Pakistan sends 30,000 troops for all-out assault on Taliban

[Masuma]

I can not say it was weapons deliberately handed over to the Taliban, but an awful lot of USA weapons seem to have been lost or misplaced or otherwise unaccounted for. In my opinion the Taliban are either deliberately armed by the US or it is through gross negligence.

"Out of negligence?" Bwhahaaha! Well nobody aspects the US (WORLD SUPPER POWER) to be that much foolish. Smuggling of the weapons is not easy., in US case, almost impossible. All weapons are registered so no country would be too foolish to let these registered weapons be lost. It can come in any body's hand who can use it for crimes and terrorist purposes. US has done it deliberately, just in the same way as India's Raw is doing its job!

Also don't you wonder why this "by chance" thingy US never plays with India? 'Cuz it knows that if any of its weapons are found in India, India would be too quick to take serious actions against it.

As I always say that there are big outside anti-Pak schemes playing in the scene and trying their utmost to bring destruction of Pak which Allah will never let to happen. Allah-o-Akbar!

 

[ardianto]

Talibans are NOT on the right path. Killing an innocent, well they have killed hundreds! I don't call it right! And nothing can justify this atrocious activity! Talibans are mislead people! We don't love them at all!

Don't tell it to me, but tell it to some people in my country.

Okay, okay, I confess, I didn't read your post completely, it's too long.

 

[Ramadhan]

And the graduates of Afghan war/Talibans have been causing terror attacks in Indonesia, killing hundreds of civilians.

 

[ardianto]

I read on my newspaper today, they have change pejuang into militan (militant) for call Taliban.

 

[Masuma]

:salamext:

I read on my newspaper today, they have change pejuang into militan (militant) for call Taliban.

Heheeehe! :giggling: Gud to know that dear bro!

And brother, please give awareness to the people around you. They have a right to know what is truth and what is false.

If you people, our own beloved Muslim brothers, will call our enemies heroes, don't you think that it is then too natural for us, Pakistanis, to be angry on this?

Won't you hate those people who hate your brethren?

Talibans have shown their hatred towards us by blasting my innocent people! Oh Allah!
Do you know how much terror and hate it brings in your heart when you see your loved one's head detached from his/her body? Their limbs falling here and there, and the sisters' hair on the trees and pieces of their flesh thrown in every direction, this Zulm (injustice) is enough to splinter someone's heart into pieces!

Please pray for us, your own brothers, facing trials of worst type.

May Allah bless you and save people around you from the trials which have befallen my people!

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

ive been hearing that the taliban of the pakistan is fake...



it feels terrible sitting here not knowing whats TRUELLY happening with the muslims.


simply cant trust media..

 

[Masuma]

:salamext:

Don't tell it to me, but tell it to some people in my country.

But how can I? I don't even know them. I'll tell it to everyone I know. Everyone has a right to know what is truth and what is false.

Okay, okay, I confess, I didn't read your post completely, it's too long.

:giggling: Yup! You are right dear bro! From now onwards, I'll try to write shorter ones. (Don't like reading long posts myself.;D)

May Allah bless you.

Wasalam!

 

[Masuma]

ive been hearing that the taliban of the pakistan is fake...

Oh pleasssse! Why do people say such things if they don't know what actually is right? Dear bro, Talibans are here, killing your Ummah, blasting them into pieces! We are all their target. Talibans are on our borders and our army is holding them back from coming and taking over the whole country.

it feels terrible sitting here not knowing whats TRUELLY happening with the muslims.

Yeh! Very true. I felt the same way for Palestine and Afghanistan.

simply cant trust media..

100% right again! DON't trust BBC, CNN, Fox News etc. They won't tell you what actually is happening!

 

[Woodrow]

ive been hearing that the taliban of the pakistan is fake...



it feels terrible sitting here not knowing whats TRUELLY happening with the muslims.


simply cant trust media..

I see it as worse than that. I believe thousands of very sincere young people are being mislead into fighting for the desires of some unscrupulous people and believe they are fighting to protect Islam.

May those sincere young people be blessed for their intentions and the evil doers misleading them face the punishment they deserve.

 

[Masuma]

And the graduates of Afghan war/Talibans have been causing terror attacks in Indonesia, killing hundreds of civilians.

Really? But how did they get there? I mean Indonesia is far better in security settings than Pak and still the Talibans managed to do attacks?

 

[Woodrow]

Really? But how did they get there? I mean Indonesia is far better in security settings than Pak and still the Talibans managed to do attacks?

questions worth asking:

All of this takes considerable money.

Who is supplying the needed money to the Taliban?


These young people appear to very well trained in guerilla warfare

Who is training them?
Where are they being trained?

 

[Masuma]

questions worth asking:

All of this takes considerable money.

Who is supplying the needed money to the Taliban?

These young people appear to very well trained in guerilla warfare

Who is training them?

Ummm, I think a Pakistani can answer you this better 'cuz Talibans were created by Pakistan:embarrass and America! How shocking!!! But dear bro, life is far more complicated than what people think. What I have learned from my country's history is to

Never make assumptions about anything at all!

Talibans were created by America to fight the Soviet Union which was at that time, invading Afghanistan. Talibans were created and trained by Pakistan with the aim of liberating Kashmir, a Muslim territory under non-Muslim oppression. Pakistanis, just for seeing their Muslim brothers free, gave money to Talibans out of their own pockets! We trained them for a very gud cause but what they did, they simply turned on us, the people who made and supported them on the first place. They are more rightly called as Traitors!

And now, India's Raw and America is funding their evil cause.:raging:

Also that they have gathered enough money by torturing and black mailing the Tribal people of my country.

Where are they being trained?

I think they are being trained in hidden areas of Afghanistan or maybe somewhere in the mountainous areas of Pak.

 

[GuestFellow]

Pakistan 'takes key Taliban town'

^ Click the link above to read the article. I decided to post the topic here...

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

it feels terrible sitting here not knowing whats TRUELLY happening with the muslims.

things like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ0x5ZLbeqQ&feature=fvsr

now look of the nerve pigs like this have to make themselves look like the victims...unbelievable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3l170cMRDQ&feature=channel

and this:
http://www.islamicboard.com/712717-post1.html

they're are abit old, but it none-the-less happens.

simply cant trust media..

try this then:
http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/

Oh pleasssse! Why do people say such things if they don't know what actually is right? Dear bro, Talibans are here, killing your Ummah, blasting them into pieces! We are all their target. Talibans are on our borders and our army is holding them back from coming and taking over the whole country.

i dont think you should jump to conclusions so fast. think about it. how justified would the war be without the "threat" of the Taliban? the true perpetrators are always seen as heros, whilst the real victims are seen as the perpetrators. no one really knows what goes on in there...

 

[Mujahideen92]

I hope they get rid of the disease of unislamic fighters springing up everywhere

I agree, the Taliban was once an organization of freedom but now they have grown power hungry and corrupted.

 

[Amadeus85]

questions worth asking:


Who is supplying the needed money to the Taliban?

Yes, who, Woodrow. That's honest question, I really have no idea WHO.

Who is training them?
Where are they being trained?

If You have any idea, can You tell. That would be interesting, as it seems that You know the situation there clearly.

 

[Insaanah]

They may have blood on their hands, but Muslims killing their Muslim brothers on kuffaar say so is NOT acceptable. Thats exactly what the US goverment wants, so that no Muslims will join forces and potentailly unite against them. It also gives them an excuse to maintain some sort of a presence in the country, and do their military exercises, use the airspace, and whatever else it is that they do. It's a shame that both sides can't see the stupidity of their actions, and where this may lead them on Yaumul Qiyaamah. Who do they really fear, Allah or taaghoot?

 

[Woodrow]

Yes, who, Woodrow. That's honest question, I really have no idea WHO.






If You have any idea, can You tell. That would be interesting, as it seems that You know the situation there clearly.

I actually have no first hand knowledge. Just what I have heard from people who have recently been in Pakistan. I have noticed a shift over the past year. About a year ago every recent arrival I met from Pakistan indicated that the Taliban were brave Pakistanis attempting to over throw the corrupt USA backed Pakistan Government. The recent arrivals are now saying they believe them to be Afghanistanians funded by the USA and trained in Afghanistan for the purpose of occupation of the SWAT region.

I really don't know what the truth about the Taliban, except that over the past few years people operating under the name Taliban have targeted more Muslims than non-Muslims. It seems that a civilian in North East Pakistan is more likely to be killed by a person calling himself Taliban then a USA soldier in Afghanistan.

 

[nocturnal]

The Pakistani Taliban seems quite distinct from the Afghan Taliban. I don't think they are answerable to the same higher authorities and their operational structures seem be different. The most fundamental difference i guess is that the Afghan Taliban is engaged in a determined guerilla insurgency against the occupation forces, where as in Pakistan, the Taliban there are taking on the full might of the Pakistani Military head-on. Even the deployment of 30,000 soldiers hasn't unnerved them, it actually galvanizes their resolve to engage the military there in a direct confrontation.

Their logic seems to be; if we beat them, fair and well. If we don't, we get martyrdom while trying to. How do you tackle a force that is fired up with such zeal derived from an intense desire for martyrdom. Im sure the Pakistani government knows this, and the Obama administration too. I can't help but think that this will turn into another vietnam for the US and its allies.

Think about it guys; the formidable military might of the Soviet Union was unable to defeat them, were routed decisively and compelled to withdraw in ignominy. It's quite clear that both the Afghani and Pakistani Taliban are unwavering adherents of that same doctrine of dedicated resistance. And Pakistan is the nation with most to loose. How long will they go on fighting the wars of the US on it's behalf on Pakistani territory?

Zardari should exercise some judiciousness, cut his losses now and negotiate another truce with the militants. It's such a startling situation, 3 Muslim countries, all of them in a perilous situation, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. All of them in a state of carnage as a direct consequence of US policy.

 

[Humbler_359]

Pakistan Zindabad !
Our flag is still top on the hill.