OSLO terrorist attack

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The front page headline of the NY times called him a christian fundamentalist and right wing extremist. The guy is just insane.
 
Gator said:
The front page headline of the NY times called him a christian fundamentalist and right wing extremist. The guy is just insane.
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Now if only the media would understand that. Because a man acts in a horrific manner does not mean he is representing the religion he claims to follow. People will soon agree this man did not represent Christianity, but if he had been Muslim, it would be nearly impossible to get people to understand he does not represent Islam.

The media feeds prejudice by revealing the religion or race of a person involved in criminal activity. The rule should be to always reveal it or never reveal it. The better choice should be to never reveal it.
 
Ahmed M. said:
But how will most ignorant brainwashed fools will relate to this man? "A lone, madman with mental problems" This terrorist attack was no doubt politically motivated.
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What 'ignorant brainwashed fools' are you talking about? Nobody is disputing that the motive was (probably) political, although I for one find it impossible to believe the shooting could have been carried out by someone without 'mental problems' of some sort.

The attack was on a rally which was against Islamophobia, and this terrorist had enough of his people betraying on his country. How dare they support Combating-Islamophobia?!
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What rally?! The shooting was on some sort of Island summer camp for the youth wing of the ruling Labour party. The bombing was aimed at the Prime Minister. In any event how 'dare' who support combating Islamophobia? The Norwegian people? Would you prefer they didn't?

When they found out it was done by their own kind, they were disappointed of course. How can it be from their own kind? No jackpot for us today, go home everyone, 92 killed by a non-Muslim, so no party tonight.
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I can't see any evidence for any; it's just a reflection of your own bias. One thing that is truly depressing on these boards is the number of people these days complaining about hate and bias in posts that exhibit as much or more of them as the people - or strawmen - they are complaining about.
 
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Don't want to offend anyone here, but this guy was Christian as far as I heard, why don't the media put Christian Terrorist or Extremist, they would do it for a Muslim in 5 minutes, but no this guy is just lone wolf or a madman, see they always pick Islam.....
 
:cry: So very sad for the loss of life.

Hate and Terrorism have no religion and true justice will be served in the court of Allah(swt)

May Allah (swt) grant mercy upon us all.
 
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Poor kids subhanAllah...He even made sure they were dead by shooting them twice again...The guy has definitely lost the plot...Can't imagine what the families are going through...muslim or not, it still hurts that so many young kids were killed without even being involved with anything...Even if the lunatic isn't given the punishment he deserves right now..Allah is Just and will deal with it in the best of ways.
 
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Don't want to offend anyone here, but this guy was Christian as far as I heard, why don't the media put Christian Terrorist or Extremist, they would do it for a Muslim in 5 minutes, but no this guy is just lone wolf or a madman, see they always pick Islam.....
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that's because they're only terrorists when Muslim, others are just loons. Welcome to Murdoch's media fostered financially by ilwaleed ibn talal... still think we shouldn't topple those regimes and the effete kaffirs under pretense of Islam in power?

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Don't want to offend anyone here, but this guy was Christian as far as I heard, why don't the media put Christian Terrorist or Extremist, they would do it for a Muslim in 5 minutes, but no this guy is just lone wolf or a madman, see they always pick Islam.....
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Salaam,

Because only "moslems" commit terrorist attacks.

If this guy was a Muslim, we would be hearing comments like Muslims are not integrating, Muslims are dangerous, Muslims need to be deported, Islam is a dangerous religion and the rest of the rubbish that's on the mainstream media. What do you expect? Western media (not all) are too focused on trivial issues and want to make a profit. The public need to blame someone for all of their problems and Muslims are an easy target.
 
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τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1455574 said:


that's because they're only terrorists when Muslim, others are just loons. :w:
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I don't know what you are seeing over there, but that has as about much relevance to UK and European coverage of the incident as Ahmed M.'s gibberish. The BBC in particular is concentrating on extreme right-wing views as terrorist motivations , possible associates and group affilitions, etc. If it's any consolation I think those who make a habit of brainwashing children into strapping themselves into explosives and blowing themselves up in public places are just as ga-ga as Breivik.
 
Trumble said:
I don't know what you are seeing over there, but that has as about much relevance to UK and European coverage of the incident as Ahmed M.'s gibberish. The BBC in particular is concentrating on extreme right-wing views as terrorist motivations , possible associates and group affilitions, etc. If it's any consolation I think those who make a habit of brainwashing children into strapping themselves into explosives and blowing themselves up in public places are just as ga-ga as Breivik.
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Get a satellite TV and tune into fox, I have seen more images of the WTC towers and references to 'al qaeda' and 'islamists/extremists/fundies' in the past few days than I have of the Oslo folks..

best,
 
Salaam and Peace be to all,

Is it really important, to name which or what group does any kind of henious act?
This is the problem we mainly focus on *WHO* did what, In order to make Stereotypes and Generalization on a certain group ( May it be religious or other) because that's normally what we human beings like to do , when we see something wrong we like to blame someone , and I guess this is what the Media Today is doing, It found one marginalized group of the community to keep accusing of anything inconvenient that happens, It's truly dis-appointing , What has happened has happened , we can;t Change the Will of God , we can;t bring these poor and innocent people back to life, and we can't apologize to them for whatever they have had to face.
But what's even more dis-appointing is that all we do, is blame each other and generalize. It would be better if we could have discussed ( without regards to any religion) as to why some people act in such a violent matter , with putting in mind no matter how many Peace-Promoting verses of the Qur'an Bible, or What ever scripture the person may follow commanding them to not harm humanity , they just wont listen. It's a matter of understanding these people's physchology.. and it's quite important to do such a thing , if we wanted for this kind of catasrophe to never happen ever again.
The amount of money being spent to promote religious hatred and stereotypes between human beings would be incomparable to the effort of insuring such acts not to eve happen again

Salaam and Peace be to all.
 
What I hate is the media in this, see if it was Muslim it would say Muslim this and that, but this guy is just "crazy"

The second and most thing I do not like is how, these people have come out and moaned, of course do so, but this happens day and night in our Muslims countries, NATO bombing buildings and killing 100s of people day by day, but hey no one remembers them.....
 
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What I hate is the media in this, see if it was Muslim it would say Muslim this and that, but this guy is just "crazy"

The second and most thing I do not like is how, these people have come out and moaned, of course do so, but this happens day and night in our Muslims countries, NATO bombing buildings and killing 100s of people day by day, but hey no one remembers them.....
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why should anyone remember them? casualties of war is what they call them..
 
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The second and most thing I do not like is how, these people have come out and moaned, of course do so, but this happens day and night in our Muslims countries, NATO bombing buildings and killing 100s of people day by day, but hey no one remembers them.....
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Salaam,

They don't care because it does not happen to them. There are some western people that are against Muslims being killed by western troops, it's just that the mainstream media does not give them a platform.
 
Woodrow said:
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I agree. But, I do see a small step was made in the right direction. At least some papers did mention he was Christian. Normally if the perpetrator is not Muslim, the faith is not mentioned. Perhaps some people are finally waking up that either the news must mention the religion of every criminal or never mention it. Maybe some will see that terrorists use the name of any religion.
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The religion of the person is only relevant if they do the act in the name of the religion or if they use the religion to justify it. I haven't been following this case (I have been removed from all news media and most of life in general while preparing for a trial). Is that what happened here? If so, then they most certainly should cover that angle.

Imagine trying to cover something like David Koresh without mentioning his religious beliefs. You'd miss half the story.
 
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Tragic Typos said:
There are some western people that are against Muslims being killed by western troops, it's just that the mainstream media does not give them a platform.
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I would even say MOST western people are against Muslims (or any other civillians) being killed by western troops.
 
Pygoscelis;1455615 Imagine trying to cover something like David Koresh without mentioning his religious beliefs. You'd miss half the story.[/quote said:
No you wouldn't miss half the story,except if you want to entertain yourself by accusing the everyone that belongs to same group may it be religious or other, So if this same man was black I'm sure many people would have been like : I knew these Black people were evil all they do is fight and commit crimes, which is completely wrong!
Just because X does something wrong doesn't mean that everyone X knows or every member or of that particular group X belongs is as being said.
Religion and Ethnicity..etc Should not be a case in judging a person's actions. Anyone who does any act should be held responsible for it and face the consequences no matter what.
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May Ayob said:
No you wouldn't miss half the story,except if you want to entertain yourself by accusing the everyone that belongs to same group may it be religious or other, So if this same man was black I'm sure many people would have been like : I knew these Black people were evil all they do is fight and commit crimes, which is completely wrong!
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As I said, it would be relevant if they did it in the name of religion or justified it through religion, and it would also be relevant if they did it in the name of blackness or justified it through blackness. We don't cover the KKK without making reference to race. You couldnt cover David Koresh without making reference to religion.
 

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