my friend cant handle advice

Allah said he will put us through tribulations and tests... to see who will be serious from those who are jokers... (read the opening verses of surat ankabut)............

so ofcourse.. if the sister who posted the question didnt wanna be from the people who are firm on the truth, she can twist n decieve herself into thinking dawah, enjoinin good n forbiddin evil isn't important and hence rid herself of the test (for a few years till she meets Allah).

salams

true! but boy, am I eternally ecstatic that you will not be the one judging me or others come the day of reckoning. "Da'o Alkhalq lilkhaliq"
Best in general to lead by example rather than screaming and warning. Eventually people become the company they keep, if one is a good example, one is bound to rebuff off on others without the verbal whip.
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true! but boy, am I eternally ecstatic that you will not be the one judging me or others come the day of reckoning. "Da'o Alkhalq lilkhaliq"
Best in general to lead by example rather than screaming and warning. Eventually people become the company they keep, if one is a good example, one is bound to rebuff off on others without the verbal whip.
:D
:w:


the prophet lead by example and action.... wanna giv him a verbal lashing 4 not only leading by xample :offended:

Allah said such things are a sin and people who do it get sinned, i'm not making the judgement... you are!

yes allah is merciful, but treating allah as if he's something that can be decieved n tricked isn't an easy thing, i don't think you feel sorry for people who will enter hell over sins!! you talk as if you think hell is somethign real easy 2 go thru and ppl should be free to feel the experiecne!!!!! :offended:
salam
 

I will not defend or attest against anything which I am not sure of its nature. It is heresay. Two sides to every story. Her friend could have been watching a documentary on the horrors of war for all I know Or some Japanese Anime?

take care inshallah
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Best in general to lead by example rather than screaming and warning. Eventually people become the company they keep, if one is a good example, one is bound to rebuff off on others without the verbal whip.

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you know i can honestly say from experience that this is soooo not true, at least not for me anyway, almost everytime i have made a change for the better was because so one told me to, and encouraged me to, not because i just saw them doing it.

you just have to warn ppl and tell them or else they will be clueless and just continue sinning as if nothing is wrong cos its never brought to their attention.

to the thread starter, keep at it, be strong but smart and direct at the same time and never forget the hell fire that God has promised those who do not deserve his mercy
 
the prophet lead by example and action.... wanna giv him a verbal lashing 4 not only leading by xample :offended:

Allah said such things are a sin and people who do it get sinned, i'm not making the judgement... you are!

yes allah is merciful, but treating allah as if he's something that can be decieved n tricked isn't an easy thing, i don't think you feel sorry for people who will enter hell over sins!! you talk as if you think hell is somethign real easy 2 go thru and ppl should be free to feel the experiecne!!!!! :offended:
salam

1- please have some respect for God and the prophet and don't compare them to humans who dwell in the forum.
2- I don't see anywhere in the Quran nor sunnah, where it states movies are Haram!
2- Yes Alhmdlilah God is merciful and all knowing and doesn't run the universe by your standards.
what do you know about who is going where?
have you not read of the parable of the man who accused another of sinning so much that God would never forgive him his sins. God ended up forgiving he who sinned but not the one who had vain hopes that God wouldn't forgive.

I have nothing more on this subject so you may go ahead and have the last of it, should it please you!
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From other posts, I find that you tend to dwell in generalities. I will not defend or attest against anything which I am not sure of its nature. It is heresay. Two sides to every story. Her friend could have been watching a documentary on the horrors of war for all I know Or some Japanese Anime?

:sl:

thank u every1 for ur advice, helps a lot. may allah guide us all to the right path n forgive us n make us strong in our ability to advice n see wrong from right

my friend wasnt watching somethin good, it was some kind of horror flick n she watches heaps of movies n tv shows and stuff, listens to cheap western music 2, da otha day she mentioned she wanted 2 watch some romance movie yuk, why would i tell her off for watching a good documentary? dats not even a movie in da 1st place
 
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you know i can honestly say from experience that this is soooo not true, at least not for me anyway, almost everytime i have made a change for the better was because so one told me to, and encouraged me to, not because i just saw them doing it.

you just have to warn ppl and tell them or else they will be clueless and just continue sinning as if nothing is wrong cos its never brought to their attention.

to the thread starter, keep at it, be strong but smart and direct at the same time and never forget the hell fire that God has promised those who do not deserve his mercy

Never forget that God's mercy and gentleness superceeds his punishment.

فَذَكِّرْ إِنَّمَا أَنتَ مُذَكِّرٌ {21}
[Pickthal 88:21] Remind them, for thou art but a remembrancer,

لَّسْتَ عَلَيْهِم بِمُصَيْطِرٍ {22}
[Pickthal 88:22] Thou art not at all a warder over them.
with that, I bid you well
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1- please have some respect for God and the prophet and don't compare them to humans who dwell in the forum.
2- I don't see anywhere in the Quran nor sunnah, where it states movies are Haram!

i don't c ne where saying crack cocaine is haram.... not? :X
it's called qiyas sis.... in fiqh, wats movie composed of, music, free mixin n watever else... does islam say they're haram, no? then you base the judgement on movies from there..

dere u go.. mini crash course on fiqh lol.

2- Yes Alhmdlilah God is merciful and all knowing and doesn't run the universe by your standards.

And allah also punishes people, you seem to have no fear of his punishment wat so ever!!!! I'm not condemin u 2 hell, but your behaviour is exactly like the hypocrites who keep underestimating Allah and his punishments!!

Allah says 'tell my servants that i am the gracious most merciful, and that my punishment is indeed the most tormentful punishment' u4got the bit in bold innit :?


what do you know about who is going where?

I'm not saying anyone is going to hell.. i'm just describin the actions of the ppl of hell, i quoted verses, go argue with the verses i quoted n hnadiths, not me!

have you not read of the parable of the man who accused another of sinning so much that God would never forgive him his sins. God ended up forgiving he who sinned but not the one who had vain hopes that God wouldn't forgive.

yep, where did i say allah wanst gonna 4giv the sis?!

I have nothing more on this subject so you may go ahead and have the last of it, should it please you!

ah... how ppl luv missin the point.... :uhwhat
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1- please have some respect for God and the prophet and don't compare them to humans who dwell in the forum.

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ya allah! :offended: the prophet is our example!! of course we refer back to him!
2- I don't see anywhere in the Quran nor sunnah, where it states movies are Haram!

If the content is haram, how can the movie not be haram? I dont see why you are being so defensive because lolwatever is so obviously talking about the types of movies that you said are not good!

2- Yes Alhmdlilah God is merciful and all knowing and doesn't run the universe by your standards.

AllahuAkbar! :D
have you not read of the parable of the man who accused another of sinning so much that God would never forgive him his sins. God ended up forgiving he who sinned but not the one who had vain hopes that God wouldn't forgive.

That doesnt give anyone and excuse to sin.

dont stress yourself out!! :)

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Never forget that God's mercy and gentleness superceeds his punishment.

فَذَكِّرْ إِنَّمَا أَنتَ مُذَكِّرٌ {21}
[Pickthal 88:21] Remind them, for thou art but a remembrancer,

لَّسْتَ عَلَيْهِم بِمُصَيْطِرٍ {22}
[Pickthal 88:22] Thou art not at all a warder over them.
with that, I bid you well
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xactly, the prophet done his job by being pushy to hsi uncle... but when his uncle died not listening, the prophet was sad, but done his bit, so allah sent that verse so the prophet doesnt stress about things beyond his capacity!

otherwise y was the prophet told 'waddoo law tudhinu fa yudhinoon' (surat noon), (they wish you moderate a lil so they can compromise with u)

salam
 
*raises one eyebrow* I think AnonymousGender needs to calm down. The brother is trying to help so try not to bite his head off lol :)
 
gettin bak 2 the topic... i hope the sis doesnt lose hope after seein this disagreement :(.... i think we alllll agree that she should keep it up and encourage her friend to get off her bad habits inshaAllah

'wa ta-awanoo alal birri wataqwaa walaa ta'3awanu '3alal ithmi wal 'udwaani '

(and cooperate on goodness n piety and dont cooperate on sins and opression and disboebedience of the messenger)

i hope you keep it up sis... its great being pushy fee sabililah inshalah...

"Whoever seeks the pleasure of Allah through the anger of people, Allah will make him sufficient of the plots of the people. And whosoever seeks the pleasure of people through the anger of Allah, Allah will make him a dependent on people and never attain their complete pleasure with him."

sahih.

salams :)
 
I hope that you have or marry a patient good wife inshallah. Because, I personally don't find gentleness nor patience to be in your traits.

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well then isnt it good that he wont allow his wife to sin? :? i reckon his appraoch was fine
 
lol i didnt c that post...

From other posts, I find that you tend to dwell in generalities. I will not defend or attest against anything which I am not sure of its nature. It is heresay. Two sides to every story. Her friend could have been watching a documentary on the horrors of war for all I know Or some Japanese Anime?

ok ... well besdies the fact that ur fallin bak on ur statement (first u where defendin harry porry), now ur sayin perhaps she was referrin 2 that...

i'm very very wrong and sorry if the anon poster was referrin 2 halal documentaries that didnt contain anything unislamic.

I hope that you have or marry a patient good wife inshallah. Because, I personally don't find gentleness nor patience to be in your traits.:rollseyes
take care inshallah
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ameen:D

checkout my userpage, tryin 2put up with alot :p my patience trainin ground ... ill get there eventually...:hiding:
 
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^she wasnt:

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thank u every1 for ur advice, helps a lot. may allah guide us all to the right path n forgive us n make us strong in our ability to advice n see wrong from right

my friend wasnt watching somethin good, it was some kind of horror flick n she watches heaps of movies n tv shows and stuff, listens to cheap western music 2, da otha day she mentioned she wanted 2 watch some romance movie yuk, why would i tell her off for watching a good documentary? dats not even a movie in da 1st place
 
oh i missed that too... ill pretend i didnt c it just 2 not b accused of bein quick to take bak my apologies :p
 
i don't c ne where saying crack cocaine is haram.... not? :X:
I guess it depends on what it is you do with the cocaine? Cocaine like lidocaine and benzocaine can be used as an anesthetic for surgeries. it is a poweful vaso-constrictor so can be used in neck and face surgery as it reduces bleeding and numbs the pain! So I hope that puts a dent in lots of theories? you can use a knife to kill someone and again you can use it excise a tumor? You can use TV to watch porn, and you can use it to expand your knowledge. You can use the inernet for evil and you can use it for good! Please try to establish some middle ground.


dere u go.. mini crash course on fiqh lol.:
it would be my pleasure. But I am humbled by all your knowledge and I don't think I can hold a candle to you.



And allah also punishes people, you seem to have no fear of his punishment wat so ever!!!! I'm not condemin u 2 hell, but your behaviour is exactly like the hypocrites who keep underestimating Allah and his punishments!!:
Thank you. How so very kind!

Allah says 'tell my servants that i am the gracious most merciful, and that my punishment is indeed the most tormentful punishment' u4got the bit in bold innit :?:
Again! Thank God for your presence. We need you to remind us :)

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i need help.. how can i make my point but not be seem 'pushy'?

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haha...im the one facing that and i'm trying to give you advice lol :D...but anyways...

the thing that you gotta do is tell her that as muslims it is our duty to correct one another...the strength of our imaan is shown as to how we react to the things done around us...the weakest imaan is when a person sees someone do something wrong and just thinks about it as wrong and does nothing...the strongest sig of imaan is when a person stops that wrong doing with their own hands...nw trll her that that is exactly what you're doing :D...you're not being pushy, but trying to help her come out of her darkness :)

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it would be my pleasure. But I am humbled by all your knowledge and I don't think I can hold a candle to you.

Thank you. How so very kind!

Again! Thank God for your presence. We need you to remind us :)

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Are you for real or is this dripping with sarcasm? :uuh: :? It's hard to tell.
 
Mashaalah..

Just a comment if i may. You try your best.

Allah guides not whom we love, but whom he chooses...

And those who choose to disbelieve, then do not let it upset you...

There is no compulsion in religion..

...All those are from the Quran..I honestly think that is your answer. The Quran is an amazing tool, you will find nearly all your answers in it, about life.

And...whats wrong with going to the movies out of interest?
 

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