Kendo | Sword fighting

[Serinity]

What use do swords have nowadays? They are nice / awesome, but a tank is much more powerful.

 

[Kiro]

I don't play... games...

Scimi

Could it be... you don't play games but you have game???

 

[Scimitar]

What use do swords have nowadays? They are nice / awesome, but a tank is much more powerful.

What use is a tank nowadays? I can do many things with a sword, like skewer kebabs (which is how the word Seekh kebab came about btw), I can peel fruits and veggies, I can use the hilt to hammer nails in, I can carve wood, etc... but a tank... only makes holes in walls...

A sword has many uses, a tank - only one.

Scimi

 

[Scimitar]

Could it be... you don't play games but you have game???

I know how to use swords, nunchukus and bo staff. Playing with me, hurts They refer to it as "Punishment"... I refer to it as "Discipline"

Scimi

 

[Kiro]

I know how to use swords, nunchukus and bo staff. Playing with me, hurts They refer to it as "Punishment"... I refer to it as "Discipline"

Scimi

Nunchunks seem cool but they sort of seem silly

 

[darkbro]

What use do swords have nowadays? They are nice / awesome, but a tank is much more powerful.

Swords are much more affordable.

We surely need someone with a real life experience in a war, or someone who has finished military service here.

Many europeans, koreans,.. even israeli do

 

[Kiro]

Swords are much more affordable.

We surely need someone with a real life experience in a war, or someone who has finished military service here.

Many europeans, koreans,.. even israeli do

I wish it returned to the age of blades instead of guns

 

[ardianto]

What use do swords have nowadays? They are nice / awesome, but a tank is much more powerful.

Swords are still used in street fighting and inter civilians conflict, until now.

 

[Scimitar]

Nunchunks seem cool but they sort of seem silly

In your hands, yes.

Scimi

 

[Serinity]

I absolutely love swords, as opposed to tanks. Don't get me wrong.

In Jannah I want to fight with swords and have super powers. I want to enter a storyline in Jannah.....

Can I have bloody fights, in Jannah?

 

[darkbro]

I absolutely love swords, as opposed to tanks. Don't get me wrong.

In Jannah I want to fight with swords and have super powers. I want to enter a storyline in Jannah.....

Can I have bloody fights, in Jannah?

I'll be your very first opponent, insha Allah

 

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Fighter planes do more damage than even tanks. Reaper drones.

You can't fight a reaper drone using a sword. That's the reality of it.

The MQ-9 Reaper Drone has GBU-12 Paveway II Laser-Guided Bombs. AGM-114 Hellfire II air-to-ground missiles. AIM-9 Sidewinder (air-to-air missiles). GBU-38 JDAM (Joint Direct Attack Munition) Bombs (guided bombs). Its on-board camera is able to read a licence plate 3.4km away. It flies 50,000 ft (15,000 km) up in the sky. It travels at 483km/h. The four Hellfire missiles it carries cause devastation wherever the bombs land.

A sword isn't enough to fight against it. You need more than that.

 

[M.I.A.]

Fighter planes do more damage than even tanks. Reaper drones.

You can't fight a reaper drone using a sword. That's the reality of it.

The MQ-9 Reaper Drone has GBU-12 Paveway II Laser-Guided Bombs. AGM-114 Hellfire II air-to-ground missiles. AIM-9 Sidewinder (air-to-air missiles). GBU-38 JDAM (Joint Direct Attack Munition) Bombs (guided bombs). Its on-board camera is able to read a licence plate 3.4km away. It flies 50,000 ft (15,000 km) up in the sky. It travels at 483km/h. The four Hellfire missiles it carries cause devastation wherever the bombs land.

A sword isn't enough to fight against it. You need more than that.

that is war.. what you prepare for..

if one side does not mind the cost of life.. the other side will not mind the cost of life.

tell me where they differ?

if you don't mind being bought maybe you won't understand when it happened.

truly all praise is due to Allah swt.


and here is where I remind you of your post.. I am not a manly man.

I have not prepared any power..


seriously the will of God is all pervading.. although I try not to make easy mistakes.

what?

do you make distinction between winning and dieing?

..since when did that matter?

or do you feel pain?


don't worry, when your tired of being hit in the face.. I'm sure your people will put there hands up..

rather than just going through the motions.


or do I underestimate you?

28mb of data left so I guess I will see you later.

 

[Serinity]

I'll be your very first opponent, insha Allah

It'd be my pleasure. In shaa' Allah we meet.

Fighter planes do more damage than even tanks. Reaper drones.

You can't fight a reaper drone using a sword. That's the reality of it.

The MQ-9 Reaper Drone has GBU-12 Paveway II Laser-Guided Bombs. AGM-114 Hellfire II air-to-ground missiles. AIM-9 Sidewinder (air-to-air missiles). GBU-38 JDAM (Joint Direct Attack Munition) Bombs (guided bombs). Its on-board camera is able to read a licence plate 3.4km away. It flies 50,000 ft (15,000 km) up in the sky. It travels at 483km/h. The four Hellfire missiles it carries cause devastation wherever the bombs land.

A sword isn't enough to fight against it. You need more than that.

In today's age knowledge is very important. The one with more knowledge gets to advance further into science and technology and advance in deadly force.

Brute force won't do.

One needs:

Knowledge.
Wisdom.
___________

Know about:
Science and Technology.
Math,
Strategies,
Programmer,
Infrastructure.
Medicine.

etc.

And Ultimately, all this can only be achieved with the Help of Allah. Without the guidance of Allah in what we do, and we are doing stuff in vain. I think.

Alhamdulillah, we have the Qur'aan and the Sunnah.

And Allah :swt: knows best.

 

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

that is war.. what you prepare for..

do you make distinction between winning and dieing?

..since when did that matter?

Exactly right. Being killed, for the Mu'min, is winning. There is no "loss". Whether you are killed or you defeat the enemy, you have "won".

There is an important point to learn and understand well:

Jihaad is not about how to fight for Allaah; it's about how to be killed for Him.

May Allaah Ta`aalaa grant us the understanding, Aameen.

والسلام​

 

[Serinity]

Exactly right. Being killed, for the Mu'min, is winning. There is no "loss". Whether you are killed or you defeat the enemy, you have "won".

There is an important point to learn and understand well:

Jihaad is not about how to fight for Allaah; it's about how to be killed for Him.

May Allaah Ta`aalaa grant us the understanding, Aameen.

والسلام​

can you elaborate on "be killed" cuz I don't think it is (as far as I know) Islamic to dive into battle ready to commit suicide?

how I understand it, it is like this:

Dive into battle, fearing none but Allah - not fearing Death or enemy. While still trying to remain alive, but ready to give up one's life for the sake of Allah.

Dive into battle ready to be killed for the sake of Allah - but not deliberately "killing" oneself. Or deliberately having the enemy kill you - cuz one can not fool Allah.

Jihad is a win/win situation - if you die you win, if you stay alive after battle - you win. In shaa' Allah. There is no "losing".

Allahu alam.

 

[M.I.A.]

Exactly right. Being killed, for the Mu'min, is winning. There is no "loss". Whether you are killed or you defeat the enemy, you have "won".

There is an important point to learn and understand well:

Jihaad is not about how to fight for Allaah; it's about how to be killed for Him.

May Allaah Ta`aalaa grant us the understanding, Aameen.

والسلام​

...then what right have you to complain?

or is it, upon them shall be no fear or nor shall they grieve?

...because seriously those things still linger


learn from them? surely not.

if i can be made the fool, then surely everyone's mistakes catch up to them.

 

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

can you elaborate on "be killed" cuz I don't think it is (as far as I know) Islamic to dive into battle ready to commit suicide?

how I understand it, it is like this:

Dive into battle, fearing none but Allah - not fearing Death or enemy. While still trying to remain alive, but ready to give up one's life for the sake of Allah.

On the day of the Battle of Badr, Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم commanded the Sahaabah to fight the enemy, and roused them, saying:

قُومُوا إِلَى جَنَّةٍ عَرْضُهَا السَّمَوَاتُ وَالْأَرْض​

(March forth towards a Jannah as wide as the heavens and earth...)

Hadhrat `Umayr ibn al-Humaam al-Ansaari رضي الله عنه said, “As wide as the heavens and earth?" Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم said, "Yes." He said, "Bakh-khin, Bakh (an expression of amazement)." Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم asked him, "What has caused you to say this statement, i.e. "Bakh-khin, Bakh"? He said, "Yaa Rasoolallaah, the hope that I might be from its people." Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم said to him, "You are from its people."

Hadhrat `Umayr ibn al-Humaam took out some dates which he had with him and began eating. Then he said:

لَئِنْ أَنَا حَيِيتُ حَتَّى آكُلَ تَمَرَاتِي هَذِهِ إِنَّهَا لَحَيَاةٌ طَوِيلَةٌ​

La'in Ana Hayeetu Hattaa Aakula Tamaraatee Haadhihee Innahaa la-Hayaatun Taweelah

"If I must live long enough to eat these dates, it will be a very long life!"

So saying, he threw whatever he had in his hand, then plunged into the enemy lines and fought until he was killed."

[Narrated in Saheeh Muslim.]

 

[Serinity]

On the day of the Battle of Badr, Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم commanded the Sahaabah to fight the enemy, and roused them, saying:

قُومُوا إِلَى جَنَّةٍ عَرْضُهَا السَّمَوَاتُ وَالْأَرْض​

(March forth towards a Jannah as wide as the heavens and earth...)

Hadhrat `Umayr ibn al-Humaam al-Ansaari رضي الله عنه said, “As wide as the heavens and earth?" Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم said, "Yes." He said, "Bakh-khin, Bakh (an expression of amazement)." Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم asked him, "What has caused you to say this statement, i.e. "Bakh-khin, Bakh"? He said, "Yaa Rasoolallaah, the hope that I might be from its people." Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم said to him, "You are from its people."

Hadhrat `Umayr ibn al-Humaam took out some dates which he had with him and began eating. Then he said:

لَئِنْ أَنَا حَيِيتُ حَتَّى آكُلَ تَمَرَاتِي هَذِهِ إِنَّهَا لَحَيَاةٌ طَوِيلَةٌ​

La'in Ana Hayeetu Hattaa Aakulu Tamaraatee Haadhihee Innahaa la-Hayaatun Taweelah

"If I must live long enough to eat these dates, it will be a very long life!"

So saying, he threw whatever he had in his hand, then plunged into the enemy lines and fought until he was killed."

[Narrated in Saheeh Muslim.]

What a warrior. But am I right in that one must heed orders during war.
Because I read that the Prophet :saw: commanded them to stay where they are, and if we are killed, to not move. the Muslims disobeyed as they saw the disbelievers (assuming) killing the believers, so the archerers ran from their position, and then the disbelievers ambushed from behind - having the Muslims lose the battle because of not heeding the order of the Prophet Muhammad :saw: .

my memory may not be very good, so feel free to correct.

 

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

They say a man only truly has a passion for something when he's willing to die for it.

The greatest act of Love for Allaah Ta`aalaa is to die for Him.

To be killed for Him.

The Awliyaa of Allaah Ta`aalaa used to say, "O Allaah, take from our blood until You are pleased."