Non-Muslims and Islam

[h-n]

Wrong. I am critical of people that hate other people based on their religion.

I find it wrong.

A nice person sent me THIS LINK. I prefer this version of Islam over the hate-filled version you and mad-scientist and others preach.

See how stupid that statement is, sinners say it thinking they have a case against Islam. You say that to say that you are kind? When you are being evil. Your willing to quote anything, which you yourself have not thought much about. We are created by Allah, it is natural for us to go against evil, lewd, homosexuals etc are evil.

WE are critical of people who SIN, what else do you think happened that;-

1. the sinners were saved from the flood,
2. that the homosexuals were not destroyed at the time of Prophet Lut peace be upon him?
3. that we are going to start making friends with Satan too? Nevermind about what Allah has taught us about him.

You are in error, and disgusting, you call yourself a Man? At least Muslims Men forbid evil and enjoin good. Your sitting their not saying anything against lewd behaviour, homosexuality etc, and you think you have something to say for yourself?? You can't even say anything against evil, even a Muslim woman is doing better at going against evil then you are.

Go and complain on the Day of Judgement that Allah should be sending all the sinners to Paradise. Go and stand with the idol worshippers, homosexual on that Day, and be thrown into Hell with them.

 

[titus]

You are in error, and disgusting, you call yourself a Man?

How am I disgusting? Please answer this, I want to know. Does simply not being a Muslim make me disgusting?

 

[h-n]

How am I disgusting? Please answer this, I want to know. Does simply not being a Muslim make me disgusting?

Why are you keep on picking and choosing what I say, obviously I have mentioned because you do not enjoin good and forbid evil. To go against idol worship, lewd behaviour, homosexuality etc. Of course your disgusting. What else do you think that people are going to call if you if you go to Hell? A lovely person? Of course not. Even a donkey is in a better position then you, as at least it accepts the one God.

What would you say to Prophet Jesus peace be upon him? That he should not go against sinful behaviour?? Of course your disgusting, your not on the good side, your just showing to people that if you lived at the time of Prophet Noah peace be upon him you would have been drowned.

 

[titus]

Why are you keep on picking and choosing what I say

Because most of it is repetitive and there is no need. I know that in almost every post you will bring up Noah, Lut or Ibrahim and the same stories (flood, homosexuals, etc.). Why repeat myself?

you do not enjoin good and forbid evil

In other words because I am a non-Muslim I am disgusting, right?

If that is not true then say so. If it is true then please be honest and come out and say so.

As for good and evil, we have different opinions on those criteria. I don't hate someone because of their religion. I find that evil. You, on the other hand, believe it is your religious duty to hate people because of their religion.

Of course your disgusting. What else do you think that people are going to call if you if you go to Hell?

A lost soul. ****ed. Unsaved. Doomed. Unredeemed. Ill fated.

To go against idol worship, lewd behaviour, homosexuality etc. Of course your disgusting.

I am not a homosexual nor do I worship any idols.

 

[Muslimeen]

I don't know why many non muslims feel muslims hate them.
Islam is not about hate, it is about love. I suppose they feel we hate them because we don't agree with their beliefs. It is true, we don't agree with their beliefs and never will, does this mean we hate them?
No it does not, islam teaches, "hate the deed, not the man".
That is why when a non muslim reverts to islam we treat him as brother, with love, respect and dignity and forget everything before that. We are prepared to give our lives for them.
Perhaps they see us giving invitation to them to accept islam as a sign of hatred, this obviously cannot make sense. Would you ever invite anyone into your home or family if you hate that person??
So why do we invite them into the fold of Islam?
Because we love them and do not want to see them suffer in the afterlife, we want them to be the owners of paradise and not hellfire. The torments of hell are so great that we cannot and do not want to see any person suffering this ill fate. We want you to enjoy the fruits of paradise, if we hated you we would have just ignored you and left you to your devices and to the ultimate abode of hell.
The noble prophet Muhammad Sallalahu Allaihi Wassalam has left us with this duty to assist and guide people to the straigt path i.e The path to paradise.
There may be some muslims who portray hatred towards non muslims, but then they speak as individuals not as a nation. May Allah guide us. Ameen.

 

[titus]

I don't know why many non muslims feel muslims hate them.

I don't feel that most Muslims hate me. In real life I have many Muslim friends and acquaintances and have gotten along great with all of them. On these forums, though, you have people that thrive on the anonymity of the internet and who feel free to publish their socially unacceptable beliefs.

Perhaps they see us giving invitation to them to accept islam as a sign of hatred

Not at all. People I respect on this forum, and others in real life, have invited me to accept Islam. I have graciously declined and harbor no ill will at all. In fact I have always looked upon such invitations as compliments.

No, the signs of hatred I see on this forum are the obvious ones. They are the few that insult all non-Muslims who disagree with them instead of discussing issues rationally, and the ones like h-n who do not attempt to hide the hatred and disgust they feel for all non-Muslims.

 

[Muslimeen]

I understand how you feel, and respect that. There is no compulsion in Islam.
It is unfortunate that some people become emotional and start behaving irrationally.
I am in no position to condemn anyone as I am not aware of what has transpired between h-n and yourself. My suggestion would be to make peace and start fresh in the good spirit of humanity.

 

[h-n]

Because most of it is repetitive and there is no need. I know that in almost every post you will bring up Noah, Lut or Ibrahim and the same stories (flood, homosexuals, etc.). Why repeat myself?
In other words because I am a non-Muslim I am disgusting, right?

If that is not true then say so. If it is true then please be honest and come out and say so.

As for good and evil, we have different opinions on those criteria. I don't hate someone because of their religion. I find that evil. You,
on the other hand, believe it is your religious duty to hate people because of their religion.

A lost soul. ****ed. Unsaved. Doomed. Unredeemed. Ill fated.

I am not a homosexual nor do I worship any idols.

Of course I am going to continue to talk about Prophets Lut, Ibrahim Noah peace be upon them.

You keep on saying that if people hate others for a religious reason then that is wrong, so what are you saying its OK to hate someone for something else?? How shall we treat Satan? Our religious reason is a personal reason anyhow. What do you expect Servants of Allah to be? Not believe wholeheartedly on what is right or wrong. There is no difference of opinions on what is good or evil. Sinners say anything to change things to make it acceptable.

You keep on saying I use the internet to hide, if that is they case then why did I choose a Muslim website, to specifically talk to Muslims?? You talk about social unacceptable views, you a sinner are only proving that;-

1. If you were alive at the time of Prophet Jesus peace be upon him you would have stood idly by when they tried to kill him.

2. If you were alive at the time of Prophet Lut peace be upon him you would have stood idly by when the homosexuals invaded his home.

3. What would you even say to Prophet Jesus peace be upon him? That its not right that good people don't like evil people? He would not accept idol worshippers, homosexuals etc.

4. Do you think that Allah gave Men wives, horses to ride upon, and to be able to sail the seas so that they don't forbid evil?

5. Do you really think a women takes care of a Man for being a sissy and not willing to fight in the name of God and forbid evil?

6. What do you think a Man's job is to sit there like a woman and talk about what is right or wrong, you have to go further and say to people that I don't accept homosexuality or idol worship (but your just distancing yourself by saying that you are not a homosexual or an idol worshipper, to be on the safe side so you won't be criticised.) Again you are not right, as this is not what the Prophets did. Are you going to say that Prophets Noah, Lut, Ibrahim, Moses, Jesus peace be upon them are wrong for going against idol worship and homosexuality?

7. Of course your pathetic and disgusting, if you can't see what your doing to your own soul now you will when you go to Hell. You forbid evil, and not just say I am not a homosexual, idol worshipper etc. This is what evil people like to do, they like to say that I am not part of this, so they won't be attacked, or be criticised, that is why they did not help the Prophet Jesus peace be upon him.

8. There is no difference to you complaining that;-

-Prophet Jesus peace be upon him hated idol worship, homosexuals etc
-Prophet Ibrahim peace be upon him hated idol worship, homosexuals etc
-Prophet Moses peace be upon him hated idol worship, homosexuals etc.


So before you post anymore ridiculous comments talk about what the Prophets would have accepted, and then tell us that we are wrong for hating idol worship, homosexuality etc. I best mentioned it may obviously come up, yes the Prophets spoke in the best possible way to sinners, but that still does not change the fact that they hated idol worship, homosexuality etc.

 

[aamirsaab]

Ok just so everyone is clear, a non-muslim is still a human being. Please treat one another with basic civility.

The purpose of this forum was, and always will be da'wah. That is to explain and help guide people towards Islam. It is not a grounds for verbally or intellectually abusing one another. Take that crap elsewhere. Or better yet, quit it altogether because it is a disgusting habit.