Losin/No faith???

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you truemuslim;

my faith is always weak tho

Faith is a journey always one day at a time, right up until our death, as a teenager it can seem overwhelming to think you might have another eighty years of struggle ahead. Is this 'jihad'

It sounds like music is something you are going to have to struggle with all your life. Feeling guilty is something you are going to have to struggle with all your life. And it sounds like lots of other Muslims give you a hard time, and you will struggle with that through your life.

Truthfully, none of us are really worthy of salvation by our own efforts, we are all weak and sinful in some way.

Somehow your faith in a loving and merciful God has to be stronger than the despair you feel from your own weakness. Some how you need to find faith in a loving and merciful God today, and tomorrow, always one day at a time.

If you can forgive and be merciful and understanding towards the Muslims who have given you a hard time, you might then come to understand how God can be merciful to you, when you give him a hard time.

In the spirit of searching for a loving and merciful God.

Eric

 

[Snowflake]

Eric H:Truthfully, none of us are really worthy of salvation by our own efforts, we are all weak and sinful in some way.

Greetings Eric,

Very well put. We all are dependant upon the mercy of our Creator and should never give up hoping for His forgiveness.

Originally Posted by truemuslim
my faith is always weak tho.

asalam alaikum wr wb,

Sis, you said you do not feel shame in listening to music. Yet look how worried you are about not being a good muslim because of it. So it isn't as if you are whole-heartedly enjoying something that's forbidden. Allah swt knows you inside out; your strengths, weaknesses, feelings, emotions are all in His awareness. He also knows how you're beating yourself up on LI about it.Then since He has the power to know the unseen, He also has the power to guide you and forgive you. Try asking. If he wills, He can remove the love of music from your heart. And that way you won't miss it - because you won't enjoy it anymore.


Anyway sis, there is no such thing as a 'perfect muslim'. If we did not sin and needed not the forgiveness of Allah, we'd never come to know the blessings of His mercy.

Just think, your 'sin' could've been worse. You could be listening to music in clubs/parties etc. But no! You're listening in your own home. So it isn't exactly the worse thing to be doing. Read my earlier post. I used to be such a cheeky lil so and so. I used to think, "Ahhh, I don't need to pray 5 times a day, cuz I'm thinking of Allah all the time, whereas praying is thinking about Him 5 times a day." astagfirullah! But did Allah punish me? Instead he gave me understanding of Islam. As the Prophet (PBUH) said, "When Allah wants to go good for a person, He makes him understand the religion." Why did He bless me with understanding instead of punishing me? Because He knew what was in my heart. Heck, I can't explain even in my pre-islamic days how much I loved Allah, just saying it bring tears to my eyes. That is what Allah sees in us. He guides those who love Him. Then why fear sis?

If you can, try to cut down listening to music. If you can't, have faith that as long as you ask and love Allah, He will guide you. It doesn't happen overnight sis. It'll be like walking through a maze with a blindfold. But you know what? When it does happen inshaAllah, it won't matter if you can see or not - Allah will be guiding you through the maze of fitnah by His Hands on your shoulders. Like a person with sight guides a blindperson through a forest - with care. Never give up hope in Allah's mercy. He isn't angry with our every little fault as some like to think. NO rather He is Merciful and wants to be Merciful to His creations. I say ask Him while the offer's on.


wa alaikum asalam wr wb


what did I write that it got so long lol?! :rollseyes

 

[truemuslim]

what did I write that it got so long lol?!

something worth reading.
jazakallah khair sis


and jazakallah khair bro Eric

it just doesnt seem easy tho. or hard. it seems more impossible. and i said its not JUST the music. music only starts hell...then the rest finishes...

 

[Souljette]

Hunz u can do it ..derez no can't in dis life..ALlah doesn't give you something you can't handle....Jst stop..literally ...whn u wanna listen to it..click on a nasheed...think of sum else u wanna do..go out..stuff like dat...ye it will cum bak at timez bt jst try to make yourself stop..i'm tryin too..i stopeed nd den i strted nd i stoped nd den i started nd i quit couple months ago nd inshallah i iwll stick wit it but I'm trying you know and Allah (S.W.T) knows you..i know how you feel bcuz i feel that way about couple things I'm doin and i also feel every1 here is so good and luk at me..i'm so badd..i feel dis way exactly but we cant' jst moan abt it..we gotta try to come up to that post inshallah too..these sisters nd brothers dint jst do it in one day..they studied and read and tried and that's wht matterzz...Inshallah everything will be ok

 

[Snowflake]

asalam alaikum wr wb,

It might seem impossible sis, but it isn't. I'm talking from experience here
I didn't just love music, I grew up wanting to be a singer lol. I couldn't imagine doing anything else in life. I had books and books of songs hindi songs that I'd learn by heart and then record myself ;D My fave band was Paki rock band JUNOON! I listened to their songs nonstop on repeat - in the house and in my car. It was madness! And like you if anyone had told me then that one day I'd stop listening to music and chuck away all my music, I'd have told them it was impossible too!

But you know what? It did happen. I can't remember exactly the moment, but I developed an aversion to it. Suddenly, I couldn't bear the sound of it, except my own singing - which is allowed. I sing when I cook, lol! But music? It's probably four years now and I still don't want to listen to it. And this only happened, not with my efforts, but because Allah helped me. All I did and still do is that when I find myself weak, I ask Him to help me. So why not do the same. Ask Him and really mean it. It's no big deal for Allah, He can change your feeling towards music. What's difficult for Him? Nothing.

Stop fretting and ask Him to help you. I say, "Ya Allah, please help me in .......... as I am too weak and I can't do it without Your Help." Allah loves humility. And why would He not help His servant in doing the right thing? Of course He will. The condition is that the servant is also sincere in their asking for His help. Have faith hun, Allah is sooooooooooooooo Kind and Lovely and Beautiful and Merciful, He is waiting for His servants to call on Him for His help.


wa alaikum asalam wr wb

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^^ I SO AGREE! Sounds like me..lol. I mean your description Some of it. Mix of yours and sis Souljette's.

 

[Souljette]

lolz i evn used to listen to Junoon i used to sing around nd still do lolzz and i can't bear listening to indian songs now ...i stopped long time ago wit indian songs nd all although i hear it evrywhere bt i dnt listen to it..it's jt dere..bt english i had a hard time wit nd inshalah dis time i hpe i keep on going and that's wht u gtta do sis truemuslim

 

[truemuslim]

x10!!!
omg i havent opened up youtube today!!
jazakallah khair sisters!
jazakallah khair muslimah_sis!





it aint gna last tho. once i start continueing school......youtubes back up...
*sigh*

and yes this is a big thing for me to not open up youtube coz i lissen to it like all the time. i cant think during school without music!!

EDIT: ****ttttttt i reminded me ((((~!~~!!!!!!! i must go to the punching bag for a sec

 

[Souljette]

ye trust me i thought that too..my friends would be sittin and listenin to music and doin wrk and once again whn i strted i felt the same bt i strted to quit and i tld my frnds tht i was goin to ..they weren't sure bt they knew that i could do it if i wanted to so they jst let me be and soon i stopped and when they said want my ipod? i'd go no...nd they'd smile..alhamdullah bt yu hv to strt bit by bit..how do u listen to music? u vh an mp3? ipod??

 

[truemuslim]

i lissen by youtube, i lissen by some downloaded onto the computer for when i make videos about islam and all and i have an "islamic ipod" which is alfurqan. its amazing. i lissen to quran on it.....but then in the audio part im full of outlandish and native deen!!!!

 

[Souljette]

i reallyy want an ipod islamic one ..mannnn i'm lukin fr it..so jst change the audio parts into proper nasheeds that's it...and the youtube thing jst decrease the volume whn u lukin at it and it's nt neccessary to make islamic videos...you tube jst came cuple years ago u lived witout it same thing goes now

 

[truemuslim]

^ i didn't kno about youtube when it came out. i just joined but i been lissenin to stuff on it for like 6 mo. and joined sometime in april and started making things. GOOD and bad things (bad things= music stuff)
its not that easy sis if i delete every song off my ipod ima put it back later on.....trust me i tried..plus i plug it in to the xbox 360 wen i play that way its soooo tiight playin stuff on it..and i cant play without it.!
oh and i HAVE to leave the volume up all the way when i lissen...i kno sux duntit... i cant even hear me typing right now!!

oh and i have the thread "alfurqan ipod" if u want it. its so tiight and so worth it its not really an ipod but it gots hadiths and quran , tafseer etc etc muchhh more...
Wasalaam

 

[TrueStranger]

Ook i kno by my recent threads all these "clues" lead to something bad but no dont fink that plz coz they dont .

Ok, when you feel....doubt...or something...that allah dont like u er somthing...and that feeling only came after u found out something is haram?...and that thing u do thats haram is hard to quit and u KNO its haram yet u continue to do it wit no shame...at all...:-[...and yet ur dua's are still answered everytime and u still feel like this? and u bein pressured by others and pushed by others and feel doubt and left out (oh that rhymed lol) and start feeling like it aint haram and stuff because of wut others say and because ther isnt much for u to kno so that u believe...??and things get worse and u fink its coz this reason??...

i kno u must be like so confused right now...read it 3 more times...trust me it works!


Wasalaam

and yes this is very embarassing...

You're certainly showing some amount of shame and discomfort, and those feels at times are helpful, especially when you are doing something wrong. It is those inner emotions which will at times guide us towards the right path. When you feel ashamed and embarrassed you will try to reflect more and think about the wrong you are doing or committed, and you try to avoid that so you won’t feel ashamed or discomfort. This thread is actually the first step and that is feeling remorse and ashamed. And Allah does like you, but Allah doesn’t like the haraam you do. Sometimes refraining from something that is haraam is hard, and it takes time. But gradually you will cease to doing that which is haraam Insha'Allah, and that is when you feel grateful that Allah has helped you through your difficult moments, and your imaan increases.

As for people, people are generally to advice you to do what is wrong or haraam, and one good advice I have for you sista, which helped me a lot is that when you find yourself in such positions do the opposite of what your nafs (Soul) is telling you. And remember you are doing this for the good of your own soul

He says: ‘And He who sacrifices and works hard is only doing so for his own soul’ (Qur`an 17:7)

Read this article it will help you

http://www.nuradeen.com/Reflections/CosmologyOfTheSelf2.htm

The Commanding Self - Nafs al-ammara
If the nafs is completely wayward and has lost touch with its fitra, it is classified as nafs al-ammara. This is the totally selfish, most egotistical of the selves, which, as the Qur’an says, ‘commands to evil’ (Qur’an 12:53). It is the nafs of the supremely self-centered three-year old child or the despot who wants something and wants it instantly. This nafs will not listen to reason nor rationality. It is purely whimsical.

The Blaming Self - Nafs al-lawwama
Slightly higher on the scale is the nafs whose conscience is pricked because of its bad behavior. As a result, it blames itself for being extreme and may be spurred into positive action in order to do something about its dismal condition. This is the nafs al-lawwama, the blaming self. <<<<< Does this sound familiar????:-[

The Inspired Self - Nafs al-mulhama
If the nafs al-lawwama progresses farther along the path, improving itself, becoming more tolerant and inspired, perhaps even creative, it becomes what is known as nafs al-mulhama, the inspired self. It develops a ‘live and let live’ attitude. It says, ‘why not?’ or ‘It’s crazy - let’s do it!’ Everything goes, even the wildest ideas.

The Certain Self - Nafs al-mutma’inna
When the nafs al-lawwama is brought under control, it is on the road to contentment, to becoming nafs al-mutma’inna. This self is certain that it will come to faithfully reflect the fitra in time, with diligence, commitment, honesty, companionship and applying the right prescriptions. It will increase in its certainty that it has come from beyond time; that it is only here to learn, to experience and to be poised for that final, incredible journey out of the prison of its body.

 

[truemuslim]

^ sis jazakallah khair


but


the big problem is i dont feel shame. at all
i think its ok
specially since there isnt a real reason of why music is haram and well cough cough that makes me do it more coughcough olddeletedthread cough cough

Jazakallah khair and jannah sis

 

[Souljette]

Sis i hate it whn ppl say i can't...it's not that we can't it's just that we are not strong enough to stop it...You can do it ...if you want to sincerely...Don't put it in your head that it's not easy and all that ...I've lived through it..i know it...my friend she came and lived with me and she didn't listen to music the whole time she was here because she knew i didnt and i told her it was haram and she was an addict bt she stopped for the time being she was with me..she could do it because it wasn't dere so all the things that you listen to music with avoid for a time being or put qura'n on it...I don't even use youtube cuz my comp has issues wit it and even when i do it's for islamic purposes or something stupid lolz

 

[truemuslim]

^ *sigh* nooooo not my dads speech!! "u can do it if u put ur mind to it" ugh i hate that. i kno it! i just can'-- i mean i just may not be able to

 

[Souljette]

You can u jst wholeheartedly don't feel it because you see nothing rong with it..i thought that too..music is so addictive it's hard and all..but it's something that's haraam...I mean how do you think it's not rong if during your prayers you dont' have khushoo when you can't concentrate properly because your thinking about the last song or hummin it..don't you find it hard to concentrate?

 

[Amat Allah]

Aalamo Alikom

specially since there isnt a real reason of why music is haram and well cough cough that makes me do it more coughcough olddeletedthread cough cough

music is haram cause it is the way of the shaitan to make and keep the servant of Allah inadvertent from Adeker (remembring Allah) and keeping us amazed by the words of the songs to make us invested by the benightedness which increase the ignorant of our deen...I mean instead of listening to the music ,search for something you don`t know about the religion of Allah and by this way you will be able to be stronger and stronger and by the way, listening to the music is one of the resones of the bad end may Allah protect you my dear ,and music and Qur`an doesn`t compound inside muslims heart...

I am not telling this to you to make you sad or uncomfortable I am trying to give an advice to someone I care about and love .to someone I want her to be one of the resident of the paradise my dear...

you have to work realy hard to deserve the mercy of our Lord above all the skies and don`t stand a side doing nothing and say if God want to guide me he will if not he won`t ,this is right but you have to do your best to deserve the guidance of Allah, if you walk to Allah ,Allah will run to you.don`t forget that....

I am realy sorry if I did and upset you but I care about you my dear
may Allah guide you and protect you from the torment of hell and reward you with Al Jannah...

Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^^ Ameeeeeeeen!!!!!!!

 

[Amat Allah]

What I want to say......

let your desire of being protected from the hell outfight the desire of listening to the music ...

let your desire of being one of the residentes of the paradise overmaster the haram deeds...

let your desire of being a winner in the hereafter cut all the ropes of the shaitan cause he is going to pull you with these ropes very very slowly untill you fall in the hellfire with him...

let your Love to your Lord Allah protect you from the anger of Allah...

becarefull and don`t let the shaitan controling you, truemuslim listen to the music,truemuslim music is not haram,truemuslim there isnt a real reason of why music is haram ,truemuslim do whatever you want to do cause Allah is The Most Compassionate The Most Mercifull ,truemuslim don`t listen to them they are all stupide trying to act so smart ,truemuslim ......untill

"[16] (Their allies deceived them) like Shaitân (Satan), when he says to man: "Disbelieve in Allâh." But when (man) disbelieves in Allâh, Shaitân (Satan) says: "I am free of you, I fear Allâh, the Lord of the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinn and all that exists)![17] So the end of both will be that they will be in the Fire, abiding therein. Such is the recompense of the Zâlimûn (i.e. polytheists, wrong-doers, disbelievers in Allâh and in His Oneness)."

sura Al Hasher 16-17

is it a happy end my dear? he is a deceitful fox no but worse ,he wants us all to be with him in hell Aotho bellah...

"18] O you who believe! Fear Allâh and keep your duty to Him. And let every person look to what he has sent forth for the morrow, and fear Allâh. Verily, Allâh is All-Aware of what you do.[19] And be not like those who forgot Allâh (i.e. became disobedient to Allâh), and He caused them to forget their own selves, (let them to forget to do righteous deeds). Those are the Fâsiqûn (rebellious, disobedient to Allâh).[20] Not equal are the dwellers of the Fire and the dwellers of the Paradise. It is the dwellers of Paradise that will be successful."

Sura Al Hasher 18-19-20

this life is going to end so,work soo hard for the hereafter my dear cause there is no time and befor you regret...

may Allah protect you from the torment of hell and reward you with The paradise ...
Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen