Letter From Sister Fatima in Prison Abu Ghraib; HELP HELP!!!

[bin direnken]

There is such a thing as "hired pens", or "pens for hire." These are writers who are commissioned to write fictitious propaganda in hopes of swaying more sympathy for a cause. They are paid handsomely to set aside all of their morals and sense of integrity by writing fallacies for the almighty dollar. It happens all the time.

 

[TEH]

But my generalizations still stand. It is very true that in this country traditional Muslima facial features and body types are not typically sought by the typical American male. Physically, they do not have the petite, small facial features and soft, smooth textures that detail most non-Muslims. And as one other thread has already stated, most men (regardless of faith) want the best looking women to produce their offspring.

OK, you know what, you have just gone into a whole new topic right there. We were talking about rape, and youre talking about how sought after Muslim Women are to American men. Firstly, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so basically your generalisation doesnt work...

Secondly, do you know what rape is? Do you know why people comit rape? SHOCK HORROR, it isnt always because the man finds the woman beautiful. He could find her ugly, and still rape her, do you know why? Men also rape women because they can, the power aspect, some sick individuals who are power freaks, and the feel the need to show others that they can do whatever they want to them. Another reason, simply to relieve their sexual tension, who else are they going to do it with??

Now I'm speaking generally, but I've found that Muslima's bridge this unfair gap by competing for husbands with 'chastity' and 'piousness.' It's a way to remove the genetics aspect in hopes of providing a more favorable outcome for future relationships. And it seems to work well for them. Muslima's have been successful in making the word 'modesty' almost believable.

Dont confuse women and deen. The reason why one should marry a woman, as our Prophet (S) said, was because of her deen, because that will be best for us. Yes certain women with their own agendas exist, but that is true in all cultures, but dont make out as if women act modestly, simply to get a husband, they dont, they do it for Allah's sake, because that is what pleases him..

:brother:

 

[imaad_udeen]

yeah i agree, rape is a horrendous crime because it affects the sisters physically, emotionally, mentally, socially - nearly in every way possible. no matter who it is commited by, it is a big crime but if the american soldiers have gone there to get justice, then why are they doing this?

There is certainly a number of American soldiers (a small minority) who do not have the morality or sense of decency and compassion that most of the others do. This is true of any group.

the US claimed that there were WMD within iraq too, were they truthful? did they have any proof of that before they had invaded? they believed that osama was in afghanistan too, yet after they had destroyed all the muslim families, osama bin laden was nowhere? where could he have gone?

Pakistan. Anyways, the entire world assumed Hussein had WMD. The fact that he did not is not the issue. The issue is that Saddam failed to abide by his cease fire agreement with the US to allow weapons inspectors to prove he did not have them. The war would have been avoided had Saddam abided by his agreements.



why is it that there statistics rarely have a conclusion? or at least a positive conclusion?

are the americans making it any easier? the majority of the people in iraq believed that life was easier before 'the heros' came along.

Sure life was 'easier' but was it better? Did the future hold much promise? Did the Shi'a and Kurdish Iraqis have much hope to prosper under the domination of the Sunni backed Baath party? Would there have ever been justice for all those Saddam had murdered?

Iraq will be better off in the loong run with Saddam gone. But time will tell.

i dont agree with that, like i said above; the majority of the people in iraq said that they were in a better situation a few years back before the americans came. the americans caused even more terror than the iraqis did, and even though there was terror before - trust me; the majority of the muslim (even if they did terrorist acts) didn't rape muslim sisters wherever they went.

I don't think Americans are raping Muslim women whereever they go. If you can prove this, please do.

most of the acts are done, maybe due to the sects within the religion. the fight between shia' and sunni? but they may fight - but they still believe that Allaah subhanahu wa ta'aala exists, they all know that rape is a crime unlike the americans who dont even believe that a god is watching over them. in society too, the americans take sex like a common thing, whereas in muslim countries it is still counted as a taboo.

I think it is unfair to say that Americans do not believe that God is watching over them. And I know the vast majority of Americans know rape is a crime and that it is an evil act.

You do realize that rape is illegal here as well.

referring to your part about the americans pumping in billions of dollars, where does it say that? do you really believe they would give that much? or is it just a deal of stealing the oil and giving flour and rice to some of the people there?

The government of the US is losing money in Iraq.


All Praise is for Allah (swt) and his Prophet (pbuh) and hopefully he will show us all the way to rightiousness.

 

[Caliphate]

7asbiyaAllahu Wa ni3mal wakeela. Inna li Allahi wa ina illahi Raji3oon.

Ya ra7man ya ra7eem protect your servants from the Dirty Kuffar and their helpers. Ya Allah torture and punish them the way they torture us and punish us. Ya Allah to you is Our Return, and our misery is not hidden from you. Ya Rabbi bring justice and victory to Al muminoon and give the dignity back to our muslim sisters in prisons and brothers as well. Oh Allah nothing is hidden from you and to you we complain about our weakness and misery. Oh Allah we complain only to you ans ask for help.

 

[- Qatada -]

Salaam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

ameen, thuma ameen..


wa Salaam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

 

[imaad_udeen]

My apologies. I didn't mean to offend anybody.

But my generalizations still stand. It is very true that in this country traditional Muslima facial features and body types are not typically sought by the typical American male. Physically, they do not have the petite, small facial features and soft, smooth textures that detail most non-Muslims. And as one other thread has already stated, most men (regardless of faith) want the best looking women to produce their offspring.

There is no racial group called "Muslims." I'm Muslim and I have blonde hair, blue eyes and the whitest skin this side of England.

You must be refering to Arab features or Turkish features, etc.

 

[Halima]

My apologies. I didn't mean to offend anybody.

But my generalizations still stand. It is very true that in this country traditional Muslima facial features and body types are not typically sought by the typical American male. Physically, they do not have the petite, small facial features and soft, smooth textures that detail most non-Muslims. And as one other thread has already stated, most men (regardless of faith) want the best looking women to produce their offspring.

" Looks decieve people". That is one main aspect of women that men fall into the trap. Believe me..there are women that are beautiful on the outside, but they are sure as hell not beautful on the inside. The way how a western women dresses establishes an impression on her. That impression is not a positive one. Unlike muslim women, we must resverve ourselves and we must have the dignity to respect ourselves. WE WANT people to think that we are modest, and shy, and not in any way flirtatious. We DO NOT want men to think that we do not have respect for our bodies, because that is not the case. In islam, it Is NOT beauty that will carry us through this world and get us to jannah. It IS NOT beauty that will get us the 'best man' in this world. Beauty is simply a understatement that doesn't even matter to us. To us, we must abide by the islamic rules in order to go to jannah. At the same time, it is Islam that will protect us from the evils that is lurking inside the murky waters. When I talk of evil, I mean men that stare at womne's legs. Men that stalk women and kidnap them. Men that murder and rape women we nobody is looking. Now see, THat's the evil that I'm talking about. It hurts me, when I see a half naked woman prancing down the street acting as if nothing is ever going to happen to her based on her actions. That is Sooo no true. That is why there is one specific ayah mentioned in the quran that we must not stamp our feet, nor must we attract any attention due to the way we have to be. I cannot stress enough of how beauty is NOT everything in this world.

 

[Snowflake]

Yes, there are bad things that go on in prisons, no one will deny that. We all saw plenty of pictures of the embarassing photos meant to weaken wills. American's are attempting to get information from the inmates so that they can possibly thwart another terrorist attack. But there are guidelines as to what they can do to these guys. Some are not the nicest treatments, but they spare the inmate of being permanently unharmed. If it's sucessful in gathering information to keep America safe and the prisoners are safe as well, then it's beneficial.

No American military man is looking to rape Muslim inmates, that's preposterous. Even in the pictures of Abu Gharib described, only Americans were the ones having sex..and that was with each other.

Muslim women are not attractive to American men. And this article amounts to a carefully planned article, meant to incite Muslim anger by the extremists.

Don't buy it.

Are you serious?????????????? Which world are you living in? It seems you have formed your own opinions and have become blind to the truth. Hell the american rape our sisters not because they find them attractive or not but to subject them to the worst abuse a woman can suffer. What you said was extremely absurd. For God's sake wake up and see the truth. And don't you dare day these kind of letters are meant to incite anger in extremists. Sisters in Kashmir are drowning themselves with plaques around their necks begging for the help of muslim brothers cuz they are being raped infront of their fathers and brothers by indian soldiers. Stop living in cuckoo land and come back to the real world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ghazi]

Yes, there are bad things that go on in prisons, no one will deny that. We all saw plenty of pictures of the embarassing photos meant to weaken wills. American's are attempting to get information from the inmates so that they can possibly thwart another terrorist attack. But there are guidelines as to what they can do to these guys. Some are not the nicest treatments, but they spare the inmate of being permanently unharmed. If it's sucessful in gathering information to keep America safe and the prisoners are safe as well, then it's beneficial.

No American military man is looking to rape Muslim inmates, that's preposterous. Even in the pictures of Abu Gharib described, only Americans were the ones having sex..and that was with each other.

Muslim women are not attractive to American men. And this article amounts to a carefully planned article, meant to incite Muslim anger by the extremists.

Don't buy it.

Salaam

How can you say that for sure, imagine the letter was real how would you feel then.