Men must keep beards

[UmmahFollower09]

Jazakallah Khairan for pointing this out

Many people think this is not needed and it isn't "in style"...inshallah I'm keeping one too

 

[Snowflake]

jazakAllah khayr for this (not-so) confused sis

It may be a while before my son (10 mashaAllah) sprouts some facial hair. But we already talk about it and alhumdulillah he says he will keep his first beard. Awww.. mashaAllah! *love hearts* Please make dua for my son for Allah to make him a pious muslim and keep him safe from all harm inshaAllah. Ameen.

 

[Triumphant]

My beard is thin and I look funny if I don't shave it.

 

[Wyatt]

yeah I know brother, they say whatever fits their agenda, like hijab too, most girls say you don't have to. lol they obviously haven't read the Quran..

I'm sure the only thing in the Qur'an about the Hijab is Surah 24:31, which says to cover the neck and bosom with a veil. The veil could have possibly been a common cloth worn back in those times, and the real objective is to cover the neck/bosom. I don't believe it says that an actual hijab is necessary.

 

[rpwelton]

I'm in the process of growing my beard out. Before I would grow it for maybe 2 weeks at most and then shave because most of my facial hair does not fill in properly, so it looks weird. That and coupled with the fact that I always thought it was one of those "strongly recommended" sunnahs, but after much research I've come to find out otherwise.

In checking with my boss, the company I work for does not have a policy on facial hair, so I'm just going to keep growing it insha Allah and hopefully it will fill out to a full beard given enough time. Let's just hope they don't decide to adopt a new policy due to my beard growth, lol.

 

[Umar001]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem,

Hope you are well Podarok

I'm sure the only thing in the Qur'an about the Hijab is Surah 24:31, which says to cover the neck and bosom with a veil. The veil could have possibly been a common cloth worn back in those times, and the real objective is to cover the neck/bosom. I don't believe it says that an actual hijab is necessary.

What makes you so sure? You would have done more justice to yourself if you phrased it in a different manner.

Various points one should remember:

1. The role of Prophet Muhammad as explainer of the revelation.
2. The sources of Islam include the teachings which came through Prophet Muhammad.
3. The Qur'an should be understood as it was understood by Prophet Muhammad and His Companions.
4. Translations or even reading it for one who is merely 'ok' is Arabic is not always sufficient.​

Br.al-Habeshi

 

[Wyatt]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem,

Hope you are well Podarok



What makes you so sure? You would have done more justice to yourself if you phrased it in a different manner.

Various points one should remember:

1. The role of Prophet Muhammad as explainer of the revelation.
2. The sources of Islam include the teachings which came through Prophet Muhammad.
3. The Qur'an should be understood as it was understood by Prophet Muhammad and His Companions.
4. Translations or even reading it for one who is merely 'ok' is Arabic is not always sufficient.​

Br.al-Habeshi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIFEvuTqbmo

This was an interesting debate with three sides that each have points. This is where I've gotten most of my information. I only have the Spanish and English qur'an while my arabic isn't that good. (I do have an Arabic one, but I cannot understand most of it.) I cannot firmly state anything that I believe is the truth in this situation because I don't know all of it, but I do at least have that.

 

[RLG594]

I really want to grow a beard but unfortunately the place where i work ,we have all been told to come to office with our beards shaved to look neat and presentable .
There is nothing we can do.

Or grow your beard and if they fire you ask them if they want to go to court for religious persecution? (depending of course entirely on what country you live in).

Your boss shouldn't tell you to disobey your God.

My opinion on it.

Would have read the rest of the thread but got a bit fired up at about this post.

 

[Wyatt]

Or grow your beard and if they fire you ask them if they want to go to court for religious persecution? (depending of course entirely on what country you live in).

Your boss shouldn't tell you to disobey your God.

My opinion on it.

Would have read the rest of the thread but got a bit fired up at about this post.

ٍSounds like a way to get fired (indirectly). imsad

 

[RLG594]

ٍSounds like a way to get fired (indirectly). imsad

Not exactly, especially if you work for a big corporation.

My advice for Muslims in America or Western Europe who have been told they will be fired if they grow a beard is call a lawyer (before growing it), and see if you have a case. You never know...


Take the advice of the Muslim family that got kicked off the plane for talking about airline safety. They walked away with their dignity AND got compensation (though not much) from the airliner.

 

[Silver]

I just wanna say one thing. Obviously, it is sunna to grow a beard BUT i really don't like it when men grow really long beards. I don't think it's clean...u know just like they should trim their mustache, they should also trim their beard so that it doesn't become so big...

 

[rpwelton]

I just wanna say one thing. Obviously, it is sunna to grow a beard BUT i really don't like it when men grow really long beards. I don't think it's clean...u know just like they should trim their mustache, they should also trim their beard so that it doesn't become so big...

The example of Umar and other companions was to let the beard grow until it reached the length of their fist.

 

[Umar001]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIFEvuTqbmo

This was an interesting debate with three sides that each have points. This is where I've gotten most of my information. I only have the Spanish and English qur'an while my arabic isn't that good. (I do have an Arabic one, but I cannot understand most of it.) I cannot firmly state anything that I believe is the truth in this situation because I don't know all of it, but I do at least have that.

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem,

Howdy, you see, that discussion/debate when I watched it the first time left me wondering how much do the participants know about Islam first of all and second what are their beliefs in general. The discussion if you notice focused on Qur'an, the lady read a translation of the Qur'an, and then gave her opinion. "It doesn't say where in particular, just the bosom" one needs to read the original wording, what the Prophet said, what those around him understood, etc.

I was hoping someone more knowledgeable would have provided a link to the Hijab issue. If you still want to see why Muslims think Hijab should be worn then say so and I will try find some information (I'm sure you understand as a guy I don't really study the rulings of women :-[ ).

Anyhow, as for the discussion, I wouldn't take my religion from it, at all.

Br.al-Habeshi

 

[nebula]

I just wanna say one thing. Obviously, it is sunna to grow a beard BUT i really don't like it when men grow really long beards. I don't think it's clean...u know just like they should trim their mustache, they should also trim their beard so that it doesn't become so big...

sis muslim men arent allowed to trim their beards at all, the only thing they can trim is their moustache.

 

[rpwelton]

sis muslim men arent allowed to trim their beards at all, the only thing they can trim is their moustache.

See my above post. We can trim it if the beard is longer than the length of our fist.

 

[Khalisah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIFEvuTqbmo

This was an interesting debate with three sides that each have points. This is where I've gotten most of my information. I only have the Spanish and English qur'an while my arabic isn't that good. (I do have an Arabic one, but I cannot understand most of it.) I cannot firmly state anything that I believe is the truth in this situation because I don't know all of it, but I do at least have that.

I know this is a thread more directed towards men, as the topic is beards, Although my own knowledge is limited... I can paste some information, and also perhaps you could have a look at the this link where hijab was discussed?

http://www.islamicboard.com/general/134265867-hijab.html

وَلْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلَى جُيُوبِهِنَّ
"And draw they khumur all over their juyub"
(24:31)

The word ‘juyub’ comes from jilbab derived from the word ‘tajalbaba which means to clothe, a loose outer covering, it should be worn over the normal clothes. The plural is jalabeeb.
The word Khimar (khumur) derived from khamr also means to cover, the jilbab usually means the covering from neck/shoulders to the feet and khimar is the term used for everything else that is covered. Linguistically the word khimar means only a head covering. That means that the head has to be covered.

And perhaps this link too?
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/13998/hijab


I hope this helps InshaAllah, Apologies as I am aware I am off topic.
MashaAllah to all the brothers who are and intend to follow the Sunnah of our Prophet (saw) and grow their beards.

 

[nebula]

See my above post. We can trim it if the beard is longer than the length of our fist.

Bro we cannot trim our beards or cut them at all.

What is the ruling on shaving the beard or removing part of it?

Praise be to Allaah.

Shaving the beard is haraam because of the saheeh ahaadeeth that clearly state this, and because of the general application of texts that forbid resembling the kuffaar. One of these reports is the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar who said that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Be different from the mushrikeen: let your beards grow and trim your moustaches.” According to another report: “Trim your moustaches and let your beards grow.” There are other hadeeth which convey the same meaning, which is to leave the beard as it is and let it grow long, without shaving, plucking or cutting any part of it. Ibn Hazm reported that there was scholarly consensus that it is an obligation (fard) to trim the moustache and let the beard grow. He quoted a number of ahaadeeth as evidence, including the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) quoted above, and the hadeeth of Zayd ibn Arqam in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever does not remove any of his moustache is not one of us.” (Classed as saheeh by al-Tirmidhi). Ibn Hazm said in al-Furoo’: “This is the way of our colleagues [i.e., the Hanbalis].”

Is it haraam (to shave it)? Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “The Qur’aan, Sunnah and ijmaa’ (scholarly consensus) all indicate that we must differ from the kuffaar in all aspects and not imitate them, because imitating them on the outside will make us imitate them in their bad deeds and habits, and even in beliefs, which will result in befriending them in our hearts, just as loving them in our hearts will lead to imitating them on the outside. Al-Tirmidhi reported that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “He is not one of us who imitates people other than us. Do not imitate the Jews and Christians.” According to another version: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad) ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab rejected the testimony of the person who plucked his beard. Imaam Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said in al-Tamheed: “It is forbidden to shave the beard, and no one does this except men who are effeminate” i.e., those who imitate women. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had a thick beard (reported by Muslim from Jaabir). It is not permitted to remove any part of the beard because of the general meaning of the texts which forbid doing so.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 5/133

 

[yasin ibn Ahmad]

Assalaamalaikoum dear brothers and sisters,
I just want to add another view on topic.Well, having beard is sunnah.After growing it and people recognize you as a man with beard, trimming it is haraam.("Halaka" means trimming after growing in arabic).Which one is worse?Leaving a sunnah because of some causes or fulfilling it even if there is the very likely chance of committing a haraam?I am asking this because in 1920ies ,there were some cases in Turkey when scholars-Aleems were forced to trim their beard.Some of them died of its grief.And even today if you have beard you cant work in a government institute such as schools , hospitals,nowhere.So most religious people in Turkey have moustache instead of beard.Most of them have beard after retiring.You may say this is Prophets sunnah it is very important every muslim should obey it.Amanna, yes it is true, I believe it too.But here is the reality in Turkey.You cant tell thousands of people working for gov that go and find another job.
I am also writing this to make you anticipate with your Turkish brothers.Please, dont prejudge your Turkish brothers who has moustache instead of beard.All of them would want to have beard, and some day it will be Inshallah.But it is not possible for now because of the secular gov in Turkey.
Lastly I am of course in favour of growing beard as our belowed Prophet(pbuh) did.But this deen,Islam is a religion of ease.Dont make shown it a dificult one with some comments.Again I ask Which one is worse?Leaving a sunnah because of some causes or fulfilling it even if there is the very likely chance of committing a haraam?
Leaving a sunnah is not good but committing a haraam is worse than it.
Assalaamalaikoum
your bro

 

[AabiruSabeel]

The difference between us and the SaHabah is whenever the Sahabah used to come accross any Sunnah, they used to follow it, and when we come to know of any action as Sunnah, we leave it.

The Sahabah knew the value of the Sunnah in the sight of Allah, and we only know the Hukm (legal status) of Sunnah.

Say: "If ye do love Allah, Follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." [3:31]

Allah's pleasure and love is in following the beautiful life style of our Prophet (Sallallahu 'Alaihi wa Sallam). What else do we need?

 

[Silver]

According to another report: “Trim your moustaches and let your beards grow.” There are other hadeeth which convey the same meaning, which is to leave the beard as it is and let it grow long, without shaving, plucking or cutting any part of it. Ibn Hazm reported that there was scholarly consensus that it is an obligation (fard) to trim the moustache and let the beard grow.

But why trim the moustache and let the beard grow? Is there an explanation for it?