Muslim woman wins case of 'refusing to shake men's hands'

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~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
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No.1 saudi arabia and iran do not establish shari'ah, this is a lie.
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A lie? Who is lying? Am I by suggesting it? Or are the Iranians and Saudies lying?

No.2 some laws in shari'ah are compulsory e.g not stealing
But when it comes to some parts of Islam it cannot be forced, e.g praying
We do not force someone to accept Islam, so how is shari'ah forced?
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I am glad you think that. But to me it appears as if there is some disagreement within Islamic circles about the degree to which some parts of the sharia should be enforced? Is this a correct observation?
 
~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
No.1 saudi arabia and iran do not establish shari'ah, this is a lie.
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Really? Where do they go wrong? Would you agree that a lot of their law looks a lot like Sharia?

No.2 some laws in shari'ah are compulsory e.g not stealing
But when it comes to some parts of Islam it cannot be forced, e.g praying
We do not force someone to accept Islam, so how is shari'ah forced?
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Well Muslims have forced some people to accept Islam in the past. And bits of Sharia have also been enforced - what do you do with a Muslim men who is drinking alcohol in public if not force him to stop?
 
HeiGou said:
Really? Where do they go wrong? Would you agree that a lot of their law looks a lot like Sharia?



Well Muslims have forced some people to accept Islam in the past. And bits of Sharia have also been enforced - what do you do with a Muslim men who is drinking alcohol in public if not force him to stop?
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Good God, how many times do I have to go over this? Just because they seem to be implementing shari'ah doesn't make it so. They are a FASAD government, and I can't wait for the day they are booted out.
And if someone is doing something that d for society as a whole, then yes they must be stopped. But if they are neglecting their own personal duty to Allah then that is their problem. Notice there isn't an islamic punishment for not praying? But however, Zakah must be paid by those who are able. If there is a punishment for something in the Qur'an and Sunnah, that's how you know it must be enforced. Hope that clears it up a little bit.
 
KAding said:
A lie? Who is lying? Am I by suggesting it? Or are the Iranians and Saudies lying?



I am glad you think that. But to me it appears as if there is some disagreement within Islamic circles about the degree to which some parts of the sharia should be enforced? Is this a correct observation?
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No, whoever says saudi or iran are implementing shari'a is either confused or lying. Because women not driving cars has nothing to do with Islam. That's like saying the Prophet (SAW) stopped women from riding camels... it's idiotic. Please refer to my response to Hei Gou.
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~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
No, whoever says saudi or iran are implementing shari'a is either confused or lying. Because women not driving cars has nothing to do with Islam. That's like saying the Prophet (SAW) stopped women from riding camels... it's idiotic. Please refer to my response to Hei Gou.
-Peace
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Salaam

True, Suadia goverment is just messed up, they have some racist laws such as non suadia men can't marry suadia women, btw does anyone know how did law came to be.
 
islam-truth said:
Salaam

True, Suadia goverment is just messed up, they have some racist laws such as non suadia men can't marry suadia women, btw does anyone know how did law came to be.
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Are you JOKING? May Allah Ta'ala guide them....:heated: :heated: :heated: !!!!
Personally I would have a different plan for them:rant:
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some hadith on the Shaking Hands

Men and women should not shake hands outside the mahram ties.
Hadith - Recorded by Malik, Ahmad, al-Nasai, al-Tirmidhi and ibn Majah.
[Al-Albani has graded it sahih. Al-Albani, Sahih al-Jami, vol. 1, p. 494.]
The Prophet(sallallahu alaiyhi wassallam) said, "I do not shake the hands of women."

Hadith - Bukhari 9:321 (& 7:211)
The Prophet(sallallahu alaiyhi wassallam) used to take the Pledge of allegiance from the women by words only after reciting this Holy Verse: (60.12) "..that they will not associate anything in worship with Allah." (60.12) And the hand of Allah's Apostle did not touch any woman's hand except the hand of that woman his right hand possessed. (i.e. his captives or his lady slaves).

Hadith - Sahih Muslim, narrated 'A'isha
By Allah, the hand of the Messenger(sallallahu alaiyhi wassallam) of Allah never touched the hand of a woman. By Allah, the Messenger of Allah never took any vow from women except that which Allah had ordered him to take, and his palm never touched the palm of a woman. When he had taken their vow, he would tell that he had taken the oath from them orally.
 

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