Milan mosque 'to be closed down'

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*shrug*

Rome will one day be in the hands of the muslims its inevitable. Our prophet told us that constantinople (turkey) and rome would both be the muslims. Turkey is already a muslim land... its only a matter of time before rome too will be a muslim city.
 
Brother_Mujahid said:
*shrug*

Rome will one day be in the hands of the muslims its inevitable. Our prophet told us that constantinople (turkey) and rome would both be the muslims. Turkey is already a muslim land... its only a matter of time before rome too will be a muslim city.
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And now you have the answer why more and more europeans dont want mosques in their backyards.
 
Aaron85 said:
And now you have the answer why more and more europeans dont want mosques in their backyards.
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weh weh weh :'(

im just stating a prophecy that WILL be fulfilled whether you or i or any other guy for the fact of the matter likes it or not.
 
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Brothers and Sisters,

This is simply just an excuse to force Muslims out of the region. They can package it any way they want, but the fact of the matters is that Italy had been leading this charge against Muslims for hte past 5 years. Oh, well! they are asking for it....
 
Great, so muslims have a prayer tax.
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Don't non-muslims have to pay tax too in Islamic countries? Jizya or something? Can't complain when it's happening to you dude. :)
 
Brother_Mujahid said:
*shrug*

Rome will one day be in the hands of the muslims its inevitable. Our prophet told us that constantinople (turkey) and rome would both be the muslims. Turkey is already a muslim land... its only a matter of time before rome too will be a muslim city.
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I'd like to read this verse, do you have it? Any mention of how they'd do it?
 
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Brother_Mujahid said:
if i was able to produce and show it now, would it bring you closer to the faith, understanding and love of islam?

if not then im not gonna tire to look for it.

http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=226

also a few more narrations of what will happen towards the end of time...

http://islamworld.net/docs/hour/Four.txt

hope this helps.
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Is it referring to the Roman Empire or the city of Rome?

Also, although today we call it the 'Byzantine Empire', at the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him) nobody used this name, both halves of the Empire were called 'Rome', even though the original Roman Empire was destroyed in 476 AD, hundreds of years before Hijrah.
:w:
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
Don't non-muslims have to pay tax too in Islamic countries? Jizya or something? Can't complain when it's happening to you dude. :)
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Yes, they do have to pay jizya tax. However, jizya is not a tax for praying to God. Basically, there are 4 taxes to pay in an islamic state: jizya, zakat, 'ushr and sadaqah. Non-muslims only have to pay the one tax; jizya (which goes to fund the military that protects the state and them!) so it's cheaper for non muslims to live in an islamic state. If anything, non-muslims are better off practicing their religion in an islamic state since it is the state's (and all the muslims in it) duty to protect those places of worship and those people.
 
aamirsaab said:
Non-muslims only have to pay the one tax; jizya (which goes to fund the military that protects the state and them!)
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Indeed. Non-Muslims are exempt from military service in an Islamic state, so that is their contribution towards the defence of the country.
 
Fishman said:
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Is it referring to the Roman Empire or the city of Rome?

Also, although today we call it the 'Byzantine Empire', at the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him) nobody used this name, both halves of the Empire were called 'Rome', even though the original Roman Empire was destroyed in 476 AD, hundreds of years before Hijrah.
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True, the word Byzantine wasn't used until the 16th century by historians. It was called the Eastern Roman Empire. The root of Orthodoxy and a major influence on Russia. But that is a different story. :D
 
Osman said:
Indeed. Non-Muslims are exempt from military service in an Islamic state, so that is their contribution towards the defence of the country.
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Unless you have a draft or mandatory military service that is pretty much the story in the U.S. Everyone is exempt from military service, they just have to pay taxes to support it.
 
I just wonder how big is the Jizzyah tax. Maybe its much bigger than all the muslim taxes?
Anyway non muslims still cant be in political powers thr right? So they cant have influence whats hapenning in also their country(state).
Anyway non muslims in islamic Italy wouldnt be able to change the poltical system, just like in totalitarian system. So its sux for them no matter how you try to show it.
Besides its offtopic.
 
Keltoi said:
Unless you have a draft or mandatory military service that is pretty much the story in the U.S. Everyone is exempt from military service, they just have to pay taxes to support it.
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Cool. Although I'm not sure, I'm guessing that military service would be obligatory on Muslim men in an Islamic state. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Aaron85 said:
I just wonder how big is the Jizzyah tax. Maybe its much bigger than all the muslim taxes?
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As far as I'm aware, it's smaller than the Zakat. Again, somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Osman said:
Cool. Although I'm not sure, I'm guessing that military service would be obligatory on Muslim men in an Islamic state. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I heard somebody say somewhere that an Islamic state doesn't have the right to force people into the millitary. But I can't remember when I read it.
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Whatsthepoint said:
Come one, no one's taxing anyone, they'll have to pay for the stadium, that's all.
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Indeed. My post was making a mockery out of the system: it's forcing muslims to pay to pray (close down the mosque but you can use this stadium...if you pay up)

Aaron, I'll cover the Islamic state and rulings on it at a later date - it will cover that point about jizya tax.
 

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