Muslims, what do you think of Catholicism?

[MustafaMc]

MustafaMC,
Oh Jesus meant what he said and his sacrifice does indeed matter.

...however, how can both be true when they are contradictory? With what words did Jesus answer the question by the rich young man (Matt. 19:16-21), 'What must I do to get eternal life?' Now, how would you answer the same question? Are the two answers in agreement?

 

[yazan]

{
And they say: The Beneficent hath taken unto Himself a son. (88) Assuredly ye utter a disastrous thing (89) Whereby almost the heavens are torn, and the earth is split asunder and the mountains fall in ruins, (90) That ye ascribe unto the Beneficent a son, (91) When it is not meet for (the Majesty of) the Beneficent that He should choose a son. (92) There is none in the heavens and the earth but cometh unto the Beneficent as a slave. (93) Verily He knoweth them and numbereth them with (right) numbering. (94) And each one of them will come unto Him on the Day of Resurrection, alone. (95)} (maryam)



{Say: O People of the Scripture! Come to an agreement between us and you: that we shall worship none but Allah, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords beside Allah. And if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto Him).} (64)(al e-imran))


{ O People of the Scripture! Why disbelieve ye in the revelations of Allah, when ye (yourselves) bear witness (to their truth)? (70) O People of the Scripture! Why confound ye truth with falsehood and knowingly conceal the truth?} (71)


{Say: O People of the Scripture! Why disbelieve ye in the revelations of Allah, when Allah (Himself) is Witness of what ye do? (98) Say: O People of the Scripture! Why drive ye back believers from the way of Allah, seeking to make it crooked, when ye are witnesses (to Allah's guidance)? Allah is not unaware of what ye do.}


{it is not (possible) for any human being unto whom Allah had given the Scripture and wisdom and the prophethood that he should afterwards have said unto mankind: Be slaves of me instead of Allah; but (what he said was): Be ye faithful servants of the Lord by virtue of your constant teaching of the Scripture and of your constant study thereof. (79) And he commanded you not that ye should take the angels and the prophets for lords. Would he command you to disbelieve after ye had surrendered (to Allah)? (80) When Allah made (His) covenant with the prophets, (He said): Behold that which I have given you of the Scripture and knowledge. And afterward there will come unto you a messenger, confirming that which ye possess. Ye shall believe in him and ye shall help him. He said: Do ye agree, and will ye take up My burden (which I lay upon you) in this (matter)? They answered: We agree. He said: Then bear ye witness. I will be a witness with you. (81) Then whosoever after this shall turn away: they will be miscreants. (82) Seek they other than the religion of Allah, when unto Him submitteth whosoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and unto Him they will be returned. (83) Say (O Muhammad): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and that which was vouchsafed unto Moses and Jesus and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered. (84) And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter. (85)} al e-imran

 

[YusufNoor]

YusufNoor,
I didn't think you'd accept the answer but here goes. At one point in time (clearly not now in the present) it was Sacred Scripture to the group who wrote it. As for the actually person who phyically first wrote it all I can tell you is that who ever he was, was inspired by the Holy Spirit. I doubt if you'd accept God wrote it, but he did inspire it.

Peace be with you
gmcbroom

so who actually wrote it, you have no idea, eh?

IF it was considered "inspired by the Holy Spirit," wouldn't it be part of canon?

i see no response, again, to:

I forgot which but I know one man who was a relative of Mohammed's and even though Mohammed pled with him to embrace Islam he chose to die a pagan. The man was responsible for translating Old Testament and New Testament scripture.

what gives?

and no answer to:

11:3 But concerning the apostles and prophets, thus do ye according to the doctrine of the Gospel.

11:4 Let every apostle who cometh unto you be received as the Lord.

11:5 He will remain one day, and if it be necessary, a second; but if he remain three days, he is a false prophet.

11:6 And let the apostle when departing take nothing but bread until he arrive at his resting-place; but if he ask for money, he is a false prophet.
according to the Didache, Paul would be a false prophet.

ciao

 

[M.I.A.]

How come?
I thought christians (or in your case, catholics) teach that unless you believe in Jesus, you will not be saved.
Well, the followers of Abraham (pbuh) certainly did not believe in jesus. Heck, even Abraham (pbuh) himself did NOT believe in jesus.

Explain please.

I find it amusing that christians keep shifting stance on the same argument.

wow talk about gaps in knowledge, i had no idea.
where is a good place to read up?

also i dont think that writing peace and blessings be upon them besides a prophets name and then missing it out from the next prophets name is appropriate, maybe an oversight on this occasion so just pointing out.

 

[Ramadhan]

wow talk about gaps in knowledge, i had no idea.
where is a good place to read up?

what do you mean?
of course the prophets (pbut) prior to jesus (as) did not believe in him, as jesus (as) had not been born yet. The prophets (pbut) believed in One True God (tawheed)
it's doesnt require special knowledge at all.

You've asked me before where's a good place to learn Islam, and I pointed out you to this place:
http://quran.com

Have finished reading it?
If you had, you certainly did not have to ask the above question about the prophets (pbut) not believing in Jesus (as)

If yes, maybe this:
http://www.beconvinced.com/archive/en/main.php

Let me know if you've done with them and if you have any questions that's not answered in them.

also i dont think that writing peace and blessings be upon them besides a prophets name and then missing it out from the next prophets name is appropriate, maybe an oversight on this occasion so just pointing out.

Thank you for the reminder, it was just an oversight. if you look at my previous posts, I always wrote either (as) or pbuh after every prophet's name, unless there was an oversight.

However, I also would like to remind you as my brother in Islam that you should also write (SWT) after Allah (swt). I have noticed that you never do this.
Here's some of your past posts:

hat that path is and what allah has planned for us...

i know that there is a night when every living thing prostrates to allah...

allah is the founder of christianity.

I think you need to pay more attention and respect to the dzat that created all of us, rather than His creation, do you not think so?

Anyway, I do not want to stray off topic, but you get the gist.

 

[M.I.A.]

what do you mean?
of course the prophets (pbut) prior to jesus (as) did not believe in him, as jesus (as) had not been born yet. The prophets (pbut) believed in One True God (tawheed)
it's doesnt require special knowledge at all.

You've asked me before where's a good place to learn Islam, and I pointed out you to this place:
http://quran.com

Have finished reading it?
If you had, you certainly did not have to ask the above question about the prophets (pbut) not believing in Jesus (as)

If yes, maybe this:
http://www.beconvinced.com/archive/en/main.php

Let me know if you've done with them and if you have any questions that's not answered in them.





Thank you for the reminder, it was just an oversight. if you look at my previous posts, I always wrote either (as) or pbuh after every prophet's name, unless there was an oversight.

However, I also would like to remind you as my brother in Islam that you should also write (SWT) after Allah (swt). I have noticed that you never do this.
Here's some of your past posts:





I think you need to pay more attention and respect to the dzat that created all of us, rather than His creation, do you not think so?

Anyway, I do not want to stray off topic, but you get the gist.

cool, i totally misunderstood what you were saying. im glad thats sorted out anyway. and you are correct allah swt deserves all praise.. my mistake.