never inherited but is always acquired.
Thank you for listening and hope to hear from you soon Inshaallah- jalal Abu Al Rub
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VALIDITY OF BIBLE AS AN AUTHENTIC SOURCE
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Quran clears out all the doubts , all the mistakes , and confirms that indeed bible and torah and other books were sent by God, Jesus was sent by God and he himself was made a miracle to the children of israel , God created him without a father , and he spoke in the cradle and all other miracles given to jesus , quran confirms them , We belive in All , in everything , every prophet , jacob , joseph , noah , david , solomon u Name it!! Quran gives detail of it all while on the other hand Christian world cannot come up with One true bible , Why?? coz it was not cared for and not saved , so we have liek a 50 bibles if im not mistaken , with difrent contents and even contradictions.
While quran is one , God saved it and it wil remain in the hearts and chestes of the memoriswers, little kids as young as 5 and 7 yrs have memorised it, All muslims are agreed upon the quran and no matter where u go , any mosque and group of muslim u will find the same quran with them , Which is the biggest proof of it being safe and free of any changes whatsoever, coz its One and the same all over the world, on the other hand we dont have that with the bible , each church has its own , WHICH ONE IS THE REAL ONE ?? HOW CAN ONE TELL AND KNOW THAT?? EVERYONE CLAIMS THAT HIS BIBLE IS THE TRUE BIBLE.
Cant u clearly see , on one hand u have one book with billions of folowers, unchanged , untampered with , and on the other hand u have all these bibkes with diffrent text , and contradictions .. its simple .. its obvious that the word Revealed by God was changed , tampered with and not saved by the folowers.
The christian doctrine The doctrine was introduced centuries after the supposed fact. It had to be developed, because it did not exist in the Bible to begin with. The Roman Emperor, an essentially pagan man, forced his opinion and followed his desire. By cutting the number of gods down to three, he may have thought that it would be more comforting to pagan Europeans rather than making the many gods into only one god. He did not develop the doctrine himself, so it seems. He forced it on the empire, because it appealed to his pagan origins and pagan subjects. Jesus was not his main concern, peace and harmony in his kingdom was.
Had there been texts from the Bible that answer the question of Trinity, do you think the empire would have needed councils to develop what is not developed? I am amazed at you. You agree to this basic fact, that the doctrine was developed in the 4th century. By doing so, you also agreed that before the 4th century, the doctrine was NOT developed. This is because it did not exist, as these encylopedias assert,
The New Encyclopedia Britannica: ‘Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deuteronomy 6:4).’
The Encyclopedia Americana: ‘Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person] ... Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.’
The New Catholic Encyclopedia: ‘The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century...Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.’
Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics: ‘In the New Testament we do not find the doctrine of the Trinity in anything like its developed form, not even in the Pauline and Johannine theology.’
Encyclopedia International: ‘The doctrine of the Trinity did not form part of the apostles’ preaching, as this is reported in the New Testament.’
Dictionary of the Bible: ‘The belief as so defined was reached only in the 4th and 5th centuries AD and hence is not explicitly and formally a biblical belief.’
The Oxford Companion to the Bible: ‘...the developed concept of three coequal partners in the Godhead found in later creedal formulations cannot be clearly detected within the confines of the canon ... no New Testament writer expounds on the relationship among the three in the detail that later Christian writers do.’
Here is an article by Jalal Abulrub , he is answring an arab christian
I thank you for your email and hope that this discussion brings about benefit.
First: All thanks to Allah, I am well versed in the Bible, in Arabic and English, and have read and studied it since I was young. I am also well acquainted with the major Christian sects, including the Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, Coptics, Maronites, etc. I lived in Egypt and used to hear Coptic leaders speak in their religious ceremonies, including the church’s leader Shunoda, and frequently listened to and witnessed Coptic religious gatherings and prayers. I also translated two books on Christian dogmas and major Christian sects detailing their history and the major differences between them.
Second: I read numerous articles and books discussing the claimed divinity of Jesus (Prophet Esa), peace be upon him. Yet, I still have a major problem regarding this topic. If you ask me what the core of my faith is, plain and simple and without interpretation, I will describe each major aspect of it with just one Ayah. Examples:
1. Who is Allah? {Allâh, your Lord! Lâ ilâha illa Huwa, the Creator of all things}; [6:102].
2. Who is Muhammad, peace be upon him, and what is his nature? {Muhammad is the Messenger of Allâh}; [48:29], whom Allah ordered to say, {“I am only a human being like you”}; [41:6].
3. Who is Esa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) and what is his nature? Allah said that Prophet Esa said, {“Verily, I am a slave of Allâh, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet”…It befits not Allâh that He should beget a son. Glorified be He}; [19:30 & 35].
4. Is trinity a valid creed? Allah ordered Prophet Muhammad, salla-llahu alaihi wa-sallam, to say this: {“He is Allâh, One. Allâh‑us‑Samad (Who sustains everything and stands in need of no one). He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none co‑equal or comparable unto Him”}; [112:1-4]. Or, you may refer to this Ayah where Allah said this about trinity, {Disbelievers are those who said: “Allâh is the third of the three.” But there is no Ilâh but One Ilâh. And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them}; [5:73].
Thus, Muslims can easily explain their Islamic Faith using clear, plain, unequivocal and un-interpreted evidence, one Ayah per each aspect. If you ask Jesus about his faith, the same faith described in the Old Testament, his answer is plain and clear, “The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord”; [Mark 12:29-30].
If one asks any Christian about the core of the faith that makes one Christian, one will not find a single biblical text quoting any prophet before Jesus, especially Nu`h (Noah), Ibrahim (Abraham), or Musa (Moses), or Prophet Esa (Jesus) himself that, without interpretation, affirms any part of the Christian dogma, such as: Jesus is divine; Jesus created the world; trinity is a valid creed; god has begotten or will beget a son; the Holy Ghost is the lord; Jesus demanded his worship; Jesus was sent to atone for the sins of mankind by his dying on the cross; Adam’s sin is inherited by every one among his offspring. No Christian can prove that Jesus ever said these words, “People! I created you; worship me; I am divine; god is one-in-three and three-in-one; you all inherited Adam’s sin; I came to die on the cross to atone for your sins; I am your lord and savior.” All what Christians can bring are statements by people who came after Jesus, who never met Jesus and who can never quote a single statement from Jesus –or any other prophet before him- affirming either partially or totally the creed they invented. All what Christians bring are interpretations of vague biblical texts, none of which is in its original form or language, and claims that these texts mean this or that, without clear evidence. No two Christian sects can ever agree on the details of any part of the Christian creed. Prophet Moses never heard of the Christian faith and has never preached it; Prophet Abraham never heard of the Christian faith and has never preached it; Prophet Jesus never heard of the Christian faith and has never preached it; Adam never heard of the Christian faith and has never preached it; the Torah never heard of the Christian faith and has never preached it. All what I hear from the Christians whom I debate on this core issue of their faith, is that they refer me to this article or that book that, they claim, prove Jesus’ divinity. And when I read this article and that book I find no clear, unequivocal evidence. Nothing! Just references to numerous biblical verses that are interpreted in a certain way to mean this or that, added to other biblical verses that are also interpreted to mean this or that, where the author concludes by proving Jesus’ divinity using this utterly vague evidence. Yet, even on these vague biblical texts that are interpreted at will to mean whatever various Christian sects wish them to mean, no two Christian sects totally agree on their meaning or on any other aspect of Christianity, including trinity and the nature of Jesus. Each Christian sect declares that theirs –and theirs alone- is the true Christian faith and the true interpretation of biblical texts. Christian Arabs do not even call Esa by his European name ‘Jesus’, but by his Arab [and true] name ‘`Esa’, or by another name they invented: ‘Yasu`; they do not use the word ‘god’ to describe the Creator, but the Creator’s true name ‘Allah’. Add to this another fact that no man can change: the Christians and Jews do not have access to the original books contained in the Bible in the original language they were written in. If the Christian creed is the creed to follow, why did not Jesus say so in the clearest of terms –and then safeguarded his statement from corruption- so that all of mankind be able to read and understand it without needing any interpretation? If Christians have even one statement from al-Maseeh (the Messiah) wherein he calls to his worship or affirms trinity, they would have made this statement apparent for all of mankind to read and see. This is the core of the Christian faith. Christians should not need articles or books to prove it; only one verse is enough to prove each edict, just one clear verse.
Third: Surely, the Quran contains praise of Prophet Esa, alaihi as-salam. However, the Quran clearly describes Prophet Esa to be a human prophet, not divine, rejects trinity and refutes the worship of Jesus in the most-clear terms and denies that Allah has a son or a partner to Him in the lordship or the worship. The Quran also praises several prophets more than it praises Prophet Esa and mentions miracles they performed that are as unique and, in some instances, greater than the miracles that Prophet Esa (Jesus) performed, by Allah’s permission. The Quran praises Prophets Ibrahim (Abraham) and Musa (Moses), peace be upon them, more than it praises Prophet Esa (Jesus), peace be upon him. The Quran praises Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, more than it praises any other prophet and mentions some of the miracles he performed, by Allah’s permission, that are greater than the miracles Prophet Esa performed, by Allah’s permission. Example: the splitting of the moon witnessed by the Makkans and surrounding towns [as al-Bukhari reported]: {The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder}; [54:1]. Thus, the fact that the Quran praises Prophet Esa as he should be praised, peace be upon him, and mentions the unique miracles he performed, by Allah’s permission, do not support the Christian claim that Jesus was divine. For the Quran’s praise of Jesus to justify the Christian faith in his divinity, the Quran must clearly state that Jesus is divine, that Allah is one in trinity, that Jesus is Allah’s begotten son. The Quran rejects this false dogma in the clearest of terms and declares it as utter disbelief in Allah. The Quran also rejects the Christian idea of the ‘Original Sin’, {No burdened person (with sins) shall bear the burden (sins) of another}; [53:38].
Fourth: Muslims indeed have great passion for Islam, but not because they are naive or overcome by emotion. Rather, they are passionate about Islam because the Islamic Faith is the true faith; Muslims totally believe in Islam based on knowledge and evidence. Muslims are much more aware of Islam than most Christians are aware of Christianity. Muslims know much more about other religions than average Christians know about other religions. Muslims read the Quran every day in their life, as you –the questioner- very well know since you hear Quran recited aloud three times a day from the loudspeakers of the thousands of Masjids found in Cairo, let alone hearing it being recited while walking in the streets and riding buses, on the airwaves and during the nights of Ramadan. Muslims have access to innumerable scholarly books that explain every part of the Quran and Sunnah supported by clear evidence. Many Muslims are more learned about the Bible than the majority of common-folk Christians know about their own holy book: most practicing Christians only hear the parts of their Bible that their priests choose to recite to them during religious ceremonies. Christians do not recite every part of the Bible numerous times every month or even every year. In contrast, the Quran is found wherever Muslims go, especially in their hearts: hundreds of thousands of Muslims memorize the entire Quran by heart; hundreds of millions of Muslims memorize at least a part of it. Thus, Muslims know their Islam very well; they know their Quran and their Muhammad so well that they developed a passion for them that is unsurpassed in its depth: visit Muslims in China, Indonesia, India, Turkey, any Arab country, North or South America, Europe, or Australia and compare the copies of the Quran they have to each other and you will know they all are exactly the same. This is not only passion, but also scientific precision in its most beautiful form.
Fifth: Muslims do believe that the Quran abrogates the bible. However, I did not mention this issue at all in my previous correspondence nor was I going to mention it in our discussion, unless the topic is on the status of the Quran as compared to the Torah and the Injil, or on the corruption of the Bible and how we –Muslims- can prove it occurred. The Quran is Allah’s Last and Final Revelation; it abrogates earlier divine books and corrects the parts in them that were corrupted and changed. You may say, “I do not believe in the Quran, so how can you prove that the Quran is correct regarding the Bible being corrupted?” I may then mention at least one story of a prophet whose image was distorted in the Bible and compare it to the Quran’s version, which refutes the clear biblical lies about Allah’s Prophets and affirms their honor and obedience to Allah. I may also refer you to the numerous articles and books written by Christian authors stating that the Bible was changed and altered, or to the numerous biblical texts that clearly contradict each other. Example: the appearance and disappearance of this, a major Biblical verse and a foundation of Christianity, between the Standard and the KJV versions of the Bible, [KJV's 1 John 5:7], "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." Even the versions of the Bible that kept this verse almost intact translate it differently, especially the last part of it: "…and these three are one"; "…and the three agree as one"; "…and the three agree in one." I may also refer you to the fact that Bible scholars have always disagreed with each other regarding who wrote most of the books contained in the Bible and in which language and time-frame they were written. There is more evidence found in Christian writings to affirm the corruption of the Bible than one can read in a lifetime.
Sixth: The claim that there are distorted stories from the Bible found in the Quran is rather strange. Well, Muslims truly believe the complete opposite, that there are numerous distorted stories in the Bible written by unknown authors which the Quran corrects. I mean come on! Do you seriously think that you are a faithful believer while Prophet Sulaiman (Solomon) died as an idol worshipper? Do you want to convince me that you are more pure and clean than Prophet Lut (Lot), who not only got drunk, but also committed Zina (adultery) with his own daughters, who got pregnant and gave birth to sons with their own father? No Muslim will ever believe that he or she is more pure and clean that Prophet Lut or that he or she is faithful while Prophet Sulaiman died a disbeliever. And the Bible does not even mention if Lot asked his daughters who the father is. What is the moral lesson to gain from this biblical story? What moral values would you teach your daughter from what Prophet Lut is falsely accused of doing? Would you even allow your daughter to read this filthy story, let alone believe that it is the word of god? You desperately need the Quran to correct this manifest error, because the Quran was revealed to, among many other reasons, correct this massive slander against Allah’s Honorable Prophets; {Sulaimân did not disbelieve, but the Shayâtîn (devils) disbelieved}; [2:102]; {There was no other answer given by his people, except that they said: “Drive out the family of Lût from your city; verily, these are a people who want to be clean and pure”}; [27:56].
Seventh: As for the repetition in the Quran, the wisdom behind it is clear to those who read the Quran with care, as we will explain, Allah willing. There are numerous instances of repetition in the Bible, with clear variations among them, in addition to entire books that repeat the census of the Children of Israel counting their tribes, sub-tribes, families, children, cattle and everything that pertains to the Children of Israel. There is no benefit for mankind in these stories. Allah’s revealed Books are books of guidance, not records of censuses or a count of the sheep the Children of Israel had. Allah did create other men and women and did send prophets to other nations: {And (both) the Jews and the Christians say: “We are the children of Allâh and His loved ones.” Say: “Why then does He punish you for your sins?” Nay, you are but human beings of those He has created, He forgives whom He wills and He punishes whom He wills. And to Allâh belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them; and to Him is the return (of all). O, People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad) making (things) clear unto you}; [5:18-19]? And not only one, but four different Gospels narrate the same story of the same man, even though they contradict each other in many parts of these narratives that were written by unknown authors, as many Christian scholars admit. Thus, it seems bizarre that Christians forget all these facts about their holy book and criticize repeated stories in the Quran.
Every repetition in the Quran serves a beneficial purpose, either offering more details or specific moral values to learn. The Quran is also called ‘Adh-Dhikr’, which means, ‘The Reminder’. The reminder is repeated in various ways so that the moral value it teaches remains present and alive in the believer’s heart and mind. Every instance of repetition in the Quran uses the most eloquent Arabic speech and different ways to describe the same meaning. Thus, if this criticism comes from a non-Arab, I may attribute this to the fact that this person does not have a clue as to what he is talking about. Coming from an Arab, this criticism is not acceptable, especially when no example is being discussed.
Eighth: Just like the Bible, the Quran contains abrogation. If Christians mention this topic, they should immediately be asked this: what happened to the law god revealed to Moses, such as stoning the adulterer? Christians have done away with most of the Law of the Torah, which Prophet Jesus abided by. Thus, it amazes me that this topic is even mentioned; you do know the Arab saying, “Ramat-ni bi-da-iha wan-sallati”!
Example to Quranic abrogation: the Khamr (intoxicants). Allah allowed Muslims to continue drinking the Khamr in the early era of Islam, as they were heavy drinkers before Islam, but gradually prohibited it for them until it was completely outlawed. I am not confused about intoxicants, because more than 14 centuries before I was born and since the early era of Islam in Madinah, Khamr has been outlawed for every Muslim. Where is the confusion? You must have been reading claims of abrogation in the Quran that are not based on the Quran or Sunnah, the two resources of Islam. Various major scholars of Islam have discounted the correctness of many of these claims due to lack of evidence. So bring an example to an abrogation that confused you and we will discuss it, Allah willing.
Ninth: The concept of ‘personal god’ did not come from Allah; it is not found in the Bible either. Prophets Nu`h, Ibrahim, Musa and Esa did not speak of this concept. Yet, I want to ask you, since you said you read the Quran, what do you mean by saying that Allah is not the ‘personal god’? Have you not read in the Quran that Allah will forgive all sins if one sincerely repents from them, {So, glorify the Praises of your Lord, and ask His forgiveness. Verily, He is the One Who accepts the repentance and Who forgives}; [110:3]? Allah informed His creation that He is near to them by His knowledge and infinite forgiveness, {And when My slaves ask you (O, Muhammad) concerning Me, then I am indeed near (to them by My Knowledge). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me. So let them obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be led aright}; [2:186]. Allah informed His creation that they should never feel hopelessness in His Mercy, {Say: “O ‘Ibâdî (My slaves) who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allâh, verily, Allâh forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful}; [39:53]. Allah told His creation by the words of His Messenger, peace be upon him, that His Mercy has overcome His Anger; [al-Bukhari]. The doors to Allah’s forgiveness and mercy are always open to His creation, without intermediaries between Him and them; how more personal can the relationship between creation and Allah be?
In contrast, there is no denying that the god of the Bible is not the ‘personal god’ to the vast majority of Christians: they go to a sinner like them, a priest who cannot forgive his own sins, so that he forgives their sins for them. Instead, they should directly invoke Allah, without intermediaries, and only ask Him for forgiveness. The god of the Bible [i.e., the false image of god that the Bible propagates] is not a ‘personal god’; he cannot bear the thought of mankind gaining knowledge “And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever”; [Genesis 3:22].
In Islam, Allah is described as being jealous, but for an entirely different explanation. Allah is Ghayyur (protective, jealous) that He dislikes for His male and female slaves to dishonor themselves by committing adultery, so He outlawed adultery and fornication. Allah did not only grant men knowledge {He has taught man that which he knew not}; [96:5], but also ordered them to invoke Him for more knowledge, {Say: “My Lord! Increase me in knowledge”}; [20:114].
Tenth: The concept of Allah needing to come down to earth in the shape of a human to feel what humans feel is not a concept that the Torah of Musa, the Injil of Esa or the Quran of Muhammad speak of. It is another Christian invention that Jesus never uttered while living on this earth. In Islam, Allah is the All-Knowing, Who has perfect knowledge in the creation and all that pertains to them, {Should not He Who has created know? And He is the Most Kind and Courteous (to His slaves), All‑Aware (of everything)}; [67:14]; and, {I (Allah) know the Ghaib (Unseen) in the heavens and the earth, and I know what you reveal and what you have been concealing}; [2:33]; and, {With Him (Allah) are the keys of the Ghaib (all that is hidden), none knows them but He. And He knows whatever there is in the land and in the sea; not a leaf falls, but He knows it. There is not a grain in the darkness of the earth nor anything fresh or dry, but is written in a Clear Record}; [6:59]. The mere claim that Allah needs to come down to taste what man tastes demeans His perfect knowledge and describes Him with a shortcoming and a clear defect. Christians say that Jesus is all knowing, but apparently they do not believe in this false statement since they claim that he –being their lord and savior- needed to come down to earth in the shape of a human to live like a man, feel what humans feel and then be executed for their sins, which he did not commit. If Jesus is all knowing, the lord and savior as Christians claim, then, he does not need to come down in the shape of human to learn about what it feels to be human, because he already knows it. Add this to the fact that Christians claim that their lord and savior was spat on, humiliated, cursed and put to death on the cross by the hand of some of his creation; this is not glory but utter humiliation and disgrace. How can Jesus save anyone if he could not save his own self from death and humiliation? However, and as the Bible clearly states, Jesus had no idea that he was supposed to die on the cross so that the Christians can sin all they want; “And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”; [Matthew 27:46]. Of course, Jesus did not die on the cross; this is a fantasy created by Christians.
Islam describes Allah differently than the Bible. Allah is the Most Pure, free from defect. It does not befit the majesty of Allah that some Jewish disbelievers spit on Him and some Roman infidels crucify Him; glorified He is above His Throne, the All-Mighty, Owner of Honor and Power.
Eleventh: The concept of Allah ready to ‘smite us’, is simply not true. Those who read the Quran with care will read this wonderful description of Allah, {Is not He Who created the heavens and the earth, and sends down for you water (rain) from the sky, whereby We cause to grow wonderful gardens full of beauty and delight? It is not in your ability to cause the growth of their trees. Is there any ilâh (god) with Allâh? Nay, but they are a people who ascribe equals (to Him)! Is not He Who has made the earth as a fixed abode, and has placed rivers in its midst, and has placed firm mountains therein, and has set a barrier between the two seas (of salt and sweet water)? Is there any ilâh (god) with Allâh? Nay, but most of them know not! Is not He Who responds to the distressed one, when he calls on Him, and Who removes the evil, and makes you inheritors of the earth, generations after generations? Is there any ilâh (god) with Allâh? Little is that you remember! Is not He Who guides you in the darkness of the land and the sea, and Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy (rain)? Is there any ilâh (god) with Allâh? High Exalted be Allâh above all that they associate as partners (to Him)! Is not He Who originates creation, and shall thereafter repeat it, and Who provides for you from heaven and earth? Is there any ilâh (god) with Allâh? Say: “Bring forth your proofs, if you are truthful”}; [27:60-64]. Allah forgives the sins, including disbelief in Him if one repents from it in this life, {Allâh forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful}; [39:53]. Allah is the Merciful; He delays the punishment of disbelievers in Him if they still invoke Him for forgiveness, {And Allâh would not punish them while you (Muhammad) are amongst them, nor will He punish them while they seek (Allâh’s) forgiveness}; [8:33]. Allah describes Himself in the Quran, by saying, {And your Lord is Most Forgiving, Owner of mercy}; [18:58]; and, {Verily, Allâh is, for mankind, full of kindness, Most Merciful}; [22:65].
Therefore, if the topic is Allah’s Mercy as described in the Quran and how wide and encompassing it is, then, these are the Ayat to bring not the Ayat about punishing the disbelievers. If the topic is Allah’s punishment that He sends down on the disbelievers, then, there are Ayat that discuss this topic. It is not acceptable that one quotes parts of the Quran on treatment of disbelievers in Allah in the context of speaking about Allah’s Mercy and Forgiveness. I can do the same to the Bible.
According to Christians, Jesus is the lord of both the Old Testament and the New Testament. However, there is a drastic difference between the two ‘personalities’ or ‘manifestations’. The Bible describes the god of the Old Testament as being ever ready to smite those who defy him, ordering the extermination of entire cities, men, women, children and animals, “slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass”; [Samuel 15:3], and destroying entire cities because they committed the crime of sodomy; [Genesis 19]. The Old Testament describes god as a vengeful god: “To me belongeth vengeance”; [Deuteronomy 32:35]”. The reverts from the faith who say, “Let us go and serve other gods”, are treated like this, “Then shalt thou inquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth…Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.” [Deuteronomy 13:12-16]. The god of the Old Testament has reportedly destroyed an Ethiopian army consisting of one million-soldiers; they all perished in one day [Chronicles 14]. [I am merely describing what the Bible says here].
Then suddenly, a new personality emerges in the New Testament, a weak god who needs to eat, sleep and relieve the call of nature, who allows his creation to humiliate and crucify him. Christians celebrate describing this ‘personality’ as ‘the prince of peace’ who, it seems, has now acquired a drastically new vision of the world, man and suffering. Was it because he came down in the shape of a human, and thus, tasted how it feels to be human? The Christians who may offer such a false excuse will in fact be admitting that the Jesus of the Old Testament was ignorant in the nature of man and so bloodthirsty that he caused tremendous killing of men, women, children, ox, donkeys and sheep. On his part, the ‘prince of peace’ contradicted the Christian description of him, by saying, “Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword”; [Matthew 10:34].
Of course, all this is a false fantasy dreamt up by those who corrupted the Old Testament and the New Testament, inserting their own prejudices and opinions. To correct all these erroneous descriptions of Allah, mankind needs the Quran, which describes Allah as He should be described, and He is the All-Mighty, Most Merciful.
It seems that you heard of the fact that knowledgeable Muslims always feel hope in Allah and fear from His Might in their hearts. However, you only mentioned a half of this Islamic creed, especially as demonstrated by the next segment.
Twelfth: Who are these Muslims who fear both practicing and not-practicing Islam? It would be interesting to discover how they arrived at this utter nonsense.
Muslims worship Allah because He is the only deity worthy of worship, Who created and sustains everything, Who saves man from harm and grants him of every type of bounty and comfort. The best delight to Muslims is that they feel when they worship their Lord, invoke Him for all things good and righteous, especially residence in Paradise under the shade of His Throne, and seek refuge with Him from all types of harm and sin, especially from Hellfire. It simply pleases Muslims to please Allah, worship Him and humble themselves before Him. Muslims also strive hard not to sin, because this is an act of injustice to Allah, Who gave them everything, and also for fear of His Might, afraid that they might end up in Hell forever if they worship others besides Allah. You completely spoiled this honorable creed by making Muslims worship Allah because they are afraid of Him rather than because they hope in His Mercy, appreciate His endless favors on them and wish to enter His Paradise, {Those whom they call upon [like ‘Îsâ (Jesus) ‑ son of Maryam (Mary), ‘Uzair (Ezra), angel and others] desire (for themselves) means of access to their Lord (Allâh), as to which of them should be the nearest; and they hope for His Mercy and fear His Torment}; [17:57].
Thirteenth: The only true peace there is, is that achieved through the true worship of Allah, Alone without partners, and by fulfilling one’s duty to Him as much as possible, {It is those who believe (in the Oneness of Allâh and worship none but Him Alone) and confuse not their Belief with wrong (they do not worship others besides Allâh), for them (only) there is security and they are the guided}; [6:82]. This is the peace that extends from this life to the Hereafter, the peace that only true Muslims enjoy. How can you possibly dismiss this peace when you have not tasted it yet by saying, “La ilaha illa-llah, muhammadun rasulu-llah”?
In contrast, the Christians are in doubt of their faith. They differ bitterly on the very nature of the god they worship and on every other tenet of Christianity. They worship a man like them who never called on them to worship him. They are never quite sure where their creed came from, differing on the meaning and accuracy of every text, every book and every claimed author of every book contained in the Bible. They do not have unequivocal evidence to support any of the ideas they believe in. They only have interpretations on translations on vague texts written by unknown authors in an unknown language and time-frame. Thus, many Christians came to ask themselves this question: what if all this I believe in is based on nothing? Millions of Christians left Christianity and embraced other religions, mainly Islam. They include the best the Christian world has to offer: the educated; ex-practicing Christians; ex-priests; the un-educated –as people perceive them to be- who are truly brilliant since they recognize and embrace the truth (Islam); men and women; black and white; young and old.
In contrast, reverts from Islam are the worst ‘Muslims’ ever: those who never truly understood the religion or practiced it; the opportunists who seek money, immigration, fame, medicine, or education; the hypocrite and useless who will abandon Christianity to any other material opportunity that may present itself to them.
If you seek peace, then believe in Allah the way Prophets Abraham and Moses believed in Him; this is the true peace; this is Islam.
Fourteenth: The Christian concept of ‘god loving the creation’ has always intrigued me. I repeatedly ask Christians this simple question: according to the Christian scriptures, what fate awaits more than four-fifth of humanity who, today and for most of history, did not, do not and will not believe in Jesus as the lord as savior? When they die, will the Christian god love them enough to enter them into heaven even though they did not believe in his claimed son as their lord and savior, or in trinity, or any other Christian dogma? Where is the biblical text that answers these questions?
You have not read the Quran with care. Have you read this Ayah, {And We have sent you (O Muhammad) not but as a mercy for the ‘Âlamîn (all that exists)}; [21:107], or the many Ayat that describe Allah as, {the Most Merciful}? Allah’s care and mercy for mankind is evident in the fact that He sent to every nation a prophet to guide them to Allah and, ultimately, to Paradise. He is Patient and Merciful with disbelievers that if one repents to Him after decades of disbelief, He accepts the sincere repentance and forgives all sins. He is also patient with those who live in His Kingdom, enjoy the food and air He created for them yet thank someone else besides Him for these bounties: He sent Muhammad to them to guide them back to the worship of Allah, Alone, without partners. This is mercy in its utmost beauty.
Fifteenth: Muslims, just like Jews and Christians, have divided into sects; this is a defect that has no valid excuse. However, and in contrast to the Bible, the Quran clearly rejects sectarianism and ordains unity around the Quran and Sunnah, {And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allâh, and be not divided among yourselves}; [3:103]. Yet, all Muslim sects agree that Allah is One, Prophet Muhammad is the Messenger of Islam and Prophet Esa is not divine. Are there two Christian sects that agree with each other in the details of any major edict of the Christian religion?
Finally: Read the Quran with care; ask about what you do not understand of it; listen to it with an open heart. Then, whatever you decide is your choice and you alone will be responsible for it; sin is never inherited but is always acquired.
Thank you for listening and hope to hear from you soon Inshaallah- jalal Abu Al Rub
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your question makes no sense! you are claiming all that you are about Jesus, in order to save your arse from the hellfire, which according to you, is not acceptable.
i can see why you are confused!
oh, and to answer your big question: is the bible wrong?
YES, it is!
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You want to know why God sent the bible, then couldn't keep it from being corrupted so had to send another book. First you should answer, why did God say one thing for centuries (about His being one, having no partners, never talking about Jesus being His son or the trinity, etc) and then all of a sudden with the coming of Jesus, God supposedly changed His mind (according to Christians) and told us about the trinity? How come Prophet Moses or David or Abraham (A.S) or any of the other Prophets never told the people about the trinity? Why did the trinity start with Jesus? An entity's nature doesn't change. Either God was always One or He was always three-in-one. It can't be that for centuries God is One and no one heard of a combination of God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost and with the coming of Jesus He became three-in-one. One of those beliefs must be wrong. both can't be true. Either all the prophets before Jesus had it wrong or the bible (NT) and the apostles like paul had it wrong. Which do you think is right? the Prophets and messengers before Jesus or the people after Jesus?
About why God didn't preserve the bible but preserved the Quraan: The reason is that He had the plan to send many prophets before Prophet Muhammad (SAW) so He didn't have to preserve their books. Every time a book was lost or corrupted, God sent another prophet with a new book - a great mercy of God on the people. But since Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was the last and final prophet and the Quraan is the final revelation, God preserved it (because no other book will be revealed after it).
You ask "What happens when someone else comes along and says that the Quran is incorrect and writes a third book?" Well, God says in the Quraan over and over, that if you think the Quraan isn't from God, then bring a book like it or a chapter or even a single verse like the verses of the Quraan. This challenge still stands - why don't you bring a book equal to the Quraan to show that the Quraan isn't from God. The fact is, there can never be another book equal to the Quraan. Every false religion and every false "holy book" will have faults that will show that it isn't from God. But the Quraan has no faults. It is the perfect Book which is proof that it is from God.
The Quraan is not based of the OT. There are similarities because it is from the same one God and because there were mistakes in the bible that God corrected through the Quraan.
Jesus didn't say he was God or God's son, as others have proven with examples from encyclopedias.
i suppose it may be that people after Jesuscouldn't contemplate that a woman could have a son without a father or that God wasn't capable of creating a fatherless child, so they had to give jesus a father. Do you think God isn't capable to create a child without a father?
As far as laws are concerned, humans need laws. This is why every country has laws and those who don't follow them are punished. No one says, love america and so don't commit crime, etc. It's always: don't commit crimes or else you will be punished. Since it's in human nature, God dealt with it in the same manner. Those who don't want to follow God's laws because of the love of God may follow them from fear of God's punishment, and there is nothing wrong with that. God is a great being. Fearing Him is one of His rights.
Still, muslims do try to please God and do good deeds for the pleasure & love of God as well as to save themselves from God's anger and punishment. And, as humans are not perfect, the warnings about punishment keeps them in check.
There are various verses in the Quraan that show that the righteous will be pleased with God and God will be pleased with them. The following specifically tells about the righteous doing good deeds for God's love, so it's not only the bible that talks about love, but the Quraan also.
As to the Righteous, they shall drink of a cup (of drink) mixed with kafur -
A fountain where the Devotees of Allah do drink, making it flow in unstinted abundance.
They perform (their vows) and they fear a Day whose evil flies far and wide.
And they feed, for the love of Allah, the indignant, the orphan, and the captive -
(Saying), "we feed you for the sake of Allah alone: No reward do we desire from you, nor thanks.
"We only fear a Day of distressful Wrath from the side of our Lord."
So Allah will deliver them from the evil of that Day, and will shed over them a Light of Beauty and a (blissful) Joy.
And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.
... See verses 5 to 22 of Surah 76, Al-Insaan (aka Al-Dahr)
Yes, the above verses do state that the righteous will fear the Day of Judgment, but that is only normal. Who, in their right mind, wouldn't fear the Day when God will be so angry at the evil-doers and when there is so much of a possibility that one can end up in Hell? If you believe in the Day of Judgment and Hell, you will fear too. and you will strive your best to do good deeds and stay away from bad deeds.
Finally, God wants the world to be a good place. Although He has given humans free choice, He doesn't want them to do evil and spread corruption in the land. This is why He repeatedly warns the people that if they disobey His laws, He will punish them. Love doesn't accomplish everything. Humans need love but they also need warnings of punishment.
I hope your questions have been answered.
About why God didn't preserve the bible but preserved the Quraan: The reason is that He had the plan to send many prophets before Prophet Muhammad (SAW) so He didn't have to preserve their books. Every time a book was lost or corrupted, God sent another prophet with a new book - a great mercy of God on the people. But since Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was the last and final prophet and the Quraan is the final revelation, God preserved it (because no other book will be revealed after it).
You ask "What happens when someone else comes along and says that the Quran is incorrect and writes a third book?" Well, God says in the Quraan over and over, that if you think the Quraan isn't from God, then bring a book like it or a chapter or even a single verse like the verses of the Quraan. This challenge still stands - why don't you bring a book equal to the Quraan to show that the Quraan isn't from God. The fact is, there can never be another book equal to the Quraan. Every false religion and every false "holy book" will have faults that will show that it isn't from God. But the Quraan has no faults. It is the perfect Book which is proof that it is from God.
The Quraan is not based of the OT. There are similarities because it is from the same one God and because there were mistakes in the bible that God corrected through the Quraan.
Jesus didn't say he was God or God's son, as others have proven with examples from encyclopedias.
i suppose it may be that people after Jesuscouldn't contemplate that a woman could have a son without a father or that God wasn't capable of creating a fatherless child, so they had to give jesus a father. Do you think God isn't capable to create a child without a father?
As far as laws are concerned, humans need laws. This is why every country has laws and those who don't follow them are punished. No one says, love america and so don't commit crime, etc. It's always: don't commit crimes or else you will be punished. Since it's in human nature, God dealt with it in the same manner. Those who don't want to follow God's laws because of the love of God may follow them from fear of God's punishment, and there is nothing wrong with that. God is a great being. Fearing Him is one of His rights.
Still, muslims do try to please God and do good deeds for the pleasure & love of God as well as to save themselves from God's anger and punishment. And, as humans are not perfect, the warnings about punishment keeps them in check.
There are various verses in the Quraan that show that the righteous will be pleased with God and God will be pleased with them. The following specifically tells about the righteous doing good deeds for God's love, so it's not only the bible that talks about love, but the Quraan also.
As to the Righteous, they shall drink of a cup (of drink) mixed with kafur -
A fountain where the Devotees of Allah do drink, making it flow in unstinted abundance.
They perform (their vows) and they fear a Day whose evil flies far and wide.
And they feed, for the love of Allah, the indignant, the orphan, and the captive -
(Saying), "we feed you for the sake of Allah alone: No reward do we desire from you, nor thanks.
"We only fear a Day of distressful Wrath from the side of our Lord."
So Allah will deliver them from the evil of that Day, and will shed over them a Light of Beauty and a (blissful) Joy.
And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.
... See verses 5 to 22 of Surah 76, Al-Insaan (aka Al-Dahr)
Yes, the above verses do state that the righteous will fear the Day of Judgment, but that is only normal. Who, in their right mind, wouldn't fear the Day when God will be so angry at the evil-doers and when there is so much of a possibility that one can end up in Hell? If you believe in the Day of Judgment and Hell, you will fear too. and you will strive your best to do good deeds and stay away from bad deeds.
Finally, God wants the world to be a good place. Although He has given humans free choice, He doesn't want them to do evil and spread corruption in the land. This is why He repeatedly warns the people that if they disobey His laws, He will punish them. Love doesn't accomplish everything. Humans need love but they also need warnings of punishment.
I hope your questions have been answered.
The bible is a book composed of the Gospel, Torah, Psalm, and also some other very old scriptures.
Basically all of these Books in their original correct form had come down from the same source from which the Holy Quraan is sent down. The Master is the same and that is Allah, the Creator of all and the Lord of the worlds. Therefore, in the basic faith revealed in all of these Heavenly Books there is no difference. Some differences in the laws and commands are found due to the difference in circumstances in which each Book was revealed and was applied and enforced by the corresponding Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be on him).
Now there are great differences between those books and the Holy Quraan. The reason is that those books are changed by the people. The Holy Quraan clears away those wrong statements which are added by the people and confirms the teachings of the original correct Books.
So in all these books including the Holy Quraan we find statements of love, mercy and extreme degree of kindness on the one hand and strict hard statements about punishment to the cruel unjust on the other hand.
Neither the Bible contains only love statements nor the Holy Quraan contains only harsh laws of justice. The examples to prove this are given below:
In the Quraan, Allah Subhaanahu wa Ta’ala said in Verse 177 of Surah Al-Baqarah (the Cow):
“It is not righteousness that you turn your faces towards East and West (in Prayer) but the righteousness is to believe in Allah and the Last Day, the Angels and the Book and the Prophets, to spend your wealth out of love for Him (for the sake of love for Allah) for kin, orphans, the needy, the wayfarer, to those who ask (beg) and for the ransom of slaves; to establish prayer (Salah) and pay the obligatory charity, to fulfil their promises (and contracts) which they have made and to be firm and patient in pain (or suffering) and adversity and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people Truthful and God-fearing.
And in the Bible is the statement of Jesus: “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I am come not to send peace but a sword. (Matthew X:34)
A universal truth and fact is that the innocent and oppressed people deserve love and mercy while the cruel ones deserve just punishment. And mankind always has these two kinds of people. So the Allah, the All Wise and Just Lord of the worlds, sent Prophets with the commands of love, mercy and help to the innocent oppressed people and the commands of just punishment to the cruel oppressors. Their love was never blind and the cruel couldn’t escape justice. Therefore in the reign of successful prophets alaihi salaam the world was full of peace, safety, and security.
Today the teachings of the Final Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho alaihi wasallam are put aside in Books – so the whole world is full of bloodshed. There is no help with the innocent oppressed ones and no justice against the cruel ones.
But the Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho alaihi wasallam has informed us about the Second coming of Jesus (Eisa Alaihi salaam). He will descend from the heaven in Syria and will help the oppressed innocent Muslims against the Jews. He will not accept jazya (war-tax) and will fight against the cruels until the world gets full of peace, safety, and security. He will follow the Holy Quraan in accordance with the Final Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho alaihi wasallam so he will not act as a new prophet. Rather he will follow the teachings of the Final Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho alaihi wasallam.
The truth is,that Muslims are unable to explain in the convincing way,why The Bible is false,because there`s simply no sensible explanation.The obvious truth is,that God can`t do something bad and without any sense,so every prophet who God sends to people,must be right-God simply has given different ways for different groups of people.Muslims say,that prophet Muhammad was the last prophet,and that`s why he is the only right.They don`t notice,that every prophet appeared in the different land.Why tit`s the time what decides? That can be the place equally well.
And they really should not mention religious wars,which are against Christianity anyway.Something what happened in 16-th century.Today`s Christians are not responsible for their ancestors.It would be amusing to say,that I`m responsible for something what my ancestor from 16-th century has done.So,I can`t apologize for this.Most of Muslims have never read The Bible and they don`t know what is written in it,but they judge the religion which they don`t know.
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is the Bible wrong? yes it is. 
. on many things, where to start. its wrong on God, its wrong on science, its wrong on morals, its wrong on standards, its wrong on logic, its wrong on history, its wrong in literature and consistent textual standards, yes, the Bible is wrong.
. on many things, where to start. its wrong on God, its wrong on science, its wrong on morals, its wrong on standards, its wrong on logic, its wrong on history, its wrong in literature and consistent textual standards, yes, the Bible is wrong.The_Prince
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true, your not responsible for bad ancestors, but many victims are victims because of your bible ancestors.
anti-semitism is thanks to the Christian Bible. the problems in Palestine are thanks to your Jewish Bible, which has installed this nazi like message amongst zionists that they are the chosen race and people of God, and the land is specially given to them, and all others must be thrown out, killed, or made to be slaves.
so yes, your not responsible for ancestors, but your ancestors from the Bible are responsible for all crimes whether it be back 500 years ago, or now in the present, as the roots are all from your Bible.
And Muslims are always innocent victims.They do absolutely nothing wrong,they are all saints,that`s what you want to say? Can you show me,where Jesus orders to kill somebody or to make him a slave? You will not find it,because he never did.You disgrace yourself by this your nazi-like speaking,that what you`ve just written,so I don`t need to add more.
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^^I hardly see who said anything Nazi like? You accuse yet you insult? Weird?
Nobody here said they are saints, so why u making stuff up?
Nobody here said they are saints, so why u making stuff up?
Matthew 10:34, Luke 22:36
I don't judge based on people, thats too easy (especially as a former southern baptist in the bible belt). I judge based on historical evidence and textual criticism.
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