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i still don't see where you've stated anything thats valid or believable, to me it seems like you had nothing better to do, so you thought you'd type up a loada bull.
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Yup.
 
yoke said:
Common sense proves Allah does not exist
To believe in evolution and try to make it fit in with the Quran is even more ridiculous than believing the earth is 10000 years old and was created in 6 or 8 days.
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Common sense does not disprove Allah, Root and Czgibson don't make claims as illogical as that. God cannot be disproved. He can be proven, though.

No, I do not try to twist the Quran to make it agree with evolution. There were a lot of early Muslim scientists who invented concepts of evolution that were based on the Quran.

The Quran states that the World was created in six days. The eight days 'contradiction' is one of the silliest deceits ever.
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Greetings,

Sahih Bukhari

Volume 4, Book 54, Number 496:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "Satan comes to one of you and says, 'Who created so-and-so? 'till he says, 'Who has created your Lord?' So, when he inspires such a question, one should seek refuge with Allah and give up such thoughts."
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An attitude like this pretty much guarantees the production of a mind closed to learning and discovery. Could this perhaps partly explain why Muslim science has become stultified since the Middle Ages?

Peace
 
This thread is pointless.

Seriously. It's just conflicting beliefs. Belief in God doesn't need evidence, it needs faith. Disbelief in God doesn't require faith in a higher being. End of.
 
An attitude like this pretty much guarantees the production of a mind closed to learning and discovery.
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Learning and discovery? Why ask such immature questions when u have a strong faith already in God! Verily, this is the work of Satan!
 
Since no one wants to use reason to discuss i have nothing else to say.

Instead of just believing something you are told why don't you think how do i know what i have been told is the truth?
There are hundreds of books that claim to be the word of god to just pick one of them without checking out why people don't believe it is not being reasonable
 
czgibson said:
Greetings,



An attitude like this pretty much guarantees the production of a mind closed to learning and discovery. Could this perhaps partly explain why Muslim science has become stultified since the Middle Ages?

Peace
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There are many verses in the Quran which tell humans to study the Earth and the universe. Could this prehaps partly explain why Muslim science advanced so much when Europe was in the dark ages?
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tasmiyah_B said:
wassup Yoke..

whats the meaning of common sense?...

What's Evolution?

And are you related to gud'ol Darwin?

Ohh and you should change the title of this thread to 'Only for people who want to laugh @ Yoke'

Once again, Am messing chillax, i still don't see where you've stated anything thats valid or believable, to me it seems like you had nothing better to do, so you thought you'd type up a loada bull.

If its a migrane, take some aspirins :)

Tc!
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Pretty rude!!!!!!!!
I think you need to take some time out young lady!

:grumbling :grumbling :grumbling :grumbling
 
czgibson said:
Greetings,

An attitude like this pretty much guarantees the production of a mind closed to learning and discovery. Could this perhaps partly explain why Muslim science has become stultified since the Middle Ages?
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Greetings,

I'm sorry, i don't get you. this and similiar hadith were also present during the time of these scientists. Muslims scientists were the best in the world. it was their inventions and discoveries that sparked of the industrial revolution.

What the hadith is trying to say is that trying to understand God with regard to certain matters, may cause a believer to leave his religion.

Then what's the point of creating a man who cannot comprehend his Creator?... I would say Allah made man this way, so that he is tested in this life.
 
yoke said:
Yes and there is plenty of evidence and experiments that confirm oxygen exists now this is what i call a reasonable question.
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You can't observe the multiverse and most atheists believe in one (to explain the fine-tuning in the universe).
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Fishman said:
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You can't observe the multiverse and most atheists believe in one (to explain the fine-tuning in the universe).
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Anybody who said they had faith in a multiverse would be wrong. It might be possible that there are other universes but nobody knows for sure
 
Yoke, consider this. If a person opposes even the possibility of there being a God, then any evidence can be rationalized or explained away. It is like if someone refuses to believe that people have walked on the moon, then no amount of information is going to change their thinking. Satellite footage of astronauts walking on the moon, interviews with the astronauts, moon rocks...all the evidence would be worthless, because the person has already concluded that people cannot go to the moon.
 
yoke said:
Where is the evidence for your belief? i have give you mine
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given*

man your tense is crap, no wonder you lost!


The Quran (.) << full stop,

Yo should read it Yoke, instead of dem superman comics, maybe then you'd get somewhere,

cya don't wana be ya..

*feels like such a baby* :D
 
MuslimChap said:
Yoke, consider this. If a person opposes even the possibility of there being a God, then any evidence can be rationalized or explained away. It is like if someone refuses to believe that people have walked on the moon, then no amount of information is going to change their thinking. Satellite footage of astronauts walking on the moon, interviews with the astronauts, moon rocks...all the evidence would be worthless, because the person has already concluded that people cannot go to the moon.
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I can understand why some people are atheists, agnostics, deists or even pantheists but to be a theist which is the category Muslims Jews and christians which maybe a few hundred years ago would be understandable. But today we know life evolved over billions of years and that the creation myths are false.
 
yoke said:
I can understand why some people are atheists, agnostics, deists or even pantheists but to be a theist which is the category Muslims Jews and christians which maybe a few hundred years ago would be understandable. But today we know life evolved over billions of years and that the creation myths are false.
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Today we know that the Islamic creation 'myth' is not false, thanks to modern scientists. They even confirmed that life was created from water for us (abiogenesis).
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Fishman said:
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Today we know that the Islamic creation 'myth' is not false, thanks to modern scientists. They even confirmed that life was created from water for us (abiogenesis).
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If you can prove what you say then you would have won the nobel prize.
 
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