KUFR THOUGHTS, how to get rid of them? :'(

[AnonymousPoster]

for obvious reasons i prefer to complain anonymously regarding this thread.

http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-islam/30718-nature-faith-iman.html

personally i suffer from that alot

Ibn 'Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) reported that a man came to the Prophet and said: "I talk myself into something which, to become a charcoal or ashes is preferable to me than to speak it out." The Prophet replied to him: 'Praise be to Allah, Who has sent Satan's trick back to him.'"

In another Hadith [saying of Prophet Muhammad ], some of the Companions of the Prophet came to the Messenger and said: "O Messenger of Allah! We are used to feel some thoughts in our minds which we consider too gruesome to speak out." The Prophet answered: "Is that so?" They replied, "Yes." Then he said: "That is the pure Iman (belief)." It is as if the Prophet was telling his Companions: The meaning of its being pure Iman is that, this emerging insinuations, your shunning of it and regarding it as too gruesome; will cause no harm to your Iman but it is rather an indication that your Iman is pure and unadulterated.

Issue is, EXTREMELY ugly and haram thoughts and phrases pass by my mind, even regarding Allah SWT things that would render someone an apostate if they said them verbally.

My worry is, these thoughts are becoming so frequent that I can't even tell whether i'm inducing these thoughts or whehter its purely shaytan's interference . Not that these thoughts are due to doubts existing in me, i totally reject them, but they just keep occurring to me even though i dont feel even the slightest inclination to them.

I really hate to mention details, but sometiems shaytan makes me imagine myself uttering words against Allah and his prophet, when i get these thoughts hit I immediately follow it by seeking refuge from shaytan, and seriously the only way i get rid of the thoguhts is by shaking my head (physically) till the thoguht gets out of me. But sometimes i get flash backs and it's as if i'm saying it to myself and i don't know if that was intentional or was it shaytan whispering those thoughts to me.

I think this has been happening to me for over two years now. And i'm really suffering, but i'm really worried maybe because its my nafs that's seriously trying to play 'ill dare myself to say that n then seriously regret it'.

I must add, I TOTALLY REJECT THESE THOUGHTS, i love Allah and his messenger. But i don't know how to stop remembering these terrible things

Does the hadiths refer to such things? like recalling (without will) these incidents and it almost feels as if ur saying those phrases to yourself?? but then u really regret it and keep saying istighfar and seeking refuge from Allah?

please help

 

[Maimunah]

salaam

maybe this verses might help

"Repel evil with that which is best: We are well acquainted with the things they say.
And say "O my Lord! I seek refuge with Thee from the suggestions of the Evil Ones.
"And I seek refuge with Thee O my Lord! lest they should come near me."

wasalaam

 

[Firdaus]

hi sis i think you should often read the surat Baqarah and yaassin a lot to drive away these evil thoughts in your mind. You should also do a lot of Zikr-Ul-Allah a lot.

 

[anonymous]

^agree

 

[AnonymousPoster]

hi sis i think you should often read the surat Baqarah and yaassin a lot to drive away these evil thoughts in your mind. You should also do a lot of Zikr-Ul-Allah a lot.

may allah reward u best sis
yes istighfar does help... but it's those moments when you get caught unaware by these memory flash backs. So distressing subhanallah.

"Repel evil with that which is best: We are well acquainted with the things they say.
And say "O my Lord! I seek refuge with Thee from the suggestions of the Evil Ones.
"And I seek refuge with Thee O my Lord! lest they should come near me."

thankyou sis, i never knew 'hamazaat ashayateen' referred to this sort of thing

salams

 

[Salmaan]

say a'uudhubillahi minash-shaytaanir-rajeem

recite ayatul-kursi

do zikrullah and pray

and remember that Allah knows best about our iman

 

[Muhammad]

Perhaps one way to remove these thoughts is to root out any doubts by learning more about Islam. At least this way you can become more firm on your faith and clarify any misconceptions. Also make plenty of du'aa to Allaah to remove these doubts from you and to give you firm conviction Insha'Allaah. Occupy yourself with good deeds such as reading the Qur'an and studying it, and protect yourself from Shaytaan by frequently seeking refuge with Allaah and also making the adhaan makes him go away.

And if an evil whisper comes to you from Shaitân (Satan) then seek refuge with Allâh. Verily, He is All-Hearer, All-Knower.

Verily, those who are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2), when an evil thought comes to them from Shaitân (Satan), they remember (Allâh), and (indeed) they then see (aright).

Qur'an 7:200-201

 

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:

This is from another post, so some things might not relate to you. But its referring to the waswasa (satanic whispers) so it might be of some help insha'Allaah.

jazak Allaah khayr for explaining your situation, because the cure to ignorance is asking, as our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him and his beloved family) said.



I just want you to know that what you are experiencing now is quite common to happen to the believer (the mu'min) and it is a sign of faith. In islam, its called waswasa (the whisperings of satan) and it is one of the ways shaytan will try to put someone off the right path.


Its also important to remember that one of the main reasons you feel weak is because you believe in Allaah, but you don't have any evidence in your mind to prove those satanic thoughts wrong. And the only cure to that is by reading more and more from the Qur'an and Sunnah to clear the misconceptions that satan puts in your mind. This way, the more evidence you have - the more stronger a believer you will become insha'Allaah, and the more evidence you will have to drive away them satanic thoughts insha'Allaah.

We advise you not to pay any attention to these whispers, and to ignore them, and to do the opposite of what they are calling you to do. For these whispers (waswaas) come from the Shaytaan to cause grief to those who believe. The best way to deal with them is to remember Allaah a great deal (dhikr), to seek refuge with Allaah from the accursed Shaytaan [by saying: a`udhu billahi mina ash-shaytani ar-rajim; I seek refuge and protection in Allah from Satan, the accursed).], to keep away from sins and wrong actions which are the means by which Iblees gains control over the sons of Adam. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, he [the Shaytaan] has no power over those who believe and put their trust only in their Lord (Allaah)”

[al-Nahl 16:99]
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It is worth quoting here what Ibn Hajar al-Haythami (may Allaah have mercy on him) said about dealing with waswasah in his book al-Fataawa al-Fiqhiyyah al-Kubra, 1/149. This is what he said:

“He was asked about the problem of waswasah (insinuating whispers from the Shaytaan), and whether there is a remedy for it.

He replied by saying that there is an effective remedy for it, which is to ignore them completely, no matter how frequently they may come to mind. When these whispers are ignored, they do not become established, rather they go away after a short time, as many people have experienced. But for those who pay attention to them and act upon them, they increase until they make him like one who is insane or even worse, as we see among many of those who have suffered from them and paid attention to them and to the devil whose task it is to insinuate these whispers, whom the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) warned us against when he said, “Beware the whispers with regard to water (i.e., wudoo’) which is caused by a devil called al-Walhaan” – because that causes a person to go to extremes with regard to doing wudoo’, as was explained in Sharh Mishkaat al-Anwaar.


In al-Saheehayn there is a report which supports what has been mentioned above, which is that whoever suffers from waswaas should seek refuge with Allaah and turn away from the waswaas. So think about this effective remedy which was taught by the one who does not speak of his own whims and desires to his ummah, and understand that whoever is deprived of this is deprived of all goodness, because waswasah comes from the Shaytaan, according to scholarly consensus, and the accursed one (the Shaytaan) has no other desire than to make the believers go astray, make them confused, make their life a misery, cause them distress to the extent that they leave Islam without realizing it.

“Surely, Shaytaan (Satan) is an enemy to you, so take (treat) him as an enemy”

[Faatir 35:6 – interpretation of the meaning] ​

According to another hadeeth, the one who suffers from waswasah should say, “Aamantu Billaahi wa bi rusulihi (I believe in Allaah and in His Messengers).” Undoubtedly, whoever thinks of the paths of the Messengers of Allaah, especially our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) will find that his path and his law is easy and clear, with no hardship in it.

“… and has not laid upon you in religion any hardship”

[al-Hajj 22:78 – interpretation of the meaning] ​

Whoever ponders this and believes in it sincerely, the problem of waswasah and listening to the Shaytaan will go away. In the book of Ibn al-Sunni it is narrated via ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), “Whoever suffers from this waswaas, let him say ‘Aamantu Billaahi wa bi rusulihi (I believe in Allaah and in His Messengers)’, three times, and it will go away from him.”

Al-‘Izz ibn ‘Abd al-Salaam and others mentioned something similar to the above. They said: the treatment for waswasah is to believe that this is an idea from the Shaytaan and that Iblees is the one who is bringing these thoughts to his mind, and he should strive to fight him. Then he will have the reward of the mujaahid, because he is fighting the enemy of Allaah. If he does that, then the Shaytaan will flee from him. This is what mankind has been tested with from the beginning of time, and Allaah has given him (Iblees) some power over man as a test for him, so that Allaah may show the truth to be true and falsehood to be false, even though the disbelievers may hate that.


In Muslim, hadeeth no. 2203, it is narrated that ‘Uthmaan ibn Abi’l-‘Aas said: “The Shaytaan was interfering with my prayer and recitation of Qur’aan. He [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) ] said: ‘That is a devil called Khanzab, so seek refuge with Allaah from him and spit drily to your left three times.’ I did that, and Allaah took him away from me.”

This hadeeth proves the point we are making, which is that waswasah can only overpower the one who is ignorant and confused and does not know what’s what. But the one who has knowledge and understanding will the Sunnah and keep away from bid’ah. The worst of the innovators are those who follow waswaas, hence Maalik (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrated that his shaykh al-Rabee’ – who was the imam of the people of his time – was the fastest of the people in relieving himself and doing wudoo’.


Ibn Hurmuz used to be slow in relieving himself and in doing wudoo’, and he used to say “I have a problem, do not follow my example.”


Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said that one of the scholars thought it was mustahabb for the one who was affected by waswasah with regard to his wudoo or prayer to say Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah, for when the Shaytaan hears dhikr (remembrance of Allaah) he slinks away, and Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah is the best of dhikr, and the most effective remedy for warding off waswasah is to remember Allaah a great deal.

We ask Allaah to take away the waswasah that you are suffering and to increase us and you in faith, righteousness and piety. Ameen.

And Allaah knows best.


Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com)

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&QR=62839

I strongly encourage you to read the following threads too:

Soul Selling
http://www.islamicboard.com/cyber-counselling/7895-soul-selling.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/cyber-counselling/5028-did-you.html


Satanic Whispers: Meaning & Remedy
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...h-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503544296



You may feel afraid that you're sinful for this act, even though its not your fault. But alhamdulillah (praise be to Allaah Almighty) - our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:

“Allaah has forgiven for my ummah that which is whispered to them and which crosses their minds, so long as they do not act upon it or speak of it.”

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6664; Muslim, 127)​

Allaah Almighty says in the Qur'an:

We send down (stage by stage) in the Qur'an that which is a healing and a mercy to those who believe: to the unjust it causes nothing but loss after loss. (17:82)
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So listening and reciting to the Qur'an (especially surah falaq (113) and surah nas (114)) may help insha'Allaah:

http://quran.jalisi.com (beautiful Qur'an recitations - Sa'ad al ghamdi)


All of them are authentic and enjoyable masha'Allaah, and it may make it easier to get a deeper understanding of islam so you can beat those evil thoughts because the cure to ignorance is knowledge.

http://www.streetdawah.com/anwaralawlaki.html

www.kalamullah.com


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Allaahu ta'aala a'lam. (Allaah Almighty knows best.)


If you got any questions, please do ask insha'Allaah. jazak Allaah khayr.



:wasalamex


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I think you should check this link out also insha'Allaah:

http://www.islamicboard.com/cyber-counselling/20440-please-brothers-sisters-i-need-help.html



When a person has faith, then shaytan will keep whispering to the person to try to distract them from the siraat-ul mustaqeem (the straight path) . So keep remembering Allaah, and keep praising Allaah (i.e. subhan Allaah, alhamdulillah, Allaahu akbar, La illaah illallaah etc.)


Whenever you pray 5 daily prayers, then concentrate on what you say, because within surah fatiha - you recite 'ikhdinas-siraat-al mustaqeem' (guide us to the straight path.) - and if you're sincere in this, Allaah Almighty will keep you on the straight path insha'Allaah, because you pray this surah about 17times a day [minimum] (when you pray your 5 daily salaah/prayers.)


If you remember Allaah Almighty at times of ease, Allaah will remember you at times of hardship insha'Allaah.


We will keep you in our dua's insha'Allaah.


:wasalamex

 

[anonymous]

by allah, I am astonished!! i get the same thing, and i even shake my head. sometimes my neck hurts as well. sometimes i sort of blink coontinusly, my mum has even noticed it. its my way of distracting myelf. whih isn't good, as there is a better way: seeking refuge, which also prevents the the pain. im not lying. i was reading it, and some of it sounds like me!! sometimes they are so strong, it feels that the next step (i.e ext time i think of them) is to utter them. say i did, accidently (sometimes I speak the same time as i think of what m thinking), am i responsible.

may allah reward u best sis
yes istighfar does help... but it's those moments when you get caught unaware by these memory flash backs. So distressing subhanallah.

sis/brother anonymousgender, do you mean here that you think back and ask yourself, did i really say that, or am i imagining that i said that?? is that what u mean??

 

[AnonymousPoster]

by allah, I am astonished!! i get the same thing, and i even shake my head. sometimes my neck hurts as well. sometimes i sort of blink coontinusly, my mum has even noticed it. its my way of distracting myelf. whih isn't good, as there is a better way: seeking refuge, which also prevents the the pain. im not lying. i was reading it, and some of it sounds like me!! sometimes they are so strong, it feels that the next step (i.e ext time i think of them) is to utter them. say i did, accidently (sometimes I speak the same time as i think of what m thinking), am i responsible.

i dont think it ever got to point where i wanted to say it verbally. but the thoughts come in such a way as if i decided 2think it.

n yeh i go through all the underlined bits too. i just hope Allah lifts that torture from me ameen.

may allah reward u best sis
yes istighfar does help... but it's those moments when you get caught unaware by these memory flash backs. So distressing subhanallah.

sis/brother anonymousgender, do you mean here that you think back and ask yourself, did i really say that, or am i imagining that i said that?? is that what u mean??

yes :heated:

thanks brother fi and Muhammad. I think it's a test for me. It's nothing to do with lack of understanding of why the thoughts are wrong. Allah al musta'3an.

 

[anonymous]

yeah sis/brother anonymousgender, do you mean here that you think back and ask yourself, did i really say that, or am i imagining that i said that?? is that what u mean??

also i think, yeah it could be bad/i could have said something becuse..., or i think, nah, inshallh i'll be right. sometimes the way i look at it is: if the wiswaas is gone, than i've done something bad, if it still comes, then inshallah, im okay. and sometimes when i ignore it, satan whispers to me something even stronger.
my wiswaas usully comes when i've been working on something for too long. eg: if i've been doing my homework for too long. somehting like that.

its reached a point where somedays i go through it, and it effects me in the respect of my sleep. i.e i go to sleep thinking about it, and wake up thinking about it. im feel uncomfortable in mydreams even. i know that sounds weird, but its true. come to think of it, its like i know the real world and wahst happening to me, even in my dreams. some times i wake up and go, Yuk!! i just wanna fall back asleep.
anyways, better go.

 

[AnonymousPoster]

also i think, yeah it could be bad/i could have said something becuse..., or i think, nah, inshallh i'll be right. sometimes the way i look at it is: if the wiswaas is gone, than i've done something bad, if it still comes, then inshallah, im okay. and sometimes when i ignore it, satan whispers to me something even stronger.
my wiswaas usully comes when i've been working on something for too long. eg: if i've been doing my homework for too long. somehting like that.

its reached a point where somedays i go through it, and it effects me in the respect of my sleep. i.e i go to sleep thinking about it, and wake up thinking about it. im feel uncomfortable in mydreams even. i know that sounds weird, but its true. come to think of it, its like i know the real world and wahst happening to me, even in my dreams. some times i wake up and go, Yuk!! i just wanna fall back asleep.
anyways, better go.

you are different to the other anon poster? :-[
could all anonymous people post in different colours to distinguish their anon posts from other anon ones?

 

[The Ruler]

you know...i get them thoughts at times too...but reading the Qur'an with meaning clears all my thoughts...also thinking about how muslims are being disgraced and punished around the world only increases my faith alhamdulillah

 

[AnonymousPoster]

you know...i get them thoughts at times too...but reading the Qur'an with meaning clears all my thoughts...also thinking about how muslims are being disgraced and punished around the world only increases my faith alhamdulillah

alhamdulilah, i do that too, but its nothing to do with faith decreasing or lack of belief as i mentioned... they are thoughts that strike even during prayer or reading quran, absolutely nothing to do with not believing what i read. But... oh nevermind.

your input appreciated though

 

[DigitalStorm82]

Bro/Sis,

Try to avoid seeing and hearing much fitnah as possible... stop watching tv or listening to the radio if you do... or restrict it as much as possible. Try to avoid seeing fitnah in the streets... lower your gaze.

The less fitnah your mind is exposed to... less it will dig up images of kufr. If you're experiencing such things in salaah during the month of Ramadan... shaytan is tied up... so its the shaytan within you... You need to control it.

Involve yourself in rememberence of Allah swt and seek refuge with him from the shaytan and from yourself.

May Allah make it easy for you, Inshallah.

W'salaamz,
Hamid

 

[Malaikah]

alhamdulilah, i do that too, but its nothing to do with faith decreasing or lack of belief as i mentioned... they are thoughts that strike even during prayer or reading quran, absolutely nothing to do with not believing what i read. But... oh nevermind.

it seems like most peoples advice isnt helping you...

you just keep shaking your head... sounds like these are purely random thoughts that you obviously dont believe... just keep shaking your head or whatever and make dua that it does away...

 

[AnonymousPoster]

^ thanks sis for advise.
and digi thanks too.....

wasalaam.

 

[Malaikah]

i was listening to a lecture yesterday and the sheikh guy talked about this issue and he said when the shaytan comes and makes you think about stuff that you dont mean, like the ones mentioned in the 1st post in this thread, then just seek refuge from allah swt... that its just purely from that shaytan and stuff...

so i guess all you can do it seek refuge when it happens... but i think if you are still worried you should talk to a sheikh about it to get some better insight or something

 

[AnonymousPoster]

i was listening to a lecture yesterday and the shiek guy talked about this issue and he said when the shaytan comes and makes you think about stuff that you dont mean, like the ones mentioned in the 1st post in this thread, then just seek refuge from alalh swt... that its just purely from that shaytan and stuff...

so i guess all you can do it seek refuge when it happens... but i think if you are still worried you should talk to a shiek about it to get some better insight or something

much appreciated


ps: It's sheikh by the way - just thought i let you know-.

 

[Hijrah]

Just to let the topic starter know, you are not alone, I have the same problem.

Assalamualaikum