Mathematical Miracles of the Qur'an

[czgibson]

Greetings,

This thread is getting more ridiculous by the minute. The old 'scientific miracles in the Qur'an' argument crops up on LI with depressing regularity. It's amazing anyone still takes it at all seriously - it continues to take clutching at straws to new levels.

Peace

 

[ranma1/2]

It is you who is missing the point.

The ants are talking amongst them self
And Allah (swt) is telling us what they are saying or translating their talk for us


In some ways, ants and people are alike. Both ants and people take care of their young, live together, have different jobs, and depend on each other. Ants have all the senses that humans have but use different body parts to achieve the same goals
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So please do not balk or make fun or disbelieve when it is mentioned that Prophet Solomon (pbuh) had the ability to communicate with the animals.

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Im not sure what this posts had to do with anything.
Ants cant speak. Im not sure how any of these show they can. (and pretty much each them are scientificly explainable and understood. (the spiderman guy has a skin condition, not to mention hes at an angle)

 

[ajazz]

This is no miracle nor it is interesting this is just for the record.

Mother's Milk


"And We have enjoined upon man goodness towards his parents: his mother bore him by bearing strain upon strain, and his weaning was in two years: (hence, O man,) be grateful to Me and to your parents; to Me is the eventual coming."
(The Qur'an, 31:14)


World Health Organization (WHO)


The WHO recommends that mothers continue breastfeeding for up to two years—while giving complementary foods after four to six months—to improve the nutritional status and health of the baby

Breastfeeding for up to two years may help with child spacing since conception is less likely during breastfeeding than afterwards. This is an important policy consideration for a poor developing country, but many American women will choose a more effective means of contraception than breastfeeding can guarantee. However, if you choose to rely on this important benefit of breastfeeding, do continue to breastfeed your baby for at least two years—or until you are ready to have another child.

http://www.med.nyu.edu/patientcare/l...ChunkIID=42463

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[ajazz]

Allah has cursed him; and he said: Most certainly I will take of Thy servants an appointed portion:

And most certainly I will lead them astray and excite in them vain desires, and bid them so that they shall slit the ears of the cattle, and most certainly I will bid them so that they shall alter Allah's creation; and whoever takes the Shaitan for a guardian rather than Allah he indeed shall suffer a manifest loss.

Quran
An-Nisa 118: 119
Shakir



Man altering Allah’s creation?
How?

Genetic Engineering


Ring any bell?

In the past three decades, scientists have
learned how to mix and match characteristics among unrelated
creatures by moving genes from one creature to another. This is
called "genetic engineering."


As we saw in our series on genetic engineering of food crops,
genetic "engineers" are now moving genes around among plants,
animals, and bacteria on a regular basis, but with very little
understanding of the possible consequences, and almost no safety
testing. Now genetic engineers are starting to modify the genes
of humans, using three approaches: 1) cloning, 2) somatic cell
manipulation, and 3) human germline manipulation.

http://online.sfsu.edu/~rone/GEessays/engineerhumans.html


Human genes are also being put into animals, so that they that produce human proteins

The technology being used to create these genetically-modified animals could one day be used to genetically alter humans.

Only time will tell what the long-term consequences of this will be.



http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/science/dna/genetic_engineering/index.shtml



And verily We have coined for mankind in this Qur'an all kinds of similitudes, that haply they may reflect;

Sura #39 :27
Pickthal






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[ajazz]

See they not how we aim to the land, reducing it of its outlying parts? (When) Allah doometh there is none that can postpone His doom, and He is swift at reckoning.


Quran 13:41
Pickthal



What are the outlying parts of land on earth which are reducing?

Coastal areas!

How are coastal areas reducing?


The Rising Tide: Global
Warming Accelerates
Coastal Erosion

A 1-ft. rise in sea level could erode beaches 50-200 ft. along most of the US' Atlantic coastline,

http://www.forester.net/ec_9909_rising_tide.html



INSIGHTS: The Earth Is Shrinking

Measured by the land area that can support human habitation, the earth is shrinking. Mounting population densities, once generated solely by the addition of over 70 million people per year, are now also fueled by the relentless advance of deserts and the rise in sea level.

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/nov2...-20-insbro.asp



During the twentieth century, sea level rose by 10–20 centimeters (4–8 inches), more than half as much as it had risen during the preceding 2,000 years


The most easily measured effect of rising sea level is the inundation of coastal areas

Many developing countries already coping with population growth and intense competition for living space and cropland are now facing the prospect of rising sea level and substantial land losses


http://www.earth-policy.org/Books/Eco/EEch2_ss4.htm



Allah (swt) alone knows the true and exact meaning of all things…
All the true information or explanations that I gave are from Allah and if I unintentionally gave any wrong information or explanation it is from me and I ask Allah to forgive me and correct me and increase my knowledge

 

[Pygoscelis]

So please do not balk or make fun or disbelieve when it is mentioned that Prophet Solomon (pbuh) had the ability to communicate with the animals.

I communicate with animals all the time. I tell my dog to come, he comes. He barks when he wants to go out to pee. Many researchers have trained chimps to do sign language. Saying we can communicate with animals isn't really saying much.

Or do you mean communicate with them like Aquaman, hearing "voices"?

 

[ajazz]

do you mean communicate with them like Aquaman, hearing "voices"?

What does matter is that the evidence ants can or ever could understand concepts like 'Solomon' or 'trampled', and hence use langauge, and hence speak, is one big fat zero.

Can you prove ants do not understand concepts like being trampled?


Meanwhile….enjoy, who knows this story, might be true so
Keep your mind open and mouth shut



Man Talks To Animals -
And They Talk Back


That's what Northern does. He talks to animals. Most of us do. But for Northern, they talk back. In English. In sentence form. Verbs and nouns and adjectives
At least that's the way I hear it," he shrugs.

winter ranch in New Zealand, is in demand as an "animal communicator," acting as a kind of translator and arbitration board between pet and owner

animal experts say some humans do have a better rapport with animals than others.


Animals pass judgment

"That sort of general observation is apparent to anyone who hangs around animals," observed Dr. Pauline Yap of Companion Animal Hospital in Kailua. "Those are sorts of cliches about horse and dog and cat behavior, and generally accurate for most animals

And animals read US very well. They're very sensitive to our moods, our vibes. I knew from childhood, for example, that I had a natural affinity for animals, and that wasn't something I learned. It was natural.


So scientists and doctors know there's something going on between people and animals on an unconscious, intuitive level. But abstract communication? Real heart-to-hearts? Hmmmmm


http://www.rense.com/ufo6/dolittle.htm




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[Pygoscelis]

That's what Northern does. He talks to animals. Most of us do. But for Northern, they talk back. In English. In sentence form. Verbs and nouns and adjectives
At least that's the way I hear it," he shrugs.

winter ranch in New Zealand, is in demand as an "animal communicator," acting as a kind of translator and arbitration board between pet and owner

You don't really believe him, do you? This sort of scam has been going on for a long time. There are also "animal psychics". This is the stuff of late night informercials (right up there with spray on hair for that troublesome bald spot).

 

[Trumble]

Can you prove ants do not understand concepts like being trampled?

No. My claim was that, like every animal with the exception of man and (concievably) some other mammals such as other primates and cetaceans, there is no evidence whatsoever that they can understand any concepts at all. If you have any evidence to the contrary, as to opposed to waffle, please produce it.

Keep your mind open and mouth shut

I always do the former, and will ignore the latter thank you very much. :sunny:

 

[جوري]

Greetings,

This thread is getting more ridiculous by the minute. The old 'scientific miracles in the Qur'an' argument crops up on LI with depressing regularity. It's amazing anyone still takes it at all seriously - it continues to take clutching at straws to new levels.

Peace

This thread is from 2006. If cropping up with a 'depressing regularity' gives you a bad case of SJS, I suggest you type some other internet address in your go bar ey? I and am sure many others enjoy them and I believe the purpose of the forum is to foster Islamic ideology, juriprudence, accomplishments etc etc, not atheistic delusions. Want to be with like minds the 'progressive few', then sign up for the dawkin or atheist forums!



cheers

 

[czgibson]

Greetings, PA,

Thanks for your interest. Your support is always etc.

Peace

 

[جوري]

Greetings, PA,

Thanks for your interest. Your support is always etc.

Peace

your blasé indifference is really getting to me, there are however, forum rules against taking up webspace on nonsense and spreading muck!
Again until you have something of substance to impart I suggest you take a hike!

cheers

 

[ranma1/2]

Mr. Kettle id like you to meet Mr. Pot.

 

[ajazz]

And they said: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" Say: "Allah is certainly Able to send down a sign, but most of them know not."

There is not a moving (living) creature on earth, nor a bird that flies with its two wings, but are communities like you. We have neglected nothing in the Book, then unto their Lord they (all) shall be gathered.

Those who reject Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) are deaf and dumb in darkness. Allah sends astray whom He wills and He guides on the Straight Path whom He wills


Al-Anaam Sura #6 37:39
Translation Mohsin Khan


Animals and birds live in communities.

What’s so great?
It is easy to observe them anybody can see it.


Hey! Wait

Was microscope invented 1400 years ago?

A new understanding of these microbial communities is driving a revolution that may transform the science of microbiology

When we think about bacteria, most of us imagine a watery milieu, with single-celled organisms swimming about.

Rather than living as lonely hermits in the so-called planktonic form, most bacteria spend much of their lives in the microbial equivalent of a gated community—a biofilm.

(gated community- A subdivision or neighborhood, often surrounded by a barrier, to which entry is restricted to residents and their guests. http://www.answers.com/gated+community&r=67)


An appreciation of the significance of biofilms is a relatively recent phenomenon. Only within the past 15 to 20 years have biologists begun to examine the physiology of these microbial communities.


http://www.americanscientist.org/te...47358;jsessionid=aaaaoCSneH6wwo?fulltext=true


Even microbes live in communities!!!!!


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