My thanks, to all of you.

[Italianguy]

Sorry but why did they go bad? Did you tell them your converting or something?
Im just a bit confused sorry

No sorry, nothing about converting.

My wife made my family have a meeting earlier....It went wayyyy wrong, my wife walked out crying, I walked out :raging::raging: After trying to express my feelings about our amily dynamic and culture, they all blasted me for being weakimsad They said they are worried that I can't take care of the family. They told my wife we should move back to Italy and stay with our family for a while so I can soak up, so-to-speak some more of our culture and rules. So at least i can say I tried but, ....back to normalimsad I am expected to call my uncle in Sicily tomorrowhew they said he is disapointed in me and needs to talk to me? They are also calling another "sit down" to discuss my SANITY!!! can you believe that!? They are turning this all on me....as I expected, so for now......I will go back to the way I was and just deal with it...Hopefully I can appologize to them, and ask if everything can just go back the way it wasimsad


I feel worse for my wife....she asn't stopped crying, she thinks my family is going to keep me locked down and bottled up. She is now saying she wants to pack up and mve back to India. She said her family wouldn't do this to me, and we could stay there.....she wants to go home

 

[AlbanianMuslim]

Sorry that you are going through such a rough time. I hope it gets better for you.
Stay strong.

 

[★ηαѕιнα★]

Thats shocking seriously. I didnt know this could get out of hand this much. And I didnt know Italian culture was like this...even more macho then Arab cultures. I can understand why though. In Italy the weakest familys suffer right? And the strong familys survive. Your family is in survivalmode, maybe always has been. Until it became a part of their culture. Maybe your family should be remembered you guys arent in Italy atm.
I dont know what to say actually. I just feel very sorry for you atm. I can only say ill keep making dua for you.

Salaam

 

[Cabdullahi]

hope for the best?

 

[Italianguy]

hope for the best?

Thank you Abdullahii.

God be with you.

 

[Italianguy]

Thats shocking seriously. I didnt know this could get out of hand this much. And I didnt know Italian culture was like this...even more macho then Arab cultures. I can understand why though. In Italy the weakest familys suffer right? And the strong familys survive. Your family is in survivalmode, maybe always has been. Until it became a part of their culture. Maybe your family should be remembered you guys arent in Italy atm.
I dont know what to say actually. I just feel very sorry for you atm. I can only say ill keep making dua for you.

Salaam

Oh yeah, it can get worsehew I applogised to them and just told them i was having a tough time with workimsad.....Hopefully it can just go back to normal now:hmm:....wether it be good or bad, I will just deal with it.

Italian culture differes on region and culture it's not all like what you see on TV. The bigger city's like Palermo, Milan, and Venice are more liberal and then there's always Vatican city.....which is in a world of it's own.

We come from a soldiers backround, or military, from as far back as the Roman Empire. So that is in our culture some. We have not really evolved much in a long time, the elders try to keep us from being "Westernized" ...."Just in case" ,why they say just in case...I don't know? They hold our family traditions and culture very close to heart. They do not deviate from faith and cultural belief.

My elders are fighters through and through. The men NEVER cry or show any weakness.

I laugh sometimes, I think they think the Roman and Mughal empires will rise again?

Overall my family are awesome, they are sincere about family and it doesn't matter what race or faith you are after you become part of the family. To them, when you are married, you(meaning my wife) are blood related and they would die for you!

 

[Woodrow]

Oh, the pleasures of "Old Country" culture.

The thing to always remember is the importance of the values that are placed upon family and loyalty to family. You have to have admiration for the dedication placed on protecting all aspects of the family.

Often times we have to keep our own life separated from the traditional family cultures. This does not mean fighting or disobeying family culture. It means using the family strengths and adapting them to fulfill one's own needs. If you approach family from strength and not of disagreement, you can often get support from the family. but, the important thing to make them understand is that you will always be willing to help any family member in need.

It is difficult to be the pioneer and having to be the one who sets the pace for improvements of family traditions, without damaging family ties.

My prayers are for you to find peace and resolution during these trials and may they be the steps that lead you to happiness.

 

[CosmicPathos]

Oh yeah, it can get worsehew I applogised to them and just told them i was having a tough time with workimsad.....Hopefully it can just go back to normal now:hmm:....wether it be good or bad, I will just deal with it.

Italian culture differes on region and culture it's not all like what you see on TV. The bigger city's like Palermo, Milan, and Venice are more liberal and then there's always Vatican city.....which is in a world of it's own.

We come from a soldiers backround, or military, from as far back as the Roman Empire. So that is in our culture some. We have not really evolved much in a long time, the elders try to keep us from being "Westernized" ...."Just in case" ,why they say just in case...I don't know? They hold our family traditions and culture very close to heart. They do not deviate from faith and cultural belief.

My elders are fighters through and through. The men NEVER cry or show any weakness.

I laugh sometimes, I think they think the Roman and Mughal empires will rise again?

Overall my family are awesome, they are sincere about family and it doesn't matter what race or faith you are after you become part of the family. To them, when you are married, you(meaning my wife) are blood related and they would die for you!

oh so its not only desis who do not want their family values to be lost to "westernization."

I hope you are doing good emotionally.

 

[Italianguy]

oh so its not only desis who do not want their family values to be lost to "westernization."

I hope you are doing good emotionally.

Of course i am brother....I am not allowed to have emmotion remember.

Thank you for your concern, you have a kind heart. May God bless you with peace and happiness.

Your right, you should hear my wifes parents talk about westerners....mg: I won't say anything, YOU know what I am talking about......Ahmedeekans;D:nervous:

You can take the Indian out of India....But you can't take India out of the Indian.lol I wouldn't want to anyway.

 

[CosmicPathos]

Of course i am brother....I am not allowed to have emmotion remember.

Thank you for your concern, you have a kind heart. May God bless you with peace and happiness.

Your right, you should hear my wifes parents talk about westerners....mg: I won't say anything, YOU know what I am talking about......Ahmedeekans;D:nervous:

You can take the Indian out of India....But you can't take India out of the Indian.lol I wouldn't want to anyway.

Yes, they are very patriotic. That is why its very hard to differentiate between Hinduism and Indian culture. They are intertwined heavily. And that is precisely why Hindu reverts to Islam go through so much trouble, it is seen as rebellion for whatever being an Indian stands for: Hinduism, family values, culture, history, ethnicity.

Anyways, I hope your elders understand that old times have gone, we stare into an unknown future.

 

[Italianguy]

Yes, they are very patriotic. That is why its very hard to differentiate between Hinduism and Indian culture. They are intertwined heavily. And that is precisely why Hindu reverts to Islam go through so much trouble, it is seen as rebellion for whatever being an Indian stands for: Hinduism, family values, culture, history, ethnicity.

Anyways, I hope your elders understand that old times have gone, we stare into an unknown future.

LOL, My elders will never get out of the Roman empire mode of thought. Honestly.....I like it:embarrass It keeps us from becoming liberal and westernised. I nor they hate the US or "Amreekans" they just hate how the westernised countries forget faith and worship themselves as masters of the universe....and then say "God made me do it" when they should be saying "Il diavolo (the devil) made me do it" . ...their words, not mine.

 

[Italianguy]

Yes, they are very patriotic. That is why its very hard to differentiate between Hinduism and Indian culture. They are intertwined heavily. And that is precisely why Hindu reverts to Islam go through so much trouble, it is seen as rebellion for whatever being an Indian stands for: Hinduism, family values, culture, history, ethnicity.

Anyways, I hope your elders understand that old times have gone, we stare into an unknown future.

The future can be told if we just look at what the human race is doing to religion in all faiths.....and it doesn't look good for our futureimsad I feel sorry for my kids, kids. It looks bleek for them.

 

[CosmicPathos]

The future can be told if we just look at what the human race is doing to religion in all faiths.....and it doesn't look good for our futureimsad I feel sorry for my kids, kids. It looks bleek for them.

yea man. Especially with the increasing number of atheists in South Asia.

 

[Italianguy]

yea man. Especially with the increasing number of atheists in South Asia.

I know, it's sadimsad So many are becoming unbelievers. I think in 100 years Christians and Muslims will be the only ones left.

 

[★ηαѕιнα★]

What about Jews. Are the dying out or so? I dont think I ever came across a Jew in my whole life now I think of it..
I know from a book I red that when Judgement Day comes there will be no single believer in this world. So us believers are actually preventing that day from coming (and Allah swt ofcourse).

 

[Woodrow]

What about Jews. Are the dying out or so? I dont think I ever came across a Jew in my whole life now I think of it..
I know from a book I red that when Judgement Day comes there will be no single believer in this world. So us believers are actually preventing that day from coming (and Allah swt ofcourse).

Many people in the US have never come across of any Jews, and nearly half of the world's Jews live in the US. Most of the US states have a zero Jewish population.

Worldwide the number of Jews is very small.

The worldwide Jewish population is 13.3 million Jews. Jewish population growth worldwide is close to zero percent. From 2000 to 2001 it rose 0.3%, compared to worldwide population growth of 1.4%.

SOURCE: http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/world-jewish-population.htm

 

[Italianguy]

aww...italianguy... you have a spiritual heart thats why you're feel the way you're suppose to feel. You should feel blessed since not everyone has a soft heart and be spiritual like you. You're in the crossroads...and lots of people are like you when come to the crossroads. So just bear in mind that you're not alone .

And about meeting us... you can always make a dinner party and invite us all lol

LOL, I didn't see the dinner party part. My wife would love it! She loves to cook! Now i have to find a way to tell her she has to make 10,000 samosas;D, Chapatis, biryani, Naan, chicken tikka marsala, Pallak Paneer and for desert, some Kheer!....I love kheer:statisfie

Go ahead and place your orders;D Now I have to find a place to do thishew

God be with you

 

[Danah]

I ask Allah to open your heart to the truth which will clarify all your doubts and grant you the inner peace you are looking for very soon.

I wish things work for you I.G with family.

 

[Italianguy]

I ask Allah to open your heart to the truth which will clarify all your doubts and grant you the inner peace you are looking for very soon.

I wish things work for you I.G with family.

Many thanks to you sis:embarrass I will keep all of you in my prayers as well, as I always do.

 

[Italianguy]

Well, things got a little out of hand today....and a little funny for a change. We had a sit down with some of my uncles, aunties, mother and brothers. It started off heated, and then......my brother, younger brother i might add, said to my mother "Le donne, tiene la sua lingua, finché lei ha il permesso per parlare! Translated basically he told my mother to shut up until she has permission to speak!hew......so as he walked away crying and bruised in the face:hiding:...i couldn't help but laugh my a** off. .....That didn't help either.