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thanks for posting this, i was confused abt the situation. i thought mushraf was a good president.a guess i was wrong. Indeed the situation is bad and i hope allah tala can bring peace in pakistan inshallah. its full of problems at the moment- this situation alongside the flooding. pakistan definitely needs to change, the way democracy works in pakistan needs to be rethinked. i am no lawyer and i know its easier said than done, but a big change needs to be made. i am impressed with the wealth knowledge u all have, as i dont have much even though i was born there, maybe we all on this forum should team up and change paksitan ourselves, what do u all reckon? up for it?:D , because at the moment no one is prepared to do so....

Rab Raka....

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latest i have on lal masjid:

Hundreds of Pakistani militants surrender
STEPHEN GRAHAM

Associated Press

July 4, 2007 at 9:15 AM EDT

ISLAMABAD — About 700 followers of a radical mosque surrendered Wednesday as government troops with armoured personnel carriers tightened their stranglehold on the building a day after clashes killed at least 16 people, officials said.

Sporadic firing erupted around the mosque and an adjacent women's seminary in the early evening while three helicopter gunships circled overhead.

Minister of Information Mohammed Ali Durrani said that "a few hundred" militants could remain inside the Lal Masjid, or Red Mosque, whose clerics have challenged the government by trying to impose a Taliban-style version of Islamic law in the capital.

One of those who decided to give up, 15-year-old Maryam Qayyeum, said many were not leaving the seminary. "They are happy. They only want martyrdom. They don't want to go home," she said.

The militants had been ordered by the government to lay down their arms and surrender by 11 a.m. Wednesday, following a day of bloody clashes between security forces and militants living inside the sprawling mosque compound.

All women and children who surrender will be granted amnesty, but males involved in killings and other crimes as well as the top mosque leaders would face legal action, said Deputy Information Minister Tariq Azim.

The number of militants remaining inside the complex by evening was not known.

for the whole article go here:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...704.w2pakistan0704/BNStory/International/home
 
Thank God, the drama is ending (and almost ended). a very unfortunate and disturbing event for the people of pakistan.
 
yes, i agree. last i read is that there are still a number of people inside and they are saying that they welcome martyrdom. the deadline had passed and some gov't official said they are still hoping that common sense would prevail. i think the gov't is afraid.
there was a suicide attack on some police in frontier province - they're not sure if it was connected. (i think it probably was).
pakistan has enough problems - they sure don't need this! i hope it is over soon without any more deaths.
 
Shariah can come by the Shariah way (by following the laws of Allah), we (muslims) need to understand this.
muslim can prosper only by the Help of Allah Ta'ala, and the Help of Allah Ta'la is with His promises, and His promises is with His commands. Muslim real asbaab is following the command of Allah Ta'ala no matter whatever the situation (halaat) is.
 
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Do as you please but just make sure our Sikh Gurdwaras remain intact as they have done throughout the years. :D
 
it looks like something is going to happen soon re: lal masjid. i hope there is no more bloodshed.
water has been cut off.
 
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so many things are happening in pakistan - increasing taliban influence, nationalist/separatist demands, the sacking of the chief justice, the future of musharraf's dictatorship amidst increasing demands for democracy, the recent demonstrations/strikes, sectarian and ethnic violence, etc. etc.
i know there are a number of pakistanis here. would you share your "take" on what is happening and what you see as the likely future of pakistan, as well as what you would like to see happen in pakistan.
thanks!
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Asalam alakum my parents are from pakistan and they think whatever is happening in pakistan including,(floods,the red mosque thing, and other terriosm) is bad and should'nt be happening
 
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Asalam alakum my parents are from pakistan and they think whatever is happening in pakistan including,(floods,the red mosque thing, and other terriosm) is bad and should'nt be happening
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yes. sadly pakistan has a huge amount of problems all going on at once.
this lal masjid thing, pakistan sure didn't need on top of everything else.
 
Another new problem has arised in the form of killings of 3 chinese in Peshawer:cry:
 
^^I forget his name...but the Imams mother was shot to death while inside... Inna lillahi wa inna alayhi rajioun, Ameen. Also obviously for any others that have just recently passed during all this...
 
Assalamoalaikum,

I am watching Geo News. The clash b/w the army and the Islamic rebelions is at it's peak. There r atleast 2 army officers dead. The injured in the Jamia mosque is also a lot. There is fierce fighting going on. According to Hamid Mir, a renowned reporter of Geo, the Islamic rebelions fighting in the Lal Majid are ready to give away their lives for their cause and thus r giving a very strong fight to the Pakistan army, which is trying it's best to save the innocent lives inside.
 
50 bodies found on the roof and around the compounds of Lal Mosque
50 ppl have fleed the mosque since morning(including children)
8 army ppl dead
 
58 pple have been killed including 8 soldiers, the main offensive has started in the lal masjid, the siege has lasted for 9 hrs now. this started after negotiations failed at about 4am pakistani time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
On a child's indication, 3 women have been found and taken out of Lala masjid's basements. There are around 10-12 children found with these women as well.
 
Personally I dont like Musharraf because he sacked the chief justice...:mad:

Judiciary must be seperated from executive and legislative bodies...
 
i am afraid that when this is finally over - it will not be the end.
pakistan has enough problems aleady without this.
 
It is all very confusing for me. When this whole issue started, where were the parents of the children (inside lal masjid) at that time? Why didn't they come n collect their children when it was quiet clear that some type of assault if likely? These parents waited for the last few days (the past week) to collect their children. And now they r cursing the government!

How can u let ur child play in a danger area n then blame others for doing harm?

I am not in favor of Musharraf nor with the Ulimas but I am simply a Pakistani, and this question bothers me evertime I see parents crying on the tv.
 
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