Mom Beats Man With Baseball Bat For Allegedly Molesting Her Sons

[جوري]

Is that better? Really? No trial, no evidence? I'm happy to live somewhere where people are not allowed to mete out justice as they see fit.

Indeed it is better than a system that makes guilty innocent based on their pocket book & social status, one that bleeds the tax payers, one that doesn't serve a swift justice nor rehabilitates the guilty. Where have you been? Read something about the American justice system and you'll be clued in as to why many would rather seek it with their own hands.
here's one just from a couple of days ago:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/0...ience-follow-not-guilty-verdict-for-woman-in/

frankly the entire 'justice system' in the west is a joke. Come again when the folks at gitmo get a fair trial, when children in Yemen aren't droned and when known killers aren't set free after an alleged fair trial.

best,

 

[sister herb]

Salam alaykum

"The justice system" in the West is meant to people of the West, the Westerner. Western justice system might be very different to the people whose live in the "East". It might differ by any political situation of the Western country they might have at that time.

By the way, have you read a story called as "The American good night story"?

 

[جوري]

I thought justice was blind and about well justice? It is unfortunate indeed that the day has come when folks have absolutely no trust in their system or their govt. What is sad is that there are folks who'd defend it still when it is so clear case after case what a sham it is.
I have fought in the system myself in a case related to a multi car accident caused on a winter day by a drunken woman, somehow and to this day I am utterly surprised how she got the other people to pay for everything & was exonerated herself from any charges. I have seen first hand how it works in something as minor as a car accident. I am frankly appalled.

 

[GuestFellow]

I'm not saying its good there's no justice system hea.

That does not mean you can go around and beat people up without any evidence.

 

[observer]

Indeed it is better than a system that makes guilty innocent based on their pocket book & social status, one that bleeds the tax payers, one that doesn't serve a swift justice nor rehabilitates the guilty. Where have you been? ,

But this was based on presumed rather than proven guilt. How can that be defensible?

 

[glo]

The legal system may not be perfect - but there is no excuse for taking the law into your own hands in such a manner on a whim and a rumour!

Innocent until proven guilty is by far the better principle than dishing out punishment on the off-chance the the recipient is guilty.

 

[جوري]

The same defense I suppose that keeps 13 and 70 year olds in Gitmo for over a decade without trial!

Best,

 

[UmmuShaheed]

Right, never mind the lady running at him with a bat. Him running says nothing about his guilt.



Glad I'm not in the east then. I thought Muslims were supposed to be all about justice? What happened to the legal system, and actually finding out if a person is guilty? You think we're allowed to just take the law into our own hands whenever we feel like it?

Muslims aren't always good representatives of Islam (sadly)
Islam is all about honesty, and the Islamic justice system .
The people in the east generally tend to trust each other more and hence why they'd all take part in serving the offender with their form of justice
(It may not be the Islamic way to deal with things, but it's their form of justice lol however wrong it may seem to an outsider)

 

[GuestFellow]

The same defense I suppose that keeps 13 and 70 year olds in Gitmo for over a decade without trial!

Best,

:wa:

Most cases are dealt with properly in countries like US and UK. Yes you get some cases where people are treated very unfairly, but these are a minority and in extreme circumstances.

Legal systems in countries like Pakistan, Uzbekistan and China are far worse.

 

[جوري]

:wa:

Most cases are dealt with properly in countries like US and UK. Yes you get some cases where people are treated very unfairly, but these are a minority and in extreme circumstances.

Legal systems in countries like Pakistan, Uzbekistan and China are far worse.

from whose perspective exactly? The west is notorious for rating itself 'just' and 'civilized' - I don't find your statement in the least bit accurate!

 

[GuestFellow]

from whose perspective exactly? The west is notorious for rating itself 'just' and 'civilized' - I don't find your statement in the least bit accurate!

:wa:

From my perspective. =)

In the UK most cases are treated in accordance with the law. There are a few cases where there is corruption and individuals are mistreated. However, there are not as common. Compare that to other countries like India, Pakistan and Uzbekistan you will see a difference unless you don't know anything about these countries legal systems.

 

[جوري]

:wa:

From my perspective. =)

In the UK most cases are treated in accordance with the law. There are a few cases where there is corruption and individuals are mistreated. However, there are not as common. Compare that to other countries like India, Pakistan and Uzbekistan you will see a difference unless you don't know anything about these countries legal systems.

In fact it is exactly the same, since east and west are running by a western drafted governance. The florid terms, funny wigs and Armani suits perhaps have disillusioned you as to who is just or fair. U.K especially is a most despicable parasite, truly the worst criminals the history has ever known!

best,

 

[GuestFellow]

The florid terms, funny wigs and Armani suits perhaps have disillusioned you as to who is just or fair. U.K especially is a most despicable parasite, truly the worst criminals the history has ever known!
best,

:wa:

No I'm not disillusioned, though you sound angry. :

All I'm saying is that in the UK the legal system is not that bad compared to other countries. It does have some flaws but it is not as bad as other countries.

 

[جوري]

No I'm not disillusioned, though you sound angry.

you must have special hearing to detect the tone of my writing.

All I'm saying is that in the UK the legal system is not that bad compared to other countries. It does have some flaws but it is not as bad as other countries.

That's your subjective opinion. I do wonder what the likes of Babar Ahmad for instance have to say about it.

best,

 

[GuestFellow]

you must have special hearing to detect the tone of my writing.

Yeah it served me well whilst studying law and working as a paralegal.

That's your subjective opinion. I do wonder what the likes of Babar Ahmad for instance have to say about it.

Again your blowing one case out of proportion. Do you really think all suspects/convicted criminals in the UK are treated like Babar Ahmad?

This is one of the few cases where the police, the judiciary and the government have mistreated an individual in order to further whatever agenda they have in mind.

 

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

If he did in fact touch those children, then he deserved what he got.

Was-Salaam.

 

[sister herb]

If he did in fact touch those children, then he deserved what he got.

Was-Salaam.

Salam alaykum

Yes IF. And if he really did something, he should get punishment from the court, not from some maniac-behaving woman.

^o)

 

[جوري]

Yeah it served me well whilst studying law and working as a paralegal.

I am not following!

Again your blowing one case out of proportion

Which case?

Do you really think all suspects/convicted criminals in the UK are treated like Babar Ahmad?

Probably kaffirs get special treatments- what is your point?

This is one of the few cases where the police, the judiciary and the government have mistreated an individual in order to further whatever agenda they have in mind.

Just one of the few cases that you've heard of is all!

 

[sister herb]

Salam alaykum

Could you two stay in topic? Or open new one to yourselves? I think you are now already quite far from that couch and baseball bat.

Now please sit down, breath a little and take a cup of tea and some biscuits...

 

[glo]

Now please sit down, breath a little and take a cup of tea and some biscuits...

Perhaps one of your herbal teas, sis herb? :statisfie