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[siFilam]

In The Name of Allah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful

:salamext:

sister Talibatul Ilm,
Jazakallah Khair for the explanination of Tasghir.

regarding 3 different categories of words that are used in the feminine form, I'm confused, do you mean this:

1) when Ta Tanith present at the end of the word
2) when Alif Maqsura Zaeeda present
3) when Alif Mamdudah present

when these signs are present the noun is categorized as feminine.
other feminine nouns don't have these apparent signs, but we know they are feminine b/c thats how the arabs use it. ex. earth or sun in Arabic.

wasalam
-SI-

 

[ahm001]

ok as for a new question:

Name at least 3 different categories of words that are used in the femanine form [i.e. like a word denoting femanine gender UKHT, UMM... or Names of various types of winds are in the femanine form]

try for 3 inshaAllah =) or it can be done as a group effort as well!

salams

1) parts of the body which r found in pairs e.g eyes ears
2) names of towns and places
3):thumbs_up

 

[IceQueen~]

:salamext:

you can write your stuff in Arabic here

my Question:

when an إضافة becomes a 'name' for something then it becomes ممنوع من الصرف
...how?

As in how does this work? I found it in some old notes and I can't remember it properly...Is this true? (I'm not sure whether I made a mistake in copying it down or what)

 

[amirah_87]

I have thought about this over and over again subhanAllah, & Ive never come across what you had just said there..

Maybe I'm missing something out.... Allah knows best.

Or perhaps I haven't fully understood your question...

Hmm..Allahu a'lam

 

[IceQueen~]

ok lemme see..
the example that I had written was this رام الله

it said that when an idaafa becomes a name for something it becomes a diptote (mamnuu3 min al-sarf)

'Allah' in the above example was highlighted and it was manSub (fatha at the end)

and there was a في before it (رام الله )

'Raama' is a verb isn't it?

does that make any better sense...?

 

[Talibatul Ilm]

salams

1) parts of the body which r found in pairs e.g eyes ears
2) names of towns and places
3):thumbs_up

sorry for responding so late! i thought i had already =x
but yea that was the response i was looking for! except for #3... lol

 

[asadxyz]

Assalaamo Alaikum:

ok lemme see..
the example that I had written was this رام الله

it said that when an idaafa becomes a name for something it becomes a diptote (mamnuu3 min al-sarf)

'Allah' in the above example was highlighted and it was manSub (fatha at the end)

and there was a في before it (رام الله )

'Raama' is a verb isn't it?

does that make any better sense...?

What is the source of this information ???
Best of luck

 

[kormath]

any one learning nahw? able to help each other

Insha'allah, Iam a Arabic nahv teacher. I think that I can help you in it

 

[kormath]

Nahw is getting confusing and sarf basically were so behind but the book i'm studying from for nahw is called 'Lisaanul Quran' anyone herd of it? and sarf 'tasheel as-sarf 'Easy Etymology' :S

ma'salamah

sis, I want to know more about Lisanul Qura'an. Do u help me plz?

 

[kormath]

Also , inform me about "thasheelussarf".

 

[asadxyz]

Assalaamo Alaikum:

Insha'allah, Iam a Arabic nahv teacher. I think that I can help you in it

Please can you comment on the following post :

Originally Posted by IceQueen~  
ok lemme see..
the example that I had written was this رام الله 

it said that when an idaafa becomes a name for something it becomes a diptote (mamnuu3 min al-sarf)

'Allah' in the above example was highlighted and it was manSub (fatha at the end
and there was a في before it (رام الله )

Thanks in advance

 

[IceQueen~]

^ yey can someone please comment on that...?

oh the other thing is- could it be something to do with compound words?

I mean does hadra mawt come into that category?

maybe what its meant to be is mabni (indecinable) not a mamnu3 min al-sarf (diptote)...

 

[asadxyz]

Assalaamo Alaikum :
Here is a Question just for practice.
What is the difference between use of أنّ بالكسر & أنّ بالفتح ??
Best of luck

 

[IceQueen~]

you mean 'Anna and 'Inna?

If so 'Anna is used in the middle of a sentence and 'Inna in the beginning or after
the verb Qaala (to speak)....?

 

[asadxyz]

you mean 'Anna and 'Inna?

If so 'Anna is used in the middle of a sentence and 'Inna in the beginning or after
the verb Qaala (to speak)....?

Excellent !
Now another question :
What is the difference between meaning :
أكلت السمك حتى رأسها
If I read Ra'asihaa ??
If I read Ra'asahaa??
Best of luck

 

[IceQueen~]

If you read Ra'asahaa - حتى is being used as حرف عطف (particle of connection) so رأس would have the same I'raab as السمك (it is مفعول به )


and if you read Ra'asihaa - حتى is being used as حرف جر بمعنى إلى (particle of 'jar' with the meaning of 'to')

So first meaning: I ate the fish even the head

and second: I ate the fish till the head

Jazakallah Khair

btw Have you studied the subject of مبتدأ و خبر in detail...?

If you have can you explain the different concepts please?

 

[asadxyz]

Assalaamo'Alaikum Sister ICe Queen
Excellent! It shows that you know a lot about Arabic Grammar.I am just a beginner in this field.BTW if you have some thing special in your mind about مبتدا و خبر please do post so that we can discuss it .
Best of luck

 

[amirah_87]

Excellent !
Now another question :
What is the difference between meaning :
أكلت السمك حتى رأسها
If I read Ra'asihaa ??
If I read Ra'asahaa??
Best of luck

I'd just like to add something on the I'raab of "أكلت السمكة حتى رأسها "

Ra's here can be either: Marfuu' ,Mansuub or Majruur..

-It's Marfuu' if "Hattaa" here is "Hattaa al-Ibtidaa'iyyah": in this case whatever comes after it becomes marfuu' aswell so the julmah would be: "Akaltus-samaka hattaa ra'suhaa"..
(Its Khabr here is Mahduuf its taqdeer is: "Ma'kuul" )

-If it's Mansuub then that's because Hattaa here is hattaa al-'aatifah (like the other huruuf al-atf: waaw..etc).
So Ra's would be mansuub because it's Ma'tuuf 'alaa "Samakata" which is mansuub because it's maf'uulu bihii.

-If Ra's was Majruur then that's because "hatta" here is harf jarr yufeed al-ghaayah, like "Ilaa". So what comes after it, is Majruur.

WallAllaahu ta'alaa a'laa wa a'lam.

 

[IceQueen~]

^MashaAllah Jazakallah Khair

and bro asadxyz no, I haven't really studied the details of مبتدا و خبر so I was wondering if anyone here could help...?

hey amirah87- can you help if you're not too busy..?
InshaAllah

 

[amirah_87]

I'm going to give a short Ikhtisaar on the Mubtada' & Khabr inshaAllah:

The Mubtada' and Khabr are two words (nouns) that are Marfuu' and together make up a beneficial sentence (Jumlatun mufeedah).

In its originality it is known that the Mubatada' comes before its' Khabr, but the khabr can also come before the mubatada' in some haalaat (situations).


From the conditions of the Mubtada:

- Has to be Ma'rifah (but it can be Nakirah in some cases).

These are some of the cases it's used in:

- It comes Man'uut. صبرٌ جميلٌ، خير من استرحامِ ظالم

-when it's found to come after it a Mudhaaf ilayh طَلَبُ عِلْمٍ خيرٌ من طَلَبِ مال

- When it's found to come before it a Shabh jumlah / شبهُ جملة (Jaar wa Majruur & Dharf) : عندنا ضيفٌ، وفي البيت كتابٌ


And from the conditions of the khabr is that;

It (The Khabr) follows the Mubtada In it's Singularity, Duality, Plurality, Masculinatiy & femeninty.
(and we exclude from this if the Mubtada' was Mushtaqq..)


Hope that helps inshaAllah.

If anyone wants to add anything please do, and if there are any mistakes please point them out.