Muslim population 'rising 10 times faster than rest of society'

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Clover said:
I cannot help that, I have no right to vote...yet.

If you think I fear Islam, then your wrong. I fear that Islam's laws might make democracy no longer fair, and make the US turn into a dictatorship or something else, and make our constitution wrong. I do not know all of Islam's laws, thats why I said IF they do, not that they do.
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How about your don't talk about things that you don't know anything about?

Easy solution.
 
Guestfellow said:
An Islamic government elected is democratic process. You fail to explain how it is not democracy.

A democratic government shall represent all the views of people. Whether Muslims or not Muslims.
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Yes but once the caliphate is established it ceases to be a democracy.
 
We've gone from birth-rates to caliphates.

Maybe we should stick to the original subject.
 
Muezzin said:
We've gone from birth-rates to caliphates.

Maybe we should stick to the original subject.
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The only issue some people ahve with Muslims population rising 10 times faster than the rest of society is that in the distant future Muslims may form a Muslim government, perhaps even establihs a caliphate.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
Yes but once the caliphate is established it ceases to be a democracy.
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Now I really doubt there shall be a Caliphate. Maybe in the future but not in our lifetime.

The last Caliphate was Abdul Mejid II of Turkey 1922-1924.

It all depends on which political sect of Islam you follow.

Wiki said:
Sunni Islam dictates that the caliph should be selected by Shura[1], elected by Muslims or their representatives
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Azy said:
I have a funny feeling it also wouldn't be a liberal democracy at any point.
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Maybe insecurities since you are not aware of the topic.
 
I said if any of its laws were, I'd fight it, I have had to repeat that twice, now thrice.
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what are you opinions on things like death punishment to the rapist/murderer and interest in borrowing money being forbidden?
 
Guestfellow said:
So you are going to achieve this by reducing the Muslim population.

Good luck with that lol.
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Well, I plan to stop immigration, hope that the daughters of that somali women don't have 8 children each and that the Muslims youth will be increasingly secularized.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
Let's not take chances.
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Why not? A muslim state, Caliphate, in a muslim world, is a good thing for muslims, of course unless they are ready for this. The islamic state gives the guarantee of the eternal existence of the islamic principles and rules in the muslim world.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
Well, I plan to stop immigration, hope that the daughters of that somali women don't have 8 children each and that the Muslims youth will be increasingly secularized.
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You just agreed it was impossible to "stop immigration" yesterday?
 
Zafran said:
You just agreed it was impossible to "stop immigration" yesterday?
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In a liberal democracy with neo liberal economy it is as possible as winning World of Warcraft in one day. Its just illusions.
 
Zafran said:
You just agreed it was impossible to "stop immigration" yesterday?
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Yes and that's why I normally use the term limit rather than stop.
but it's a democracy, laws can be passed that make it possible. It wouldn't exactly fit the idea of libertarian society but that's no the model most countries of Europe are based on anyway.
 
Amadeus85 said:
Why not? A muslim state, Caliphate, in a muslim world, is a good thing for muslims, of course unless they are ready for this. The islamic state gives the guarantee of the eternal existence of the islamic principles and rules in the muslim world.
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Yes and they can have it in the Muslims word not here.
 
Guestfellow said:
That sounds like genocide. Preventing a particular ethnic background to grow, by imposing birth control?
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No, and I said it's what I hope and I believe statistically second and any further gneration of immigrants dos have fewer children than their predecessors.
And I said something about limiting state benefits that would adversly affect the country's birth rates in natives and non-natives alike.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
No, and I said it's what I hope and I believe statistically second and any further gneration of immigrants dos have fewer children than their predecessors.
And I said something about limiting state benefits that would adversly affect the country's birth rates in natives and non-natives alike.
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And how are you going to achieve all this? Are you member of a political party?

It is very difficult to change the structure of a country. The things your stating require an Act of Parliament.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
Yes and they can have it in the Muslims word not here.
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we would if your western colonists woudnt interfere - the govermnets back the tyrants up for a more stable mid east so that they can benefit from it - they dont want a Khlifate there - even if they get democratically elected - the west would be against it - that woudl also mean the militery bases have to disappear too in the mid east.
 
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