Men must keep beards

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Confused0122 said:
Oh, it's alright brother. I thought you were trying to pick on what I said. lol. the reason people try to imitate Muhammad s.a.w. is because he was the one who was chosen by Allah, (we believe) and so he was the one who enlightened us and brought us the message of truth. For this reason, we respect him very much and try to be like him as much as we can. Furthermore, in the Quran there are verses saying that you must follow the Prophet s.a.w. and whatever he did.. With that being said, we find it obligatory for us to assimilate it into our daily lives.. I hope that clears it up a little.. =)
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yes, thank you very much
 
Brother, if you want, there are many good websites about Islam and other religions.. You can use it as a means to differentiate and see if you like any one of them.. There are a few in regards to how modern scientists study the Quran and realize that it confirms scientific findings and that no human being during the 7th century could have had this knowledge, therefore concluding that it may be a divine and holy book.. http://www.nikahsearch.com/marriage/modern_quran.html

http://www.islamicmedicines.com/forum/embryology-life-creation/473-quran-embryology.html
 
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Brother, if you want, there are many good websites about Islam and other religions.. You can use it as a means to differentiate and see if you like any one of them.. There are a few in regards to how modern scientists study the Quran and realize that it confirms scientific findings and that no human being during the 7th century could have had this knowledge, therefore concluding that it may be a divine and holy book.. http://www.nikahsearch.com/marriage/modern_quran.html

http://www.islamicmedicines.com/forum/embryology-life-creation/473-quran-embryology.html
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thanks, I will look at these
 
wth1257 said:
thanks, I will look at these
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No problem brother. THere is also http://www.thewaytotruth.org/
http://answering-christianity.com/ac.htm

Brother, look into these sites and hopefully the truth will become clear to you. I, myself, had some doubts abuot my religion because I would be on Anti-Islamic sites, which use rhetoric and whatever they could to take verses out of context and portray Islam as the total opposite of what it is, especially saying that women are oppressed. If you look at these sites, you'll see a comparison with quotes on how the Bible views women and how the Quran gives them the right to own their own property. They don't have to work, but if they do, they don't have to spend it on their family! THey can charge their own husbands for breastfeeding their child! Do you believe that? I didn't even know that lol. I don't want you to think this is a site plotted againt Christianity, because there are rebuttals going on back and forth between a Christian and a Muslim. http://www.answering-christianity.com/woman.htm
You can click on the blue asterisks to get to whichever topic you like, and you can see how each religion treats women.. The only reason I mention women is because the media depicts Islam as backward and keeping women down.. You can look for yourself because according to Christianty a woman was supposed to sit silently in Church.. She couldn't even speak.. They blame everything on Eve as opposed to Adam and Eve equally, as the Quran does.. Therefore, saying that women are what caused everything to go wrong. http://www.answering-christianity.com/karim/women_are_cursed_in_bible.htm
According to the Bible, women are cursed with pain during childbirth because of Eve "deceiving" Adam.. I know this is a lot that I'm throwing at you but I just hope you could look at these sites.. You'll be amazed.. You can read the rebuttals by Sam Shamoun defending Christianity.. Wishing you the best.
 
Confused0122 said:
No problem brother. THere is also http://www.thewaytotruth.org/
http://answering-christianity.com/ac.htm

Brother, look into these sites and hopefully the truth will become clear to you. I, myself, had some doubts abuot my religion because I would be on Anti-Islamic sites, which use rhetoric and whatever they could to take verses out of context and portray Islam as the total opposite of what it is, especially saying that women are oppressed. If you look at these sites, you'll see a comparison with quotes on how the Bible views women and how the Quran gives them the right to own their own property. They don't have to work, but if they do, they don't have to spend it on their family! THey can charge their own husbands for breastfeeding their child! Do you believe that? I didn't even know that lol. I don't want you to think this is a site plotted againt Christianity, because there are rebuttals going on back and forth between a Christian and a Muslim. http://www.answering-christianity.com/woman.htm
You can click on the blue asterisks to get to whichever topic you like, and you can see how each religion treats women.. The only reason I mention women is because the media depicts Islam as backward and keeping women down.. You can look for yourself because according to Christianty a woman was supposed to sit silently in Church.. She couldn't even speak.. They blame everything on Eve as opposed to Adam and Eve equally, as the Quran does.. Therefore, saying that women are what caused everything to go wrong. http://www.answering-christianity.com/karim/women_are_cursed_in_bible.htm
According to the Bible, women are cursed with pain during childbirth because of Eve "deceiving" Adam.. I know this is a lot that I'm throwing at you but I just hope you could look at these sites.. You'll be amazed.. You can read the rebuttals by Sam Shamoun defending Christianity.. Wishing you the best.
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Thank you. I'll look at the websites. :)

I'm also reading a few books by Shabbir Akhtar, Ziauddin Sardar, and Tariq Ramadan and find them all very interesting. Also I read Maulana Muhammad Ali's "The Religion of Islam" over the summer which was very interesting. I've heard the claims made by right wing Christians against Islam before (I once held many of them latently, a product of being raised in the American South, although my family is not evangelicle Christian). I suppose I find them more ironic than anything else. I mean no honest Jew or Christian can claim that compared to their texts Islam is somehow a misogynistic or innately violent religion. If they do then they have not read their own Bible. I mean I think the Christians who claim Islam is misogynistic have never read the letters of St. Paul.
 
Yeah, brother, that is exactly what I find ironic.. I was born in the US, in NY actually so I have been raised with the same nasty ideas polluting my mind about how Islam abuses women.. After actually looking into it with an open mind, I have embraced hijab and find it nothing similar to abuse lol.. It's the farthest thing from it.. I really don't blame you because I was born a Muslim and was led astray so of course non Muslims will tend to be confused with all that's going on in the news.. lol.. more than reading books, I think you should read the Quran and go on islamic sites.. Idk why but I find that books incorporate more of the author's opinion than the truth sometimes.. But that doesn't apply to everything so don't get me wrong lol.
 
Syaikh Nashir Al Albaani in one of his Fatwa brought by Ukasyah ibn Abdul Mannan, mentioned about the ATSAR about IBN UMAR, mentioned in there that Ibn Umar was letting his beard grew as much of a fistful length, and he was trimming it when the beard grew more than that.

So I hope someone who want to cancel this ATSAR to brought another ATSAR or HADITS. Ibn Umar was known as Shahaba who love to see Rasulullah in everything which he did to the detail.


Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh.
 
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Imaam Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said in al-Tamheed: “It is forbidden to shave the beard, and no one does this except men who are effeminate” i.e., those who imitate women.
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Now does that mean that anyone who shaves , Allah will never forgive them and they will burn in hell forever ?

You can quote tones of hadiths and Ayats to explain the importance of some facial hair .
But , I just cannot keep a beard as its strictly banned at my workplace and I cannot afford to lose my job for growing a beard as i have a family to feed and its not easy to get another another job ( all because and on top of it there is huge financial crisis well . Its as simple as that .

A mushrik is a person who associates partners with Allah , it has nothing to do with shaving . What about some of the races of siberian , russian, japanese , nordic ,etc ,Facial doesnt even grow on their faces. Now ,does that make them mushrikeen , just because they cant grow beards or moustaches on their faces ?
I dont think so.
 
Asalam Alaykum,

As Allah says in the Holy Quran, Obey and Allah and obey his messenger. Too many muslim do give the sunnah the respect it deserves like "yeah but it only sunnah" make me soooo angry
 
Airforce said:
Now does that mean that anyone who shaves , Allah will never forgive them and they will burn in hell forever ?

You can quote tones of hadiths and Ayats to explain the importance of some facial hair .
But , I just cannot keep a beard as its strictly banned at my workplace and I cannot afford to lose my job for growing a beard as i have a family to feed and its not easy to get another another job ( all because and on top of it there is huge financial crisis well . Its as simple as that .

A mushrik is a person who associates partners with Allah , it has nothing to do with shaving . What about some of the races of siberian , russian, japanese , nordic ,etc ,Facial doesnt even grow on their faces. Now ,does that make them mushrikeen , just because they cant grow beards or moustaches on their faces ?
I dont think so.
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Yeah I was going to say that scholars would say that you can always look for a job where your iman and religious identity can remain intact, but I totally understand what you're saying.. If you have the niyat, or good intention and would want to keep a beard if you could, then Allah is the Omniscient and All seeing.. He understands what a person has to deal with so inshallah He won't punish you for osmething like that, provided that you have a legitimate excuse.
 
Civilsed said:
Asalam Alaykum,

As Allah says in the Holy Quran, Obey and Allah and obey his messenger. Too many muslim do give the sunnah the respect it deserves like "yeah but it only sunnah" make me soooo angry
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Na'am, Sunnah are Al Hadits which is Rasullah's words, action and acceptance and Sirah Rasulullah Shalallahu 'Alaihi wa Sallam.

When we ask someone, is this Sunnah? means is this got source from Rasulullah?

While what people mean by "doing it accept ajrun while by neglecting it receive nothing" is Tathawwu', don't call it Sunnah.


Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh.
 
well, what if one doesn't have a beard, it just doesn't grow??
 
noorahmad said:
well, what if one doesn't have a beard, it just doesn't grow??
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If cant grow a beard then there is wrong on you. i.e. this is not in your control.
One should try to live according to the prophet Mohammed (PBUH) as Allah says in the holy quran Mohammed(PBUH) is a perfect example.

Muslims forget that Currcomsizm is also a sunnah but we all make sure that this is done straight away (rightly so) but things like growing beard, removing hair from areas, using miswaq get neglected. As Allah says "enter islam completely)

7 point to grooming as stated by Mohammed (PBUH)

Dont pluck eye brows
Grow your beard & Trim your mastache
Clean teeth (miswaq)
Remove Armpit hair
Remove pubic hair
cut you nail
Currcomsizm (Male)
 
just to remind you my beloved brothers and sisters...

we are not imitating our prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) we are following Allah`s commands through him ...he is a sent prophet and he is cammanded to teach us the rules of Allah`s religion Islam my dear brothers and sisters...

remember what Allah says :

[2] Your companion (Muhammad (peace be upon him)) has neither gone astray nor has erred.[3] Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.[4] It is only a Revelation revealed."

Surat An Najm
 
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true sister.. the brother is familiarizing himself with the religion so I'm not being that strict on the use of words lol. i hope he's interested more than anything else. =) Jazakillah sister though
 
well, what if one doesn't have a beard, it just doesn't grow??
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then its Allah`s willing its ok it doesn`t matter at all ....
 
true sister.. the brother is familiarizing himself with the religion so I'm not being that strict on the use of words lol. i hope he's interested more than anything else. =) Jazakillah sister though
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I know my sweet heart but it is important really important to know that we are following Allah`s orders and commands through Rasool Allah salla Allaho Alyhi wa sallam but not imitating...got me honey??

I am not trying to be strict I am only clearfy to everyone here the reason of following our prophet salla Allaho alyhi wa sallam my precious...

may Allah love u Ameeeeeeen ^^
 
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