Non-Muslims to be allowed to live in part of Medina

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Do you agree with the decision to allow non-Muslims live in Madinah?

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Salaam

I would be wary about using wiki as a reliable source.

I think the only real reason non muslim are allowed in the two cities is for work purposes only, but the point is, its a holy site, for Muslims, a sanctuary so to speak for Muslims. We dont want it to become a tourist site.
 
Yes anyone can live anywhere. This is a free world for the human beings.
 
No you can't live anywhere.. You need to have regard for laws and the properties of others. You can't for instance live in the white house because it is a free world- it is an unrealistic ridiculous view of someone who hasn't matured to grasp how things work!

all the best
 
yup anyone can live in medina.. no rule in Islam saying that we cant. Islam says we can share with non muslims so nothing wrong with this.

All the best. lol
 
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SMA89 said:
Yes anyone can live anywhere. This is a free world for the human beings.
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Brother, looks like you are infected with democracy virus. There is no such thing as free world in Islam. Everything has limits and rules. Only animals live in a "free world". I dont care if its for work purposes or not. They should be 500 miles away from the haramain. Their presence is a fitnah.
 
shuraimfan4lyf said:
Brother, looks like you are infected with democracy virus. There is no such thing as free world in Islam. Everything has limits and rules. Only animals live in a "free world". I dont care if its for work purposes or not. They should be 500 miles away from the haramain. Their presence is a fitnah.
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This is wrong. Allah gave us freewill, we have the right to choose whatever we want whether its good or bad. Non-muslims are still human beings Allah created so how can you neglect them from this world? I live life without any limits, which gives me a PEACE of mind. Isnt Islam the religion of PEACE?
 
I don't need to tell anyone how is my respect to non-muslims people. But in this case, I totally disagree with Saudi King decision to allow non-muslims live in Madinah. There are many Islamic sites where non-muslims can visit those. But let Makah and Madinah are special for Muslims only.
 
SMA89 said:
This is wrong. Allah gave us freewill, we have the right to choose whatever we want whether its good or bad. Non-muslims are still human beings Allah created so how can you neglect them from this world? I live life without any limits, which gives me a PEACE of mind. Isnt Islam the religion of PEACE?
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How is this neglecting them from the world? Its only 2 cities. I also mentioned how other countries use visa's and discriminate based on other attributes... but it looks like my post has been deleted :S
 
SMA89 said:
This is wrong. Allah gave us freewill, we have the right to choose whatever we want whether its good or bad. Non-muslims are still human beings Allah created so how can you neglect them from this world? I live life without any limits, which gives me a PEACE of mind. Isnt Islam the religion of PEACE?
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There is special rule about Makah and Madinah. These are only two cities.

How many cities in Muslim countries where non-muslims can live there ?.
 
thetruth2009 said:
Assalam aleykoum,


I am not here to jufge the king family of saudia, but I think there are the evil people.

About baning people from the medina, I do not understant that decision, its Allah's earth.

And in time of the prophete mohamed SWS all people lived together in Medina.

I never understand such stupid decision.

Assalam aleykoum.
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You might want to back that up with hadiths.

Imam Malik's Muwatta Chapter No: 45
Hadith no: 18
Narrated / Authority Of: Ibn Shihab
Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Two deens shall not co-exist in the Arabian Peninsula." Malik said that Ibn Shihab said, ''Umar ibn al-Khattab searched for information about that until he was absolutely convinced that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, had said, 'Two deens shall not co-exist in the Arabian Peninsula,' and he therefore expelled the jews from Khaybar."

Imam Malik's Muwatta Chapter No: 4
Hadith no: 17
Narrated / Authority Of: Ismail ibn Abi Hakim
Yahya related to me from Malik from Ismail ibn Abi Hakim that he heard Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz say, "One of the last things that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said was, 'May Allah fight the jews and the christians. They took the graves of their Prophets as places of prostration . Two deens shall not co-exist in the land of the Arabs.' "


About baning people from the medina, I do not understant that decision, its Allah's earth.
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As it is Allah's earth then it is up to Allah SWT to decide who can live in where.
And Allah SWT in the Qur'an says that no muslim shall approach the haram in Makkah.
And prophet Muhammad SAW with permission from Allah SWT has made Madina a haram:

Imam Malik's Muwatta Chapter No: 4
Hadith no: 10
Narrated / Authority Of: Anas bin Malik
Yahya related to me from Malik from Amr, the mawla of al-Muttalib from Anas ibn Malik that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, saw Uhud and said, "This is a mountain which loves us and we love it. O Allah! Ibrahim made Makka Haram, and I will make what is between the two tracts of black stones (in Madina) a Haram."
 
SMA89 said:
yup anyone can live in medina.. no rule in Islam saying that we cant. Islam says we can share with non muslims so nothing wrong with this.

All the best. lol
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Conviction without proper knowledge is dangerous.
You might want to read more of The Qur'an and Ahadiths.
 
SMA89 said:
This is wrong. Allah gave us freewill, we have the right to choose whatever we want whether its good or bad. Non-muslims are still human beings Allah created so how can you neglect them from this world? I live life without any limits, which gives me a PEACE of mind. Isnt Islam the religion of PEACE?
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This is right, and we are to judge by what was stated in the Quran and hadiths. They are not supposed to be near masjid al haram or in the arabian peninsula like the hadiths the brother quoted.

SMA89 said:
Noooooooooooo
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Seriously, you need to open up your eyes and read what you are saying. That sounds like a childish answer.
 
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shuraimfan4lyf said:
This is right, and we are to judge by what was stated in the Quran and hadiths. They are not supposed to be near masjid al haram or in the arabian peninsula like the hadiths the sister quoted.
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I am a brother

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This is a genuine question: Muslims see Jerusalem as incredibly holy too. If there was an Islamic caliphate in control of the city, would non-Muslims be expelled from Jerusalem, despite there being holy sites in the city?
 
Supreme said:
This is a genuine question: Muslims see Jerusalem as incredibly holy too. If there was an Islamic caliphate in control of the city, would non-Muslims be expelled from Jerusalem, despite there being holy sites in the city?
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Cities that forbidden for non-Muslims are Makah and Madinah only. Non-Muslims can live in other cities, including Jerusalem.
 
Supreme said:
This is a genuine question: Muslims see Jerusalem as incredibly holy too. If there was an Islamic caliphate in control of the city, would non-Muslims be expelled from Jerusalem, despite there being holy sites in the city?
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I am not sure of the correct answer, but my answer would be no.

The Qur'an only apply restrictions to Makkah, and the hadiths to Makkah and Madinah.
Hadith showed that prior to his death, prophet SAW indicated that hejaz should be free from non-muslims.
Jerusalem is not in hejaz.
During Umar r.a. caliphate, jews were expelled from lands nearby Madina after given fair compensation.

Imam Malik's Muwatta Chapter No: 45
Hadith no: 19
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Malik said, ''Umar ibn al-Khattab expelled the jews from Najran (a jewish settlement in the Yemen) and Fadak (a jewish settlement thirty miles from Madina). When the jews of Khaybar left, they did not take any fruit or land. The jews of Fadak took half the fruit and half the land, because the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, had made a settlement with them for that. So Umar entrusted to them the value in gold, silver, camels, ropes and saddle bags of half the fruit and half the land, and handed the value over to them and expelled them."

But as you can see, non-muslims now work and live all over hejaz, with the exception of Makkah and Madina
 
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