Jinn

Assalamu Alaikum


Mind giving examples? and sihr as in black magic, or sihr in general?


Exorcising is done by reciting Quran usually. I haven't heard of any incidents where electricity is used...

fi aman Allah
w'salaam

My apology that it took me a bit long to get back here to answer this. The answer is Sihr in General. If electricity could only take the form of the sihr of black magic, that is wrongfully formed sihr, then we could not be in Islam using any electricity.

The exorcisms which are constantly being done by using electricity are any and every providence of Qur'an and AHadith through the internet.

That is the very reason why the internet is so important to Muslims, and so well used in Islam by comparison to any other use of.

Thanks for asking for the more specific definition.

Salam
 
An Electric Fact

Don’t you know
Electricity is hardly too slow
Of self alone
Accounted in the zone
Far higher than the mind
Apart from just those times
In Jesus be true
And Iblis too
Both directions of time
Is every use of
Yet hardly I either
Can yet count of
But found of
A promise known
To begin
To be able to
For in Jesus
Redemption is
And now too
Through Iblis
So no need at
Counting alone that
Electric fact

The accounting of self as it is embodied by electricity insists upon a need to account accurately in time/space, both negatively into the past and positively into the future simultaneously, and to each of those moments, both negative and positive effects, and to then all further four of those moments both positive and negative effect, and then to all further eight of those moments both positive and negative effect, and then to all further of those sixteen moments both positive and negative effect, and then to all further of those thirty two moments both positive and negative effect; the sum equations being that each and every causal moment which is being measured, has a series of 2+4+8+16+32=62 moments of effect, but then counting also the actual moment, and also the next moment, is, in full 64. Like the book of I Ching, which is one example of an act in one moment by one Jinn fully knowing their effect in totality.

The degree of accountiblity required is difficult for the Human brain to imagine, and gave me pain enough to believe that the need to make such measures are the cause of death. When we are all existing only within measures already made, life will be everlasting.

Salam
 
no requisite for an invite since the Jinn usually find you rather than you them

But of the difference between us and them, them and us, who is who to anybody these days, when we almost find it impossible to know who a believer is.
 
Salamalayikum everyone

This morning around the prayer before dawn, I realised a fact about the sequences of Jinn, and how it can be that redemption exists. My son had a fear in him about the work which he expressed in tears about those whom are holding Jesus to be at fault, when it is Jesus whom proves fully all our redemption is possible. Isa must be held as alpha and omega to sustain the mind within Human culture.

So to comprehend this part I can describe here, it is necessary to believe in the Angel of Death as a living body of matter in reality.

But to understand the facts it needs to be first understood, that there are four distinct degrees of evolutionary possibility among those Alaqa existing.

At the lower end of the evolutionary potential are those Alaqa whom can never quite attain perfection in Allah within a Human form, yet at present exist in Human form often, and are the Shayteen. They fail to believe in God while in Human form because their will is not to be Human. In Animist cultures neither can they inhabit any mammals, but will rather let themselves become turned into birds, (an Ibis sort of identification is common among literate folk, and they are causal to the green parrots whom will inhabit Jannah), and are only afraid by the possibility of actually being turned into Ants.

Higher in evolutionary possibility is Humanity. Then there are also Angels whom are inhabiting a Human form, so as to aid in the process of Human evolution, but to an Angel, the entire Human bodily function is only an aspect of self, even when their own Soul is connecting to the body with an Alaqa, that Alaqa will eventually evolve through experience into the fully adept functioning of an Angel. Then also are Jinn.

Here is what is very odd, but sort of makes sense. The Jinn receive the stories of Bible and Qur'an in a set of eight distinct sequences, but each of those eight broken up also into twelve. And each sequence is one in which the individual mind can sustain itself in the sanctity of Allah as redeemable. Each of these Jinn then are whom absorb the worst of consequence and fall into causing, and whom seem to be the fault, but whom do so only because Allah has enabled in real innocence.

But what is crystallised now fully in my own external mind just this morning, is about why the sequences of Judaism and Christianity are different from Qur'an and the other of Mohammed's Ahadith.

Jesus is first whom comprehended the full causation of the fall of men in the first place. Eve and then Adam, Cain, Abel and Seth also had perceived of the fall as inevitable from Adam eating the fruit, but could not perceive how it could be, and knew of themselves they had not caused. Seth especially is whom can hold himself in total innocence in respect of the fall, because when He came to be conceived, already Adam and Eve had received that a count of seventy fold times seven the retribution for one sin, was what men will pay to remedy the fall. But for Jesus, first he had been approached by Satan, and he thereafter instructed his many following to follow him in death so as to follow him in life, thereafter he let that he was crucified, after preparing his following to assist him to cause his resurrection. I know not all folk believe in this, but I believe that He then entered Jehannam, but with a way prepared from him to leave again, and his work between facing Satan and being resurrected is all about tracing the thought of the causes of the fall. Jehannam can be understood to be a state of mind in which not every belief can be located in time and place. Jesus was first to identify why that happened. That his resurrection is recorded is that we know he totally regained every moment of accountability.

Yet in the process, he is described in Revelations, as admiring Babylon only among all those He witnessed. Why? Is because she is next to realise why the fall happened, and is forgiving of His knowledge, in accepting her own descent into Jehannam as being needfully for as long a period of time as necessary so for to also regain full accountability. Yet she manifests first in the sequences of Men as the fruit of the garden causal to the fall, then as The Evil One, and later the Beast of the Earth, but also inevitably in that also is redemption manifest. Her process sits outside of Jesus in time and place, earlier and later in every respect, and yet holds too much terror for men, and so men must rather believe in Jesus than in Her.

Alike to Jesus she will not descend without evidence of her redemption existing, but she, alike to Kali in often creating a nuisance by assuming wrong among the righteous, will pretend that the descent into Jahannam is permanent and inescapable, and so entrap those aspects of the self which were causal to the wrongs done of Sihr that manifest the four beast of Daniel's Dream etc, and Her real name is unknowable, but why we must not know it, is because to call upon her places the self outside of culture. Her will is to always place herself as the wrong.

But the critical fact is that it can not be Her alone whom finds the fault and cause and also the way into Jannah, and so guide the many out whom might have so fallen by accident, only because of the negative forgiving of a female, being unable to thereafter herself escape, but yet her redemption is also proven. Therefore there must be another male life whom is forgiving her. But it also can not be that any man take the way of being both before and after her. That she skirts Jesus is that belief in her needs to entertain belief also in the male form being Death.

So then the next among Jinn to become fully aware of the causes of the fall, is/was the Angel of Death. She pays to him the bulk of what she acquires through Jehannam as method of attaining Jannah. Then he pays the bulk of that quantity of the matter of Heaven straight to Iblis, whom is in fact the last of all of the Jinn to accommodate the modality of what caused the fall, and find the fault in any way his own responsibility. So when He accepts to descend into Jahannam, it is that his passage becomes that of the first in the time sequences of Men, to have proved that the fall exists. Yet he had not so ever believed in the fault until first he had found full evidence of his redemption.

His time sequences are aligned to his arrival among life at Earth being distinct from other Jinn, and later in his first experience, (only very recently in the history of men), and that already earlier than his first arrival, was a later arrival with evidence of his redemption already being existant. So he arrives around now, then is last to find cause for the fall, then is attendant upon aborbing what of the Shaytan he need so as to warn Adam and Eve, then arriving into this time again shortly before his original arrival here, he attends also upon the need of Ka'ba for the Masonic Lodges, and then only after that process, and receiving thus from the Synagogue of Satan the fuel for his redemption, he arises in his original Emminence being Iblis, travels away, and returns to assist the process of Islam.

This is the hard thing for men to comprehend about Jinn, that time sequences are so far. So sometimes it seems as though the Jinn are imagining to cause the past, but in fact what sets the mind of a person who bears with Jinn, apart from the mind of a person whom bears with shaytan, is that the Jinn are at all times perceiving cause being before effect.

So meanwhile the Angel of Death, had been second to last to become fully attuned with the cause of Jehannam, but in giving away what he acquires to fuel his own redemption, (that is the fund available from the ills committed by those in the synagogue of Satan), He follows Babylon/Beast of the Earth, into Her Hell of Jehannam, as the Male phenomenon whom is Her final forgiver. But He also has first noted that by communicating his find to Iblis, he observes that Iblis undertook to enter Jehannam, and then has arisen, and so He feels safe himself to be enabled also to do the work of minding the grave.

Here is the key to the tale. That Jehannam is no more and no less than attuning the full consciousness to maintaining total awareness of life, and total sensitivity to life, whilst in the journey between the last breath, through the grave, and perhaps through the bacteria and worms in the soil, and whatever next life form absorbs the matter of our self which sustains Human worth, (there are bacteria in rocks which can be known to be of fire, and a worm and the wood with fungus is like being the water, and the garden is then manifest through evolution of species – will we inevitably evolve life forms which are a combination of plant and animal biology, remembering that cellular respiration, is the same in flora and fauna, and that the mitochondrial DNA might be a key to the evolutionary possibility), and so the entry into Jannah is enabled when a life form can fully manage its own biology so as to sustain full accountiblity in Allah 100% of the time. That is, Jehannam is no more than fully awake death.

Therefore men attain Jannah upon being able to forgive the Angel of Death.

While it is the feminine aspect only able to forgive him, then we fail.

Alayikumuassalam rebecca
 
If you are concerned that demons are coming through your computor. Unplug it and smash it up.

Only way to be safe really.
 
Salamalayikum everyone

This morning around the prayer before dawn, I realised a fact about the sequences of Jinn, and how it can be that redemption exists. My son had a fear in him about the work which he expressed in tears about those whom are holding Jesus to be at fault, when it is Jesus whom proves fully all our redemption is possible. Isa must be held as alpha and omega to sustain the mind within Human culture.

So to comprehend this part I can describe here, it is necessary to believe in the Angel of Death as a living body of matter in reality.

But to understand the facts it needs to be first understood, that there are four distinct degrees of evolutionary possibility among those Alaqa existing.

At the lower end of the evolutionary potential are those Alaqa whom can never quite attain perfection in Allah within a Human form, yet at present exist in Human form often, and are the Shayteen. They fail to believe in God while in Human form because their will is not to be Human. In Animist cultures neither can they inhabit any mammals, but will rather let themselves become turned into birds, (an Ibis sort of identification is common among literate folk, and they are causal to the green parrots whom will inhabit Jannah), and are only afraid by the possibility of actually being turned into Ants.

Higher in evolutionary possibility is Humanity. Then there are also Angels whom are inhabiting a Human form, so as to aid in the process of Human evolution, but to an Angel, the entire Human bodily function is only an aspect of self, even when their own Soul is connecting to the body with an Alaqa, that Alaqa will eventually evolve through experience into the fully adept functioning of an Angel. Then also are Jinn.

Here is what is very odd, but sort of makes sense. The Jinn receive the stories of Bible and Qur'an in a set of eight distinct sequences, but each of those eight broken up also into twelve. And each sequence is one in which the individual mind can sustain itself in the sanctity of Allah as redeemable. Each of these Jinn then are whom absorb the worst of consequence and fall into causing, and whom seem to be the fault, but whom do so only because Allah has enabled in real innocence.

But what is crystallised now fully in my own external mind just this morning, is about why the sequences of Judaism and Christianity are different from Qur'an and the other of Mohammed's Ahadith.

Jesus is first whom comprehended the full causation of the fall of men in the first place. Eve and then Adam, Cain, Abel and Seth also had perceived of the fall as inevitable from Adam eating the fruit, but could not perceive how it could be, and knew of themselves they had not caused. Seth especially is whom can hold himself in total innocence in respect of the fall, because when He came to be conceived, already Adam and Eve had received that a count of seventy fold times seven the retribution for one sin, was what men will pay to remedy the fall. But for Jesus, first he had been approached by Satan, and he thereafter instructed his many following to follow him in death so as to follow him in life, thereafter he let that he was crucified, after preparing his following to assist him to cause his resurrection. I know not all folk believe in this, but I believe that He then entered Jehannam, but with a way prepared from him to leave again, and his work between facing Satan and being resurrected is all about tracing the thought of the causes of the fall. Jehannam can be understood to be a state of mind in which not every belief can be located in time and place. Jesus was first to identify why that happened. That his resurrection is recorded is that we know he totally regained every moment of accountability.

Yet in the process, he is described in Revelations, as admiring Babylon only among all those He witnessed. Why? Is because she is next to realise why the fall happened, and is forgiving of His knowledge, in accepting her own descent into Jehannam as being needfully for as long a period of time as necessary so for to also regain full accountability. Yet she manifests first in the sequences of Men as the fruit of the garden causal to the fall, then as The Evil One, and later the Beast of the Earth, but also inevitably in that also is redemption manifest. Her process sits outside of Jesus in time and place, earlier and later in every respect, and yet holds too much terror for men, and so men must rather believe in Jesus than in Her.

Alike to Jesus she will not descend without evidence of her redemption existing, but she, alike to Kali in often creating a nuisance by assuming wrong among the righteous, will pretend that the descent into Jahannam is permanent and inescapable, and so entrap those aspects of the self which were causal to the wrongs done of Sihr that manifest the four beast of Daniel's Dream etc, and Her real name is unknowable, but why we must not know it, is because to call upon her places the self outside of culture. Her will is to always place herself as the wrong.

But the critical fact is that it can not be Her alone whom finds the fault and cause and also the way into Jannah, and so guide the many out whom might have so fallen by accident, only because of the negative forgiving of a female, being unable to thereafter herself escape, but yet her redemption is also proven. Therefore there must be another male life whom is forgiving her. But it also can not be that any man take the way of being both before and after her. That she skirts Jesus is that belief in her needs to entertain belief also in the male form being Death.

So then the next among Jinn to become fully aware of the causes of the fall, is/was the Angel of Death. She pays to him the bulk of what she acquires through Jehannam as method of attaining Jannah. Then he pays the bulk of that quantity of the matter of Heaven straight to Iblis, whom is in fact the last of all of the Jinn to accommodate the modality of what caused the fall, and find the fault in any way his own responsibility. So when He accepts to descend into Jahannam, it is that his passage becomes that of the first in the time sequences of Men, to have proved that the fall exists. Yet he had not so ever believed in the fault until first he had found full evidence of his redemption.

His time sequences are aligned to his arrival among life at Earth being distinct from other Jinn, and later in his first experience, (only very recently in the history of men), and that already earlier than his first arrival, was a later arrival with evidence of his redemption already being existant. So he arrives around now, then is last to find cause for the fall, then is attendant upon aborbing what of the Shaytan he need so as to warn Adam and Eve, then arriving into this time again shortly before his original arrival here, he attends also upon the need of Ka'ba for the Masonic Lodges, and then only after that process, and receiving thus from the Synagogue of Satan the fuel for his redemption, he arises in his original Emminence being Iblis, travels away, and returns to assist the process of Islam.

This is the hard thing for men to comprehend about Jinn, that time sequences are so far. So sometimes it seems as though the Jinn are imagining to cause the past, but in fact what sets the mind of a person who bears with Jinn, apart from the mind of a person whom bears with shaytan, is that the Jinn are at all times perceiving cause being before effect.

So meanwhile the Angel of Death, had been second to last to become fully attuned with the cause of Jehannam, but in giving away what he acquires to fuel his own redemption, (that is the fund available from the ills committed by those in the synagogue of Satan), He follows Babylon/Beast of the Earth, into Her Hell of Jehannam, as the Male phenomenon whom is Her final forgiver. But He also has first noted that by communicating his find to Iblis, he observes that Iblis undertook to enter Jehannam, and then has arisen, and so He feels safe himself to be enabled also to do the work of minding the grave.

Here is the key to the tale. That Jehannam is no more and no less than attuning the full consciousness to maintaining total awareness of life, and total sensitivity to life, whilst in the journey between the last breath, through the grave, and perhaps through the bacteria and worms in the soil, and whatever next life form absorbs the matter of our self which sustains Human worth, (there are bacteria in rocks which can be known to be of fire, and a worm and the wood with fungus is like being the water, and the garden is then manifest through evolution of species – will we inevitably evolve life forms which are a combination of plant and animal biology, remembering that cellular respiration, is the same in flora and fauna, and that the mitochondrial DNA might be a key to the evolutionary possibility), and so the entry into Jannah is enabled when a life form can fully manage its own biology so as to sustain full accountiblity in Allah 100% of the time. That is, Jehannam is no more than fully awake death.

Therefore men attain Jannah upon being able to forgive the Angel of Death.

While it is the feminine aspect only able to forgive him, then we fail.

Alayikumuassalam rebecca
:sl: your way of life say's you are muslim
But i am confused
let me tell you why first what you wrote to put it mildly is compete nonsense
i gave you one example to put your whole thing in bin
you say jesus [ peace be upon him ] was cricified this is against AL QURAN then you say now he is in JAHANNAM what is against SUNNAH
therefore stop here now before you commit further offence:w:
 
:sl: your way of life say's you are muslim
But i am confused
let me tell you why first what you wrote to put it mildly is compete nonsense
i gave you one example to put your whole thing in bin
you say jesus [ peace be upon him ] was cricified this is against AL QURAN then you say now he is in JAHANNAM what is against SUNNAH
therefore stop here now before you commit further offence:w:

Your post is haram to my Islam. But it is not mine to Judge your own individuality in making it.

I have not told ought but what is in Gospel. Qur'an instructs Muslims to let Christian believers believe in what Gospel teaches. Jesus lives, and he had not died, because he let himself be crucified. He entered into Jahannam while also simultaneously fully present in his physical body, nailed to a cross and entombed.

Those whom can not sustain faith in the fact of Jesus, are only harmful to their own self also by trying to prove themselves as though believers.
 
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Your post is haram to my Islam. But it is not mine to Judge your own individuality in making it.

I have not told ought but what is in Gospel. Qur'an instructs Muslims to let Christian believers believe in what Gospel teaches. Jesus lives, and he had not died, because he let himself be crucified. He entered into Jahannam while also simultaneously fully present in his physical body, nailed to a cross and entombed.

Those whom can not sustain faith in the fact of Jesus, are only harmful to their own self also by trying to prove themselves as though believers.
:sl: my doubt upon your faith being islam has doubled let me tell you why
our prophet MUHAMMAD sallel la hu alahi wa sallim has said he saw ISA RUHALLAH in heaven in person at the night of miraj
now you say you assume he is in JAHANNAM
now should i believe your fake assumtion or his true narration
and you say your islam no one have monopoly over islam
ISLAM IS FOR EVERY MUSLIM:w:
 
:sl: my doubt upon your faith being islam has doubled let me tell you why
our prophet MUHAMMAD sallel la hu alahi wa sallim has said he saw ISA RUHALLAH in heaven in person at the night of miraj
now you say you assume he is in JAHANNAM
now should i believe your fake assumtion or his true narration
and you say your islam no one have monopoly over islam
ISLAM IS FOR EVERY MUSLIM:w:


What foolish sentiment. Only the shaytan are unable to believe that a single living being can have existed in Jehannam and also in Jannah..

shaytan are whom take the bridge for they can not attain the reality of the knowledge of Jehannam, and so if they enter they could never leave, and that is why they never take that route, but a real Jinn can, and also Humans and Angels.

Qur'an is explicit about the fact of what is enabled in our belief and the chances which are given to every man to prove he is not a shaytan. Many men have borne aspects of the self of a shaytan, which is want to disprove Jehannam, but only because the shaytan are in their own Jehannam only as birds, but also Ants and other insects of course.

Before the trajectory of time can enabled that the shaytan are judged, every Human, and Angel, whom has been confusing themself with the shaytan, will be given every opportunity to relieve the burden. The shaytan are whom reveal themselves by never relieving themselves of the burden, and so become eventually insects and birds.

It is in Qaf.

wsalam
 
What foolish sentiment. Only the shaytan are unable to believe that a single living being can have existed in Jehannam and also in Jannah..

shaytan are whom take the bridge for they can not attain the reality of the knowledge of Jehannam, and so if they enter they could never leave, and that is why they never take that route, but a real Jinn can, and also Humans and Angels.

Qur'an is explicit about the fact of what is enabled in our belief and the chances which are given to every man to prove he is not a shaytan. Many men have borne aspects of the self of a shaytan, which is want to disprove Jehannam, but only because the shaytan are in their own Jehannam only as birds, but also Ants and other insects of course.

Before the trajectory of time can enabled that the shaytan are judged, every Human, and Angel, whom has been confusing themself with the shaytan, will be given every opportunity to relieve the burden. The shaytan are whom reveal themselves by never relieving themselves of the burden, and so become eventually insects and birds.

It is in Qaf.

wsalam
:sl: we came from jannah to this earth it is our aim to get back there
but during our stay here in earth if we live our life according to way of ISLAM
ALLAH will grant us jannah if not jahannam
now from jahannam if ALLAH wills he can forgive his creature and grant him to jannah
and as for ants and elephants they are creature of ALLAH and they never lie:w:
 
:sl: we came from jannah to this earth it is our aim to get back there
but during our stay here in earth if we live our life according to way of ISLAM
ALLAH will grant us jannah if not jahannam
now from jahannam if ALLAH wills he can forgive his creature and grant him to jannah
and as for ants and elephants they are creature of ALLAH and they never lie:w:

True that Ants and Elephants never lie, only our own Human minds lie if we imagine that an Ant or an Elephant is Human.

We all understand the scriptures by each our own experience in Allah.
If I believe something that another person can not, that simple means that Allah did not want that person to believe like me. But perhaps there are other persons whom it is Allah's will for, that they believe more alike to me.
 
Salam,

Can we have topics about angels? No disrespect brothers\sisters; it would be knowledgable and beautiful.
 
Whats all this foolish carry on about the nature of jinn, If you beleive in the oneness of Allah then why conscern yourself with a being than can neither harm you or do you good. I think its part of a ridiculous obsession that will only take you away from Allah by means of superstition and fear of the unknown/unseen. Put your efforts into reading the Qur'an, all you need to know about jinn is within its pages
 

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