Muslims Believe US Targets Islam: Poll

[England]

was it not bush who said he talks to God, and he is going to start a crusade and make a new Middle East on national tv? you really need to watch the right channels man...



US has presense in most if not all muslim countries. The CIA and FBI are working with secrete agnecies of thsoe gov'ts in seeking out and arresting and shipping to gitmo any "suspect" or anyone that dare even talk against US and this illegal war based on lies of WMD.

Gitmo has over 360 detaines, and all of them have been there from 3 to 5yrs without any actions being taken. 3 detaines recently challenged their detention and they too were denied that and the right to challenge. Bush passed laws to make sure none of them even qualify as war combatant and have any chance of international human rights. Bush doesn't want them out, otherwise all his war plans will go down the drain. How can you defend that place when your closes allies, UK, france, UN and rest of the world has condemed it and called for it to be shut down. Even red cross and humanitarian groups have called for it to be shut down. what does US do? they build two more prisons like it that are more secure and torturesome and shipped half the people there instead.

As for sleeper cells. how many sleeper cells planning was done after the Una bomber, or oklahoma bombing, or Tx UT shooting or other such events. The whole "sleeper cell" is a poor laymen excuse to basically say that we can point at any person and say that he can kill us tomorrow. Well with such theory, every human on this earthy is a sleeper cell. Everyone has the potential to get up next day and start killing. Look at VA Tec shooting incident. It's very arrogrant and ignorant of the gov't and it's lackies to go with that appoarch and single out entire Muslim population only as possible sleeper cells. Is this not war agaisnt islam and muslims then what is?

Quote us on what Bush said. I don't quite believe he would have got away with saying what you just said.

 

[Philosopher]

Right-wing Zionist Christians? Interesting. So you believe Bush's religion tells him to kill Muslims? Interesting, very interesting. +o(

When did I say it was Christianity's fault?? I argued that Bush's Christian supporters greatly influence his foreign policy.

 

[Philosopher]

Quote us on what Bush said. I don't quite believe he would have got away with saying what you just said.

You should already know by now that what Bush says and what Bush does are not always in tune with each other

 

[Keltoi]

Quote us on what Bush said. I don't quite believe he would have got away with saying what you just said.

This whole "Bush talks to God" affair started after Bush met with some Palestinian representatives during the peace process with Israel. According to one of the Palestinian officials, Bush stated that God told him to pursue his current foreign policy. After this got out on the internet and media, the Palestinian in question clarified his position and said he didn't think Bush meant he personally talked to God. As for the whole "Crusade" bit, that is simply people hearing what they want to hear. In the English language the word "crusade" refers to any mass movement or high ideal. It was not referring to the "Crusade" Muslims like to talk about many centuries after the fact.

 

[Keltoi]

When did I say it was Christianity's fault?? I argued that Bush's Christian supporters greatly influence his foreign policy.

Bush's foreign policy is mainly affected by his father's former advisors, most of which are Jewish in faith, with the exclusion of Cheney and Rumsfeld.

 

[islamirama]

Quote us on what Bush said. I don't quite believe he would have got away with saying what you just said.

On Sunday, Bush warned Americans that "this crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take awhile." He and other US officials have said that renegade Islamic fundamentalist Osama bin Laden is the most likely suspect in the attacks.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0919/p12s2-woeu.html

[FONT=Arial, Times New Roman, Palatino, Times] former commander and 13-year veteran of the Army's top-secret Delta Force is also an outspoken evangelical Christian who appeared in dress uniform and polished jump boots before a religious group in Oregon in June to declare that radical Islamists hated the United States "because we're a Christian nation, because our foundation and our roots are Judeo-Christian ... and the enemy is a guy named Satan."
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2003/1016-GodsArmy.html

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This whole "Bush talks to God" affair started after Bush met with some Palestinian representatives during the peace process with Israel. According to one of the Palestinian officials, Bush stated that God told him to pursue his current foreign policy. After this got out on the internet and media, the Palestinian in question clarified his position and said he didn't think Bush meant he personally talked to God. As for the whole "Crusade" bit, that is simply people hearing what they want to hear. In the English language the word "crusade" refers to any mass movement or high ideal. It was not referring to the "Crusade" Muslims like to talk about many centuries after the fact.

Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"\
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml

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[yahia12]

Crusade"????? yeaaah right loooooooooool

 

[yahia12]

Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"\
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre.../06/bush.shtml"

So what is wrong with that? he brings peace and freedom for the afghabni and iraqi people, and they give support to palestinians.

Usa makes peace.

 

[islamirama]

And the people have spoken!

An average of more than 75 percent of respondents across the four countries – Egypt, Morocco, and the world's two most populous Muslim nations, Indonesia and Pakistan – said they believed that dividing and weakening the Islamic world and maintaining control over Middle East oil were key goals of U.S. foreign policy, according to the survey by the University of Maryland (UM) and WorldPublicOpinion.org (WPO).

And an average of two out of three respondents named "expand[ing] the geographic borders of Israel" as a third major U.S. policy objective in the region.

By contrast, less than one in four agreed that Washington wanted to create "an independent and economically viable Palestinian state," despite Bush's explicit endorsement of that goal since before the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

Sixty-four percent of respondents in Indonesia, Pakistan, and Morocco said another U.S. goal was to "spread Christianity in the region." The question was not asked in Egypt.

"While U.S. leaders may frame the conflict as a war on terrorism, people in the Islamic world clearly perceive the U.S. as being at war with Islam," said WorldPublicOpinion.org editor Steven Kull, who also directs the UM Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA). "There's a feeling of being under siege."

Strong majorities in Pakistan (68 percent), Morocco (72 percent), and Egypt (86 percent) chose either "weakening and dividing the Islamic religion and its people" or "achieving political and military domination to control Middle East resources." An average of only 13 percent of respondents in the same three countries said the primary U.S. goal was to "protect itself from terrorist attacks."

As for attitudes about al-Qaeda itself, an average of 15 percent of respondents said they supported the group's attacks on U.S. targets; while 23 percent said they oppose such attacks but share the group's attitudes toward the United States. Another 26 percent said they oppose both its attacks and its attitudes towards the U.S., while 37 percent (including two-thirds of all Pakistanis) declined to answer. Support for al-Qaeda attacks on U.S. targets was highest in Egypt (25 percent) and Indonesia (15 percent).


But respondents made a clear distinction between what kinds of attacks they considered permissible. While an average of about half of all respondents (and much higher percentages in the two Arab states) said they either "strongly" or "somewhat" approved of attacks against U.S. soldiers in Iraq and elsewhere in the region, only a tiny fraction – well under 10 percent – said they approved of attacks against civilians, either in the region or in the United States.

Only two percent of Pakistanis believed that al-Qaeda was responsible for the attacks, compared to 34 percent who said they believed the U.S. government or Israel was behind them.


Christine Fair, a South Asia specialist at the U.S. Institute of Peace, suggested that that result may reflect confusion about the group's leaders who "20 years ago were 'freedom fighters,' and now they're 'terrorists.' Folks just don't believe al-Qaeda did this."


Full survey @ http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/apr07/START_Apr07_rpt.pdf

 

[Fishman]

I don't have a simplistic enough worldview to think that the US wants to wipe out Islam. I do, however, believe that the US specifically targets 'radical Islam', a fact which is evident from Somali, Afganistan, Iran etc., and regards religious conservative Muslims with great suspicion.

 

[Keltoi]

I don't have a simplistic enough worldview to think that the US wants to wipe out Islam. I do, however, believe that the US specifically targets 'radical Islam', a fact which is evident from Somali, Afganistan, Iran etc., and regards religious conservative Muslims with great suspicion.

That statement I'm willing to agree with.

 

[Muezzin]

Me three.

Nothing like a good survey to get everybody's panties in a bunch. I wish they'd put questions like this on Family Fortunes.

Host: We asked one hundred Muslims to blame a country for everything that is wrong in the world

Contestant: Brazil!

Host: And our survey said...

 

[Amadeus85]

And according to this survey, only 25 % of muslims believe that Al Quaeda made attcks on World Trade Center...So who did this in their opinion? My friend from Egypt said that many Egyptians believe that Jews organized this tragic attacks..

 

[Keltoi]

And according to this survey, only 25 % of muslims believe that Al Quaeda made attcks on World Trade Center...So who did this in their opinion? My friend from Egypt said that many Egyptians believe that Jews organized this tragic attacks..

That doesn't surprise me in the least.