One billion Muslims to turn into suicide bombers if Makkah, Madina are attacked

Zulkiflim said:
Salaam,

did you know that the curretn US president was NOT elected but yet managed to destroy 2 nations?.
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This is likely pointless, but yes Bush was elected. To claim otherwise is sophomoric.

Iraq is a bit of a mess right now but was certainly no Switzerland on the Tigris before. Afghanistan was a chaotic thugocracy..it is not perfect either, but it is better now than it was.

Zulkiflim said:
Anyway,irregardless of who is in charge,the idea itself is ****ing.
Do you think that the Bush made the policy to attack Iraq and Afghan?It is planned by many people and such people unelected,are the ones who makes policy..
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The idea of attacking Mecca is stupid. That is the one thing we agree on. I have 100% confidence that nobody will be launching any US nukes without an order from a President (except in the case of the death of the President during war)

Zulkiflim said:
So likewise,muslim as individual and as a nation should beef up their weaponry to detroy any that seek to destroy the 2 cities.

As they say,it is a detterent,of equal force.

Inshallah i hope that Iran will gain nuclear weaponry.
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Yeah. Good idea, braniac. The world will once again be harmonious when Iran has nukes. I can't wait.
 
anti-Christ armed with nukes! that would be a "superb" idea. Sheesh!!!

I depise moronic so called Muslim posters who cause me to make posts like this
 
Cognescenti said:
This is likely pointless, but yes Bush was elected. To claim otherwise is sophomoric.

Iraq is a bit of a mess right now but was certainly no Switzerland on the Tigris before. Afghanistan was a chaotic thugocracy..it is not perfect either, but it is better now than it was.



The idea of attacking Mecca is stupid. That is the one thing we agree on. I have 100% confidence that nobody will be launching any US nukes without an order from a President (except in the case of the death of the President during war)



Yeah. Good idea, braniac. The world will once again be harmonious when Iran has nukes. I can't wait.
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Salaam,

As i have said,policy are made by the UNELECTED.
Supported by the ELECTED.

The idea of attacking Iraq and Afghan is already STUPID.

The world will be at peace when 2 power contend each other..a stalemate as you call it.
right now the US is belligerent and full of injustice.

Right now even the Russia have strted up again against US imperialism.
Check out google for Russian sorties over Guam.

http://wpherald.com/articles/5647/1...ss/Moscow-boasts-buzzing-US-base-at-Guam.html

And russia is also expanding their bases in Syria.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070807.RUSSIA07/TPStory/TPInternational/America/


And me a brainiac?,..hmmm interesting..
the world wont be harmonious till the US is destroyed or learn about respect.
Either way every coutnry have a right to self defence againt belligerent coutnries.

So i hope Iran will gian the technology and defend itself now and assuredly in time create more weapons that will casue otehr coutnries to think twice about attacking it.

Same for all coutnries..
 
the reason why this is coming out.. although not many know it.. is that there is a nuke attack scare within those who know about national security, although press rarely ever mentions it.. perhaps because they dont want to panic the population into joining doomsday cults and such..

But the man some call the 'Father of the Islamic bomb', and others the 'Father of nuclear proliferation' Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan has been accused of assisting Al Qaida in getting the bomb. many claim that Al qaida could not figure out how to operate one..that it would be impossible with out detonation codes and constant maintanence and alot of technical know how.. but some say we should not underestimate them...

This is what some people in intelligence think...

So we Americans who are rather ignorant of Islam try and figure out how to deal with this. and the usual response is "if they bomb us, we bomb them."

This was our policy towards the soviets and it kept either of us from bombing each other.. Nuclear weapons are very scary things and it is in our interest to prevent them from going off.. whatever the cost... Which is why we support what many see is a phony 'war on terror.'

we will never use nukes.. but if a nuclear bomb or few go off in usa.. God help the world.
 
WnbSlveOfAllah;806592 62 years too late to be saying that. [B said:
Unfortunatley the people of Hiroshima also believed as you believe:[/B]
Hiroshima Bombing
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No, they believed they were going to win the war they started. :skeleton:

They didn't know we had the A-Bomb. They were still working on thers. :phew
 
In 1945 the atomic bomb was still considered science fiction. Only two had been built at the time of Hiroshima. One was tested in a static test on the ground and detonated with a very large complex of timed explosive. The static "Bomb" was nearly the size of a small city. The other one was designed to be dropped from a n airplane. It was not known if it would work. that was dropped on Hiroshima. The third one being built was based on a purely theoretical concept of compression and most of the scientists doubted it would work. That one was dropped on Nagasaki. that was the entire supply of nuclear weapons in the world. If the Japanese had known we were out of ammunition, I suspect the war would have had a much different ending and sushi might have been our national food.
 
WnbSlveOfAllah said:
^^ zis is ghoode french! you sir have mastered zi lenghuage ov loove ;D



62 years too late to be saying that. Unfortunatley the people of Hiroshima also believed as you believe:

Hiroshima Bombing
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How very clever of you to remind us. Unfortunately for the people of Hiroshima, they had a spineless, limp-wristed Emperor who, having failed to contain the ambitions of his military (leading to a disastrous war) was then making ridiculous demands in order to modify the Allied surrender proffer. These included his retention of power in Japan as well as an intact Japanese military retreating to Japan.

The first attack was justified. The second attack was justified..as would have been every other attack until they gave up (at the time the US was able to produce about a bomb every 2 weeks).


Perspective: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/okinawa-battle.htm

Battle of Okinawa
Okinawa was the largest amphibious invasion of the Pacific campaign and the last major campaign of the Pacific War. More ships were used, more troops put ashore, more supplies transported, more bombs dropped, more naval guns fired against shore targets than any other operation in the Pacific. More people died during the Battle of Okinawa than all those killed during the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Casualties totaled more than 38,000 Americans wounded and 12,000 killed or missing, more than 107,000 Japanese and Okinawan conscripts killed, and perhaps 100,000 Okinawan civilians who perished in the battle.

The battle of Okinawa proved to be the bloodiest battle of the Pacific War. Thirty-four allied ships and craft of all types had been sunk, mostly by kamikazes, and 368 ships and craft damaged. The fleet had lost 763 aircraft. Total American casualties in the operation numbered over 12,000 killed [including nearly 5,000 Navy dead and almost 8,000 Marine and Army dead] and 36,000 wounded. Navy casualties were tremendous, with a ratio of one killed for one wounded as compared to a one to five ratio for the Marine Corps. Combat stress also caused large numbers of psychiatric casualties, a terrible hemorrhage of front-line strength. There were more than 26,000 non-battle casualties. In the battle of Okinawa, the rate of combat losses due to battle stress, expressed as a percentage of those caused by combat wounds, was 48% [in the Korean War the overall rate was about 20-25%, and in the Yom Kippur War it was about 30%]. American losses at Okinawa were so heavy as to illicite Congressional calls for an investigation into the conduct of the military commanders. Not surprisingly, the cost of this battle, in terms of lives, time, and material, weighed heavily in the decision to use the atomic bomb against Japan just six weeks later.

Japanese human losses were enormous: 107,539 soldiers killed and 23,764 sealed in caves or buried by the Japanese themselves; 10,755 captured or surrendered. The Japanese lost 7,830 aircraft and 16 combat ships. Since many Okinawan residents fled to caves where they subsequently were entombed the precise number of civilian casualties will probably never be known, but the lowest estimate is 42,000 killed. Somewhere between one-tenth and one-fourth of the civilian population perished, though by some estimates the battle of Okinawa killed almost a third of the civilian population. According to US Army records during the planning phase of the operation, the assumption was that Okinawa was home to about 300,000 civilians. At the conclusion of hostilities around 196,000 civilians remained. However, US Army figures for the 82 day campaign showed a total figure of 142,058 civilian casualties, including those killed by artillery fire, air attacks and those who were pressed into service by the Japanese army.


 
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If the Japanese had known we were out of ammunition, I suspect the war would have had a much different ending and sushi might have been our national food.
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that confirms a story told by an uncle of mine, who was a British Army officer, that they would have made sushi out of allied forces had they known this.
 
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WnbSlveOfAllah said:
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the citizens of hiroshima and nagasaki did not know anything.. they did not believe anything they never heard of an atomic bomb. The Japanese bombed Pearl harbor americas involvement in world war 2. And japanese were just as fanatical as Islamic extremists, willing to go on suicide missions and believed that we would kill them all and destroy every japanese... the real result was a new system of government and an end to tyranny in japan and in china as a result of japans attacks..
Many asians will never forgive japans horrific actions against thier people people think the holocaust was bad, what japan did to china and korea was incredibly evil...

I guess we should compare this to what muslim extremists are doing to africans in Darfur, murdering and raping african women because they believe Allah wants more arab babies born to african women.. and what they do to iraqies, and what they are doing to many many people.. beheading kids of iraqies soldiers, and wiring them with explosives to kill the people that come to identify the bodies.. beheading journalists . this happened to retired soldiers friend who is a friend of mine, his buddy was captured at a false checkpoint where alqaida pretended to be iraqi soldiers.. they beheaded him and beheaded a dog, and sewed a dogs head on his body... And alqaida comes and steals away iraqi women and marries them off to thier own soldiers and kills iraqies celebrating a simple soccer victory en masse. and al qaida 'safe houses' are full of the bodies living and dead of tortured iraqies..

Actually now that you bring that up the parallels between japan and islamic extremism are quite staggering..

And certainly you understand, that while I may be sorry about hiroshima and nagasaki, I do view those cities as a very grim warning to the rest of civilization about the power of these demonic weapons. And I hope it warns all to never use them..
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49950
 
NoName55 said:
that confirms story told by an uncle of mine, a British Army officer, that they would have made sushi out of allied forces had they known this.
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Not really. Japan was thoroughly defeated by 1945. They were just to stubborn to admit it. What the A-bombs did is make an invasion of the Japanese main islands unnecessary. It would have been an awful, bloody fight with many times the number dead from the A-bombs.
 
lol, this is pointless man Mecca and Medina will not be bombed, to be honest love to see that guy try. But it wont and thats it. STOP MAKING DRAMA OUT OF NOTHING.
 
eyeofthestorm said:
lol, this is pointless man Mecca and Medina will not be bombed, to be honest love to see that guy try. But it wont and thats it. STOP MAKING DRAMA OUT OF NOTHING.
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Exactly. The guy who said that won't be elected president ever, and no one is going to bomb Mecca and Medina anyway. It would be stupid, the targets would have no military value and all that would be accomplished is turning a billion people against you.
 
doesnt allah tell us in suratul feel how they tried to destroy the ka'bah but allah sent down birds with stones made out of clay and their army was defeated.
Even if they plannet just remember...Allah is the best of planners
 
About the only person who would see any need to Bomb Makkah and/or Madinah would be a truly misguided radical, with no concept of morality.

There is no military value in nuking either.

It is not even cost effective, it would cost far more to nuke them, that the material monetary value of them. It is not smart to use a weapon that costs more than the cash value of the target.

Now, with that said, keep in mind the "use your own descriptive phrase" who made that statement. Is a person who was politically unknown and with very little if any political future. He managed to speak to a small insignificant audience, of only 30 people. However, a news reporter saw a dramatic story and with some melodramatic embellishments, the insignificant speaker is now world famous.

The story would be just as logical as if a person said "my pet Gerbil is going to nuke New York, Paris, London, Moscow and Paducah, Kentucky"

Actually somebodies pet Gerbil probably has more political pull to do that than Representative Tom Tancredo, Republican from Colorado. So if you believe Mr. T has the ability to orchestrate a nuke attack on any place on earth, you should be worried about pet gerbils, as most gerbils would have more political and military pull and credibility than he has.

Moral of the story:

"Stupid, idiotic comments will be heard before truth and logic, if you shout them into a big enough loudspeaker."
 
Cognescenti said:
I don't think you are being fair to gerbils. They are pretty smart.
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My apologies to any pet gerbils I may have offended. It is true gerbils have enough intelligence to not make such a ridiculous statement as the Representative made.
 
3ARABY_2005 said:
Makkah And Madina Can't Be Destroyed

If The Us Attacked Them....i'll Make Them Regret They Were Born On This Earth.

And That's Easy......to Have Victory Or Die Trying.....the Can Say That Too..but We Can Do It..they Can't
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No Akhie they could be destroyed...Kaa'ba has been destroyed many times in the history...and in the last days it will be destroyed by a person called thu asaweeqateen from Al-habasha ..for madina its people will leave it for some reason , it could be its destruction..and this will happen exactly after Al-quds conquest.
 

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