my friend cant handle advice

[hakkerz]

btw, that Aayat about, those who choose to disbelieve. That came down to prophet Ibrahim (AS) i think, correct me if im wrong. Point being, yes we should try and try, and never give up, but keep in mind, that a Prophet of Allah, with all his piety and knowledge, was unable to make his father believe. Dont have a go at yourself if you cant change her. At the same time, i think we all have a responsibility to care for our friends, and that is certainly good, and its nice you are looking out for her..

...Take care..hope it helps...

Asking Your Duuas

 

[lolwatever]

Are you for real or is this dripping with sarcasm? :uuh: :? It's hard to tell.

nah (s)he's being serious.. i just realised, he/she one of those that hav gotten 2 the stage where they dunneed reminders too good 4 it

congrats whoever u are... came across v few ppl who r dat good :lol: i'm not one of those i must say :hiding:

 

[lolwatever]

Mashaalah..

Just a comment if i may. You try your best.

Allah guides not whom we love, but whom he chooses...

And those who choose to disbelieve, then do not let it upset you...

There is no compulsion in religion..

...All those are from the Quran..I honestly think that is your answer. The Quran is an amazing tool, you will find nearly all your answers in it, about life.

And...whats wrong with going to the movies out of interest?

salams bro, mashalha i luv the bit in bold jazak allah khayr great advise

as for the rest, all 3 points where covered in the lil discussion int he first few pages of this thread
http://www.islamicboard.com/cyber-counselling/31213-my-friend-cant-handle-advice.html

all the best akh (pls dont hack me :hiding: )

salamz

 

[lolwatever]

btw.. anon dude.. check this out.... wanna know why children of israel whre cursed?

005.078
Curses were pronounced on those among the Children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary: because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses.

and why else?... read on..

005.079
Nor did they (usually) forbid one another the iniquities which they committed: evil indeed were the deeds which they did.

so wat makes us think that forbiddin evil is an exception on our ummah?

n ur crack analysis is just lame. as if i was referrin 2 medical applications... shesh, (and anyway, the prophet said in the hadith 'my ummah's cures where not made in haram', so that throws ur philosophications in the bin too...)

sorry if i'm being harsh... but your anonymous and ur still insisting on messing around with evidences, subhanallah.
salams...

 

[AnonymousPoster]

nah (s)he's being serious.. i just realised, he/she one of those that hav gotten 2 the stage where they dunneed reminders too good 4 it

congrats whoever u are... came across v few ppl who r dat good :lol: i'm not one of those i must say :hiding:

I need my reminders from those who are sincere. Those who have scholarly knowledge. And know how to use it wisely. Those who are upright and have "roshd". And those who DON'T JUDGE OTHERS AS IF THEY HAVE GUARANTEED THEMSELVES A PALACE IN HEAVEN. Those who don't reduce themselves to finger pointing and name calling. Those who don't make visible the sins of others lest they themselves engage in folly.
If you were one to accept advise as you so claim, then start by changing your manners of speech and the way you engage others.
Mu'awiyah ibn al-Hakam al-Sulami said: 'By my father and mother, (I swear that) I never saw a teacher, before or after him, who was a better teacher than the Messenger of Allah. By God, he never shouted at me, or punished me, or insulted me.' (Sunan Ad-Dârimî)

I am tired of this imsad ! how about you?

 

[lolwatever]

I need my reminders from those who are sincere. Those who have scholarly knowledge. And know how to use it wisely. Those who are upright and have "roshd". And those who DON'T JUDGE OTHERS AS IF THEY HAVE GUARANTEED THEMSELVES A PALACE IN HEAVEN. Those who don't reduce themselves to finger pointing and name calling. Those who don't make visible the sins of others lest they themselves engage in folly.
If you were one to accept advise as you so claim, then start by changing your manners of speech and the way you engage others.
Mu'awiyah ibn al-Hakam al-Sulami said: 'By my father and mother, (I swear that) I never saw a teacher, before or after him, who was a better teacher than the Messenger of Allah. By God, he never shouted at me, or punished me, or insulted me.' (Sunan Ad-Dârimî)

I am tired of this imsad ! how about you?

salams bro/sis

i'm really really really reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeealllllllllly sorry if i name called u nefn or said that i hav a place reserved in jannah. like i am honestly n sincerely sorry 4 that if das how i came across

i must say i'm far from thinking that i'm reserved jannah! i hope Allah grants me jannah tho from his mercy ameen!!! i've got so many shortcomings its not funny... and my behaviour here is perhaps one of many...

however i kindly ask you put aside my bad behaviour n look at wat i said critically inshalah

reeeally sorry once again..

take care all the best
salams

ps: again witha ll due respect, i'm not a scholar, or even worth half a hair of a scholar, but i just quoted to you simple things from what allah n his messenger said... dawah isnt restricted to the scholars, everyone should deliver watever they know.. even if its a verse.. as the hadith said.

 

[AnonymousPoster]

salams bro/sis

i'm really really really reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeealllllllllly sorry if i name called u nefn or said that i hav a place reserved in jannah. like i am honestly n sincerely sorry 4 that if das how i came across

i must say i'm far from thinking that i'm reserved jannah! i hope Allah grants me jannah tho from his mercy ameen!!! i've got so many shortcomings its not funny... and my behaviour here is perhaps one of many...

however i kindly ask you put aside my bad behaviour n look at wat i said critically inshalah

reeeally sorry once again..

take care all the best
salams

ps: again witha ll due respect, i'm not a scholar, or even worth half a hair of a scholar, but i just quoted to you simple things from what allah n his messenger said... dawah isnt restricted to the scholars, everyone should deliver watever they know.. even if its a verse.. as the hadith said.

brother
please don't apologize. It makes me feel bad too. I am not arguing against anything you stated if you would really play close look, we are stating the same things but have very different methods in approach. I don't know that mine is correct? but from expereince I tend to find people more responsive if I approach with gentility. If I come across with wa'eed and Inzhar and a big stick, they make a 180 degree turn. that is horrible. I notice even my brother and my dad changed their methods with time. It is called wisdom. instead of getting a knife out to warn someone, they bestow gentle reminders. I know some argue against leading by example but I still believe it is best. If your friend who is loosely moraled finds you not wanting to engage in poor choices and questionable activities, he/she will eventually come around or risk losing you. As for things where there is question and may fall on the cusp of either Haram/ Halal, will it is best to MAKE IJTIHAD, and really approach with best intention. Since God looks at your heart and knows whether or not you are being sincere or deceptive

 

[lolwatever]

brother
please don't apologize. It makes me feel bad too. I am not arguing against anything you stated if you would really play close look, we are stating the same things but have very different methods in approach. I don't know that mine is correct? but from expereince I tend to find people more responsive if I approach with gentility. If I come across with wa'eed and Inzhar and a big stick, they make a 180 degree turn. that is horrible. I notice even my brother and my dad changed their methods with time. It is called wisdom. instead of getting a knife out to warn someone, they bestow gentle reminders. I know some argue against leading by example but I still believe it is best. If your friend who is loosely moraled finds you not wanting to engage in poor choices and questionable activities, he/she will eventually come around or risk losing you. As for things where there is question and may fall on the cusp of either Haram/ Halal, will it is best to MAKE IJTIHAD, and really approach with best intention. Since God looks at your heart and knows whether or not you are being sincere or deceptive

-where did i say be harsh or don't be gentle :?
- where did i encourage gettin a big stick :?
- the sis is askin how 2not be pushy.... being pushy is different to carrying a stick n kicking their guts out.

The prophets where all "pushy" they never stopped reminding theri ppl even tho dat annoyed the hell out of them, yet they where polite but firm.

i just hope the sis keeps it up inshalah... the way she's goin is just fine. did she say she was being rude or bashing them up or wat not?

agree?
salam.

 

[AnonymousPoster]

-where did i say be harsh or don't be gentle :?
- where did i encourage gettin a big stick :?
- the sis is askin how 2not be pushy.... being pushy is different to carrying a stick n kicking their guts out.

The prophets where all "pushy" they never stopped reminding theri ppl even tho dat annoyed the hell out of them, yet they where polite but firm.

i just hope the sis keeps it up inshalah... the way she's goin is just fine. did she say she was being rude or bashing them up or wat not?

agree?
salam.

It is a feeling I get when reading your post. the "you are going to hell if you do this" or "don't do this", the you are a "hypocrite for saying this", the you forget that "God will punish you for sins". The hell's fire is awaiting.

forgive me for saying and this I write after much reflection: but fear of hell's fire isn't the only reason one should lead an upright life. It is also a love of being with God, the comfort one gets knowing God is with them, It is the feeling of wellness one gets from preforming things that would please God.

You see even though we know hell exists, we also know that heaven does too. So what is your motive? fear of hell's fire or love of being with God and eternity in the Gardens of bliss.

I am not saying ignore one in favor of the other. I am saying please have an equal dose of both to give yourself balance and not drive yourself into worldly trials and tribulations. By you I am being metphorical of course. Don't be so driven by fear. Anymore than you should be so driven by taking God for granted.

Other than that I totally agree with you.
over and out. as this has gone on to all sorts of tangents.

 

[lolwatever]

salam. you didnt even answer ne of my questions.

It is a feeling I get when reading your post. the "you are going to hell if you do this" or "don't do this", the you are a "hypocrite for saying this", the you forget that "God will punish you for sins". The hell's fire is awaiting.

Instead of being all emotional, look into why i say wat i said and evaluate it. Is that what allah says or not! it's frustratin, ur goin in circles too much...

forgive me for saying and this I write after much reflection: but fear of hell's fire isn't the only reason one should lead an upright life. It is also a love of being with God, the comfort one gets knowing God is with them, It is the feeling of wellness one gets from preforming things that would please God.

Part of being on the side of Allah is to enjoin what he orders and forbid what he tells us to not do. I quoted you verses, go argue with them if you please. And tell god that he's wrong for cursing the children of israel for not forbidding evil. And you can go dictate to Allah what he should be pleased with and what he shouldn't.

That's the feeling i get from your posts.

You see even though we know hell exists, we also know that heaven does too. So what is your motive? fear of hell's fire or love of being with God and eternity in the Gardens of bliss.

Both, hence the verse i quoted a page or 2 back.. allah reminds us of his mercy and warns us from his punishment. We should be balanced. subhanallah this is way off topic man.

I am not saying ignore one in favor of the other. I am saying please have an equal dose of both to give yourself balance and not drive yourself into worldly trials and tribulations. By you I am being metphorical of course. Don't be so driven by fear. Anymore than you should be so driven by taking God for granted.

bro sis, i beg you stop it... i've covered this in previous posts already.... the sis in question is just doing her job by reminder her friend that wat she's doing in wrong. You're not encouraging her by saying she's imposing problems on herself.

It's a test from Allah and she's doing well the way she is...

I quoted verses and hadiths, When someone is doing a bad thing, you don't go telling them 'oh dont worry alalh will granmt you jannah and you'll be forgiven, keep it up its ok darling'. That's NOT enjoinign good and forbidding evil.

Subhanallah man!!! For every situation there is a way to handle it, if you do that you're no diff 2 the children of israel, once agian, go argue with the verses i quoted, don't take a go at me.

Other than that I totally agree with you.
over and out. as this has gone on to all sorts of tangents.

Good. Now khalas, back to topic.

 

[Malaikah]

Just in case the original poster needs some arguments to support her stance:

Question:
Is watching TV permitted in Islaam ? If so under what coditions ?

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

The issue of watching films is not free from numerous reservations from a shar’i point of view, such as uncovering ‘awraat, listening to music, spreading corrupt beliefs and calling for imitation of the kuffaar.

---

Hence Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Fataawa 3/227:

With regard to television, it is a dangerous device and its harmful effects are very great, like those of the cinema, or even worse. We know from the research that has been written about it and from the words of experts in Arab countries and elsewhere enough to indicate that it is dangerous and very harmful to Islamic beliefs (‘aqeedah), morals and the state of society. This is because it includes the presentation of bad morals, tempting scenes, immoral pictures, semi-nakedness, destructive speech, and Kufr. It encourages imitation of their conduct and ways of dressing, respect for their leaders, neglect of Islamic conduct and ways of dressing, and looking down on the scholars and heroes of Islam. It damages their image by portraying them in an off-putting manner that makes people despise them and ignore them. It shows people how to cheat, steal, hatch plots and commit acts of violence against others. Undoubtedly anything that produces so many bad results should be stopped and shunned, and we have to close all the doors that could lead to it. If some of our brothers denounce it and speak out against it, we cannot blame them, because this is a part of sincerity towards Allaah and towards other people.

Whoever thinks that this device (TV) can be free of these evils and can be used only for good purposes if it is censored properly is exaggerating and is making a big mistake, because the censor may miss things and most people nowadays want to imitate the foreigners. It is very rare to find censors who are doing their job properly, especially nowadays when most people are only interested in time-wasting entertainment and things that turn people away from true guidance. Reality bears witness to that.

We ask Allaah to keep us safe from all evil for He is the Most Generous.

Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

 

[AnonymousPoster]

shwo this 2ur mate, pretty powerful...i wish it wasnt caps.. but neway:

IF THE PROPHET (Peace be upon him)* VISITED YOU,
JUST FOR A DAY OR TWO,
IF HE CAME UNEXPECTEDLY,
I WONDER WHAT YOU WOULD DO.
OH, I KNOW, YOU'D GIVE HIM YOUR NICEST ROOM,
TO SUCH AN HONOURED GUEST;
AND ALL THE FOOD YOU'D SERVE HIM,
WOULD BE THE VERY BEST.
AND, YOU WOULD KEEP ASSURING HIM,
YOU ARE GLAD TO HAVE HIM THERE,
THAT SERVING HIM IN YOUR HOME,
IS JOY BEYOND COMPARE.
BUT... WHEN YOU SAW HIM COMING,
WOULD YOU MEET HIM AT THE DOOR.
WITH ARMS OUTSTRETCHED IN WELCOME,
TO YOUR VISITOR?
OR...WOULD YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR CLOTHES,
BEFORE YOU LET HIM IN?
OR HIDE SOME MAGAZINES AND PUT,
THE QURAN WHERE THEY HAD BEEN?
WOULD YOU STILL WATCH FORBIDDEN MOVIES,
ON YOUR TV SET?
OR WOULD YOU RUSH TO SWITCH IT OFF,
BEFORE HE GETS UPSET?
WOULD YOU TURN OFF THE RADIO,
AND HOPE HE HADN'T HEARD?
AND HOPE HE HADN'T UTTERED,
THE LAST LOUD, HASTY WORD?
WOULD YOU HIDE YOUR WORDLY MUSIC,
AND INSTEAD TAKE HADITH BOOKS OUT?
COULD YOU LET HIM WALK RIGHT IN,
OR WOULD YOU RUSH ABOUT?
AND, I WONDER... IF THE PROPHET* SPENT,
A DAY OR TWO WITH YOU,
WOULD YOU GO RIGHT ON DOING THE THINGS,
YOU ALWAYS DO?
WOULD YOU GO RIGHT ON SAYING THE THINGS,
YOU ALWAYS SAY?
WOULD LIFE FOR YOU CONTINUE,
AS IT DOES FROM DAY TO DAY?
WOULD YOU KEEP UP EACH AND EVERY PRAYER,
WITHOUT PUTTING ON A FROWN?
AND WOULD YOU ALWAYS JUMP UP EARLY,
FOR PRAYERS AT DAWN?
WOULD YOU SING THE SONGS YOU ALWAYS SING,
AND READ THE BOOKS YOU READ?
AND LET HIM KNOW THE THINGS ON WHICH,
YOUR MIND AND SPIRIT FEED?
WOULD YOU TAKE THE PROPHET WITH YOU,
EVERYWHERE YOU PLAN TO GO?
OR WOULD YOU, MAYBE, CHANGE YOUR PLANS,
JUST FOR A DAY OR SO?
WOULD YOU BE GLAD TO HAVE HIM MEET,
YOUR VERY CLOSEST FRIENDS?
OR WOULD YOU HOPE THEY'D STAY AWAY,
UNTIL HIS VISIT ENDS?
WOULD YOU BE GLAD TO HAVE HIM STAY,
FOREVER ON AND ON?
OR WOULD SIGH WITH GREAT RELIEF,
WHEN HE AT LEAST WAS GONE?
IT MIGHT BE INTRESTING TO KNOW,
THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD DO,
IF THE PROPHET MOHAMMAD*,
IN PERSON CAME,
TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH YOU.

 

[AnonymousPoster]

oops ijsut realised das already here
http://www.islamicboard.com/islamic-poetry/6432-if-prophet-saws-visited-you.html

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