Osama Bin Laden has been killed

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ehhhhh.
Back to The non-ending topic.
First of all, plz:
1- Don't judge someone from uncertain information
2- Read Osama's biography, because this is the only certain info about him, and it gives you an idea about his thoughts and his personality.
3- For the uncertain info, talk about and judge the action regardless who did it.

about his biography, here is it (in arabic):

**sorry couldn't post the link**


A glance:
"ولد أسامة بن لادن سنة 1377 هجرية 1957 ميلادية لأم سورية دمشقية ،وكان ترتيبه بين إخوته وأخواته الثالث والأربعين وترتيبه بين الذكور الحادي والعشرين من أبناء المقاول المشهور محمد عوض بن لادن.

والده

كان والد أسامة ، محمد عوض بن لادن ، قد وصل إلى جدة من حضرموت في حدود سنة 1930 ميلادية، ويذكر عنه من عرفه أنه كان قمة في المثابرة و العصامية و الاعتماد على النفس و لذلك لم تمض سنين قليلة حتى تحول محمد بن لادن من مجرد حمال في مرفأ جدة البسيط إلى اكبر مقاول إنشاءات في المملكة. إضافة إلى مثابرته فقد كان جريئا ومستعدا للمجازفة حيث تمكن من خلال هذه الجرأة من إقناع الملك سعود أنه الأقدر على المشاريع الصعبة وذات طابع التحدي و تمكن خلال فترة الملك من بناء علاقة جيدة مع كبار العائلة الحاكمة بما فيهم فيصل الذي كان أميرا آنذاك. وعندما حصل الخلاف المشهور بين فيصل و سعود كان من ضمن من أقنع الملك سعود بالتنحي لصالح فيصل.............."

source : Islamicnews.net
 
Well, now he is dead. My reaction is that he was a fading symbol anyway and have been encouraged by the uprisings in Iran, Tunia, Egypt, Syria, Bahrain, Yemen, etc that seem to reflect the direct opposite of his and al-queda's goals. Hopefully some good can come out of that.
 
Condemning practicing Muslims anywhere is shameful!

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

It appears to be a great ignorance and falsehood being perpetrated in these forums.
Some actually attempt to disparage the practicing Muslims who had no decision on where Allah created them.

The majority of exchange students, immigrants, refuges, etc we personally meet are migrating from the so-called Muslim countries in waves and express no desire to return to country of origin. (Who perform Jammat Salah at Masjid)

Let us state that those so-called Muslims that think they have a sacred right to Islam because many were born in corrupt countries that accept billions of dollars from America rarely if ever criticize and condemn their country of origin.

The online Jihadist doesn’t participate in rising up and changing the corrupt conditions in those puppet countries. And many of their parents have sacrificed and migrated to safe lands so their offspring can be online and create a Jihadist persona.

There are endless practicing Muslims who are American born who have joined in the following campaigns and conflicts:

Afghanistan, Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya, Kashmir, etc (Google it)

When the online Jihadist attempt to disparage practicing Muslims in America a qualification is required.

There is also second and third generation Muslims in the West who were born into Islam.

It would be interesting to review the country of origin of the weak faith and poor adab displayed within this forum.

Intelligence would provide understanding that generalizing and grouping all Muslims in one category is not wise.

We understand the transgressions practiced by Muslims from so-called Muslim countries when they visit, study
and migrate to the West is no reflection on the dedicated practicing Muslims with Taqwa and Iman worldwide.

That same view should be applied to the dedicated practicing Muslims anywhere. Generalizing and disparaging practicing Muslims anywhere is shameful.

The arrogant will neglect the words and commands of Allah! The practicing Muslims in word and deed will reflect.
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Surah Hujurat 49:11

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا يَسْخَرْ قَومٌ مِّن قَوْمٍ عَسَى أَن يَكُونُوا خَيْرًا مِّنْهُمْ وَلَا نِسَاء مِّن نِّسَاء عَسَى أَن يَكُنَّ خَيْرًا مِّنْهُنَّ وَلَا تَلْمِزُوا أَنفُسَكُمْ وَلَا تَنَابَزُوا بِالْأَلْقَابِ بِئْسَ الاِسْمُ الْفُسُوقُ بَعْدَ الْإِيمَانِ وَمَن لَّمْ يَتُبْ فَأُوْلَئِكَ هُمُ الظَّالِمُونَ (49:11)
Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo la yaskhar qawmun min qawmin AAasa an yakoonoo khayran minhum wala nisaon min nisain AAasa an yakunna khayran minhunna wala talmizoo anfusakum wala tanabazoo bialalqabi bisa alismu alfusooqu baAAda aleemani waman lam yatub faolaika humu alththalimoona

49:11 (Y. Ali)O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): Nor let some women laugh at others: It may be that the (latter are better than the (former): Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong.
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Surah Hujurat 49:13

يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍ وَأُنثَى وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِندَ اللَّهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌ (49:13)
Ya ayyuha alnnasu inna khalaqnakum min thakarin waontha wajaAAalnakum shuAAooban waqabaila litaAAarafoo inna akramakum AAinda Allahi atqakum inna Allaha AAaleemun khabeerun

49:13 (Y. Ali)O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).
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Surah Hujurat 49:14


قَالَتِ الْأَعْرَابُ آمَنَّا قُل لَّمْ تُؤْمِنُوا وَلَكِن قُولُوا أَسْلَمْنَا وَلَمَّا يَدْخُلِ الْإِيمَانُ فِي قُلُوبِكُمْ وَإِن تُطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ لَا يَلِتْكُم مِّنْ أَعْمَالِكُمْ شَيْئًا إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ (49:14)
Qalati alaAArabu amanna qul lam tuminoo walakin qooloo aslamna walamma yadkhuli aleemanu fee quloobikum wain tuteeAAoo Allaha warasoolahu la yalitkum min aAAmalikum shayan inna Allaha ghafoorun raheemun

49:14 (Y. Ali)The desert Arabs say, "We believe." Say, "Ye have no faith; but ye (only)say, 'We have submitted our wills to Allah,' For not yet has Faith entered your hearts. But if ye obey Allah and His Messenger, He will not belittle aught of your deeds: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

This post was submitted with the best intentions and the best construction should be used when reading it.

Jazakumullahu Khair
 
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Guys do you want a good laugh check the comments on this video, it the osama home video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB0ftf53JYs

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I like to watch myself. I like it SO much, that sometimes I watch myself on TV. And when I'm really really into it, I have someone film me, while I watch myself on TV, so that later on, I can watch myself watching myself on TV.
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haha
 
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Tyrion said:


Wow, so now we're targeting the fact that I happen to be American? :p
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I thought u were of Afghani Origin:hmm:

Or is being American all u are now?
 
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Yanoorah said:


I thought u were of Afghani Origin:hmm:

Or is being American all u are now?
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Salaam,

Well his parents are from Afghanistan and moved to America. He's an Afghan American. He was either born in Afghanistan and moved with his parents or he was born in America.
 
They dropped him in the sea right.

They dropped megatron in the sea.

We all know how that turned out.
 
Salaam

Hardly a surprise :hmm:

Osama bin Laden mission agreed in secret 10 years ago by US and Pakistan

US forces were given permission to conduct unilateral raid inside Pakistan if they knew where Bin Laden was hiding, officials say

The US and Pakistan struck a secret deal almost a decade ago permitting a US operation against Osama bin Laden on Pakistani soil similar to last week's raid that killed the al-Qaida leader, the Guardian has learned. The deal was struck between the military leader General Pervez Musharraf and President George Bush after Bin Laden escaped US forces in the mountains of Tora Bora in late 2001, according to serving and retired Pakistani and US officials. Under its terms, Pakistan would allow US forces to conduct a unilateral raid inside Pakistan in search of Bin Laden, his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and the al-Qaida No3. Afterwards, both sides agreed, Pakistan would vociferously protest the incursion.

"There was an agreement between Bush and Musharraf that if we knew where Osama was, we were going to come and get him," said a former senior US official with knowledge of counterterrorism operations. "The Pakistanis would put up a hue and cry, but they wouldn't stop us." The deal puts a new complexion on the political storm triggered by Bin Laden's death in Abbottabad, 35 miles north of Islamabad, where a team of US navy Seals assaulted his safe house in the early hours of 2 May. Pakistani officials have insisted they knew nothing of the raid, with military and civilian leaders issuing a strong rebuke to the US. If the US conducts another such assault, Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani warned parliament on Monday, "Pakistan reserves the right to retaliate with full force."

Days earlier, Musharraf, now running an opposition party from exile in London, emerged as one of the most vocal critics of the raid, terming it a "violation of the sovereignty of Pakistan". But under the terms of the secret deal, while Pakistanis may not have been informed of the assault, they had agreed to it in principle. A senior Pakistani official said it had been struck under Musharraf and renewed by the army during the "transition to democracy" – a six-month period from February 2008 when Musharraf was still president but a civilian government had been elected.

Referring to the assault on Bin Laden's Abbottabad compound, the official added: "As far as our American friends are concerned, they have just implemented the agreement." The former US official said the Pakistani protests of the past week were the "public face" of the deal. "We knew they would deny this stuff." The agreement is consistent with Pakistan's unspoken policy towards CIA drone strikes in the tribal belt, which was revealed by the WikiLeaks US embassy cables last November. In August 2008, Gilani reportedly told a US official: "I don't care if they do it, as long as they get the right people. We'll protest in the National Assembly and then ignore it."

As drone strikes have escalated in the tribal belt over the past year, senior civilian and military officials issued pro forma denunciations even as it became clear the Pakistani military was co-operating with the covert programme. The former US official said that impetus for the co-operation, much like the Bin Laden deal, was driven by the US. "It didn't come from Musharraf's desire. On the Predators, we made it very clear to them that if they weren't going to prosecute these targets, we were, and there was nothing they could do to stop us taking unilateral action.

"We told them, over and again: 'We'll stop the Predators if you take these targets out yourselves.'" Despite several attempts to contact his London office, the Guardian has been unable to obtain comment from Musharraf. Since Bin Laden's death, Pakistan has come under intense US scrutiny, including accusations that elements within Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence helped hide the al-Qaida leader.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/09/osama-bin-laden-us-pakistan-deal

What now for the "war on terror" after Osama Bin Laden's death?


Following the assassination of Osama bin Laden, Chris Nineham from Stop the War Coalition is interviewed about the likely repercussions for the west's wars and intervention in the Middle East region and North Africa. Filmed and edited by Anupam Pradhan and Keith Halstead.
 
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weather he is dead or alive I don't care all I can say is "To Allaah we belong and to Him is our return"
I dont know he is a terrorist or a good muslim
I cannot say anything about an issue which I don't have any proper knowledge

thts my opinion on this matter !
 
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i didnt make this...took this from a different website
 
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^ LOL...is that Hilary Clinton holding an ice cream... o_o

I feel like having ice cream now...
 
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