only for people who are interested in truth.

[SirZubair]

Is there any reason for anyone to not believe that evolution is a possible explanation of the means used for creation? Would not our creation from clay, be viewed as evolution by a scientist?

Agreed.

But i doubt he is a scientist.

And he isnt talking clay-business,he is talking monkey-business.

wa'salaam

 

[yoke]

i made a spelling mistake i ment neanderthal
Lets see who is so clever now

 

[root]

Yoke, Evolution is still nothing more then a theory.

what does that mean exactly. Do you go around saying Gravity don't exist because the theory of relativity is only a theory? :giggling:

Those who believe it simply have studied one side too much and there logic fails them!

right, Einstien studied too much on his theory and should have spent more time on the Koran :?

In fact darwinism has been refuted to such an extent that even documents of Darwin expressing his doubt in evolution has been found

Being a self critic does not imply being refuted. If you doubt evolution go here and see the near as scientific facts as you are going to get. Then stop trying to pass lies off as knowledge

Scientific Fact 4

Quote:
Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate
their common primordial origin.

http://www.islamicboard.com/comparative-religion/23508-scientists-agree-evidence-based-facts.html

 

[SirZubair]

well then explain nenderthal to me and how it fits in with the quran?

You are here to teach us,remember?

 

[IceQueen~]

neantherthal man is no differnet from other men in bone structure or whatever than is a person from africa dif. from someon in china.
just racial dif.-dunno why it's such a big deal-maybe to fool people who get fooled...

 

[Woodrow]

well then explain nenderthal to me and how it fits in with the quran?

Poor example, it has been shown that neanderthal is a distinctly seperate species from homo sapians. Was not a forefather of humans but was an animal that became extinct in the same regions were humans established themselves.

Cohabitation does not verify relationship.

 

[root]

Poor example, it has been shown that neanderthal is a distinctly seperate species from homo sapians. Was not a forefather of humans but was an animal that became extinct in the same regions were humans established themselves.

:happy:

Yup, this is true. All the current scientific evidence suggests they were a seperate species from humans though sharing similar ancestors within their geneflow. Further, the expansion of modern humans is implicated as contributing to their final extinction.

Yoke - Some friendly advice, you cannot "prove" God does not exist any bit as much as you one can "prove" he exists, it's a modern day stale mate! Theoretically he does not exist. Absolute proof has always been beyond science and for the realm of religion only and they cannot provide absolute proof to the existence of god. "Stale mate"......

 

[aamirsaab]

Oh boy!

I can prove that Allah does not exist.

Many have made this claim in the past - all have failed. But, do as you wish.

Allah is one of the many thousands of gods that some people believe in but what i have found with religious people is that most of them are not interested in truth so please do not answer unless you are willing to be honest about your faith.

Bring it.

well then explain nenderthal to me and how it fits in with the quran?

Good question. From my recollection, the Quran mentions very little (if at all) about neanderthals. However, this is not to say that they didn't exist.

You have previously said that if we evolved, how could we have been created. Please answer this counter question: who created that form?

 

[yoke]

i rest my case.

 

[Woodrow]

i rest my case.

The only problem, was you had a flawed premise to begin with. So far nobody has ever been able to prove a negative statement. I can say you do not have a purple elephant in your living room, but I can not prove you do not have a purple elephant in your living room.

It is not up to any one to prove that God(swt) does not exist. It is up to those of us who believe to offer evidence. We have offered sufficient evidence to convince uncounted multitudes of his existance. It is a person's own choice as whether or not he will accept the evidence or turn a blind eye to it.

 

[Umar001]

Just wondering, wasnt there like a rule in the rules area or something that people are to be like civil or something similar.


Sounds like people are being abit childish, i mean im childish but this is on the verge of rudeness.

 

[Woodrow]

Just wondering, wasnt there like a rule in the rules area or something that people are to be like civil or something similar.


Sounds like people are being abit childish, i mean im childish but this is on the verge of rudeness.

Thank you for the reminder. Yes This thread is getting to the edge of rudeness. Let us all try to keep our words in context with the topic and avoid any personal attacks. We can all agree to disagree with dignity and respect.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

what does that mean exactly. Do you go around saying Gravity don't exist because the theory of relativity is only a theory? :giggling:

depends on what u define gravity as, to me gravity is just that force which is directed to the center of earth. And i feel that its quite a fact, however you cant FEEL that Evolution is a fact. How can you compare evolution to theory?
lol

www.darwinismrefuted.com have fun :thumbs_up

Being a self critic does not imply being refuted. If you doubt evolution go here and see the near as scientific facts as you are going to get. Then stop trying to pass lies off as knowledge

Thats it, hats off to you, man you win! You called me a liar and your going on like "Evolution" is a fact. LoL what next, i guess the Cow also jumped over the moon?


eace: eace: ;D ;D ;D

 

[root]

depends on what u define gravity as, to me gravity is just that force which is directed to the center of earth. And i feel that its quite a fact, however you cant FEEL that Evolution is a fact. How can you compare evolution to theory?
lol

Now at least I understand that you don't understand what you are talking about.

http://www.venganza.org/ :Evil: Have fun

Thats it, hats off to you, man you win! You called me a liar and your going on like "Evolution" is a fact. LoL what next, i guess the Cow also jumped over the moon?

Evolution is a theory not a fact, please don't misquote me. As far as the cow jumping over the moon I agree that's ridiculous,

 

[Fishman]

depends on what u define gravity as, to me gravity is just that force which is directed to the center of earth. And i feel that its quite a fact, however you cant FEEL that Evolution is a fact. How can you compare evolution to theory?
lol

www.darwinismrefuted.com have fun :thumbs_up



Thats it, hats off to you, man you win! You called me a liar and your going on like "Evolution" is a fact. LoL what next, i guess the Cow also jumped over the moon?


eace: eace: ;D ;D ;D

Evolution is a correct theory. It does not go against the Quran. Humans, however, were created separately from the rest of the animals. theory does not mean 'guess' anyway. It's closer to 'an explanation of how a phenomenon works'. Darwinism is composed of a fact, which is that animals evolve from each other, and a theory, which is that the above-mentioned evolution is caused by mutation and natural selection.

I think it would be a good idea for Muslims to make a www.darwinismrefutedrefuted.com site, to stop Harun Yahya.

Evolution does not prove that Allah does not exist.

 

[root]

Evolution does not prove that Allah does not exist.

Well said, And it never was intended to do so. I don't agree with you point on Human Evolution and niether does the scientific data. However, your point still remains a valid one.

Well done u.......

 

[x Maz x]

AsalaamuAlaykum My dearest brothers and sisters…
What is this? Looks like a stupid lil argument in the playground SubhanAllah, As Muslims you should educate his clouded lil soul and refrain from petty insults, The Quran states that you should argue in ways which are beneficial and have good conduct regardless of what the opponent says or does, SubhanAllah where are these etiquettes?...

“Invite to the Way of your Lord (Islam) with wisdom and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better”. [16:125]


Your having a debate not “O I’m right your wrong”..”No boo you and your crew I’m right and YOUR wrong”…Please give it a rest, If you got something nice to say InshAllah by all means say it in a respectful manner if not just keep shutum…Yoke, I recall having an encounter with you before?...Forgive me if I am wrong but I do remember Ansar refuting all your claims? If you have any decent arguments levelling up to Islam feel free to post them up but if your going to make such irrational statements like so, then post them elsewhere…In future please can you respect our beliefs and stop disregarding others opnions without checking out evidence, These are not only manners which Islam promotes but they are basic manners which apply for all humans…
Something I could help turning an eye away from…

Alas! Too many kids on the forum

ffended:
Wow JazakAllah Khair, It’s so nice you approve of the youth entering sites to seek ilm (!)…Listen this is not because they are “Kids” but they got a bit carried away and they began to lack in maturity, You can also classify me as a “Kid” so do tell me if I have appeared in a negative manner and shown the characteristics of a “kid”…Much appreciated
Additionally Can I please request Mods/Admins to delte and off-topic posts, they are doing no-one any good, BarakAllah feek

Something Each and everyone of us will benefit from, including myself:

http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-islam/21281-dawah.html?highlight=Dawah
Wa’AlaykumAsalaam
Fi AmanAllah x

 

[Islamicboy]

Having a debate with athesit is pointless most of the time. Anything muslims say they refuse and anything the athest says muslims refuse. Its easier to teach islam to a person who belive in god then someone who doesn't believe in god. Thinking there is no god then who created the world some scienctist have said world was here from day one. Well then who created the earth from day one and if earth came from nothing who created that. Someone has to create the world if you look around how the way earth and universe is made its kind of hard to say there is no creator.

 

[x Maz x]

Having a debate with athesit is pointless most of the time. Anything muslims say they refuse and anything the athest says muslims refuse. Its easier to teach islam to a person who belive in god then someone who doesn't believe in god.

How do you think the companions of the Prophet [Pbuh] came to acknowledge the truth? Surley through peacefull preaching and dawah was it not?...Of course my dearest Akhi, there is purpose in giving dawah to atheists...Islam has been portrayed in a very bad light and we need to get the real message of Islam out not turning a blind eye, we will be confronted about this on the Day, so by all means we should spread the message of Islam but in a peacefull manner, the rest is up to Allah [SWT]...He guides whom He wills and lets lead astray whom He wills

Fi amanAllah x

 

[j4763]

Thinking there is no god then who created the world some scienctist have said world was here from day one. Well then who created the earth from day one and if earth came from nothing who created that. Someone has to create the world if you look around how the way earth and universe is made its kind of hard to say there is no creator.

And who created the creator then :X