That is true. The term Christians is used to describe people that aren't really Christians a lot by the media. Muslims seem to think most of the west are Christians, but a very small percentage are and they don't blow up or beat up anyone. Jesus never taught violence; unlike the Quran, it states love your enemies. People who don't follow Jesus' teaching are not Christians for real
Astagfirullah, this makes you sound very self-righteous and I hope that you don't really mean it in that way. :hmm: And I won't get started on what you said about people who don't follow Jesus not being real Christians...I must digress.
You don't know what the Quran says. You haven't read it. I live in the West, born and raised in the United States to be exact. Muslims are in the West. We know what goes on here. Muslims are all over the world. It's not wise to make blanket statements like "Muslims seem to think most of the West are Christians." Maybe some who live outside of it but not all. In fact, Muslims have been in America since before America was even a sovereign nation. And yes, the Amish don't go around blowing anyone up but your biased views and spiteful dialogue aren't any better than any other form of bigotry. I would refrain from using that word because it can be loaded as it's commonly associated with right-wing Republican extremists, which is not what I think of you, but the core definition of it still stands. From what I gather here you are not even trying to understand or see anything from the Muslim point of view. You basically said that you'd become an agnostic before you submitted yourself to One God alone and became a Muslim.
The more we talk and dialogue with you, I don't feel that you are here to really, truly, sincerely learn about Islam at all anymore. Instead, it seems like you're here to try and confirm some of the suspicions that you've been indoctrinated with, and reject Islam because you don't want to accept it as the truth. You haven't been thorough.
Based on your posts here, you haven't read a biography about the Prophet Muhammad (saws), you haven't interacted with actual Muslims off of the internet, you haven't visited a mosque, you haven't bothered to pick up an English translation of the Quran and read it. You haven't read any books to see how Muslims view the prophets, peace be upon them all, you haven't studied the way hadith are authenticated, when I asked if you studied any other religions, you didn't respond so I don't know if you've actually even ever studied any of the other religions out there either. You're uncomfortable with the idea that Islam is here and you think that every other Christian that converts to Islam is condemned or we weren't really Christians in the first place. You don't know what the life and experiences are like for people who don't necessarily believe in what you believe in and you can't force anyone to. But just because someone has a different view of Allah than you do, doesn't make them wrong. I think you need to open your eyes and become more tolerant and understanding. You're being hard and judgemental of other people for being guided to what they consider the truth but just because you don't see it, doesn't make them wrong. Open your eyes and at least try to understand that much. The fact is that Islam is still the fastest growing religion in the world despite all of the hatred and animosity towards it. Muslims are not perfect. We know that we are sinful and that's why we pray to Allah each and every day to forgive us for our sins and we strive to become better people by following His religion and making sure we do actions that will be pleasing to the Creator. Alhamdulillahi rabbil alameeen.
If someone was holding a gun in the face of my Christian or Jewish sister or brother and if I was in a position to stop that one from pulling the trigger then in shaa Allah I would--not turn the other cheek and watch them die.
You are rejecting Islam without even actually studying it. What you are doing here on this forum with other members is not research. This is merely a starting point. You have to get off the computer and step into reality. We all have a lot to learn.
Before I read a translation of the Quran, I heard from non-Muslims that it was a terrible book and everything about it was wrong and barbaric and there was nothing in it that spoke of LOVE, FORGIVENESS and MERCY. After reading the Quran, I found that the book was filled with verses about love, forgiveness, righteousness and mercy. A few...
It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces to the East and the West; but righteous is he who believeth in God and the Last Day and the angels and the Scripture and the prophets; and giveth wealth, for love of Him, to kinsfolk and to orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and to those who ask, and to set slaves free; and observeth proper worship and payeth the poor-due. And those who keep their treaty when they make one, and the patient in tribulation and adversity and time of stress. Such are they who are sincere. Such are the pious. (al-Baqarah 2:177)
O ye who believe! When ye conspire together, conspire not together for crime and wrongdoing and disobedience toward the messenger, but conspire together for righteousness and piety, and keep your duty toward God, unto whom ye will be gathered. (al-Mujadalah 58:9)
O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).(al-Hujurat 49:13)
Ye will not attain unto righteousness until ye spend of that which ye love. And whatsoever ye spend, God is Aware thereof. (Al ‘Imran 3:92)
Say: O My slaves who have been prodigal to their own hurt! Despair not of the mercy of God, Who forgiveth all sins. Lo! He is the Forgiving, the Compassionate. (al-Zumar 39:53)
Hadith
“May he who believes in God and the Last Day do no harm to his neighbor, and may he who believes in God and the Last Day honor his guest, and may he who believes in God and the Last Day say what is good or keep silent.”
-Sahih al-Bukhari no. 6087
“The best of you are those with the most virtuous character.”
Sahih al-Bukhari no. 3599
“None of you believe until you desire for your brother what you desire for yourself.”
Sahih al-Bukhari no. 13
The Prophet said that God said, “Son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask of Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. Son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you. Son of Adam, were you to come to Me with faults nearly equaling the earth and were you then to meet Me, ascribing no partner to Me, I would bring you forgiveness nearly equaling the earth.”
Sunan al-Tirmidhi no. 3885
I'm not exactly sure where this discussion is going any more since people have showed you videos and answered your initial questions on why Christians revert to Islam and I'm sorry that their reasons weren't good enough for you.
Now, I think it's best for you to actually study the Islamic religion and maybe that would help you understand why. Even if you don't become a Muslim, at least you would be able to understand why and ease some of your discomfort.
