Palestine is ‘property of Islam’!

[muzna]

The Jews have a history of 5,000 years

Islam began about 1,400 years ago and therefore Moses was not a Muslim.
He was a Jew.

ASSALAM
it is true that islam as it is now is about 1400 years old. Allah completed the religion through Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) and this is why there has been no need for prophets after him. Musa believed in and followed the commandments of Allah, though he did not practice Islam as the religion is it today as ammendments were made according to the time and the necessity. All Prophets believed in Allah and led pure lives.
Musa was not a Jew...Jesus was a jew, but his followers are christians, wheres the sense in that?
please correct me if i have made any mistakes..

 

[Muslim Soldier]

The Jews have a history of 5,000 years

Islam began about 1,400 years ago and therefore Moses was not a Muslim.
He was a Jew.

Jews neither Christians believe Allah is God. So you are right Jews have turned their back on Alllah.


Israel was the new name God gave to Jacob...and he was a Jew.

A muslim is one who submits to the will of Allah. Moses was a muslim.
God named Jacob Israel, maybe.But where does it say that he was a Jew?

 

[Nicola]

A muslim is one who submits to the will of Allah. Moses was a muslim.
God named Jacob Israel, maybe.But where does it say that he was a Jew?

why wasn't they called muslims in the Bible?

 

[Muslim Soldier]

Muslim is an arabic word Nicola

 

[Nicola]

Muslim is an arabic word Nicola

thanks

so Muslim just means Submissive...is that right

 

[Ninth_Scribe]

Regarding what he labelled as “Zionist colonisation”, Qaradawi pointed out that relations between Muslims and Jews had been good till the appearance of Zionism. Jews had lived among Muslims for centuries and been treated better than anywhere else. But they turned against Arabs and Muslims with the advent of Zionism and wanted to colonise Palestine as settlers.

“The Jews mistakenly claim that Allah has given them Palestine as their homeland, which is untrue. Allah has never ordained that people should be deported from their homes to be replaced by strangers,” Qaradawi said.

Source: http://www.islamicawakening.com/viewnews.php?newsID=7836&

Thank you for this. The Judeans (Jews) were not behind this invasion of Palestine... they were just a convenient excuse. My imaginary 'friend' and I have been going over this whole dispute from the beginning.

First, an 'ancestral' claim does not support an act of war, nor did the Judeans even require it since the lands were made available to them... and any one else who wished to live there.

Secondly, the 'ancestral' claim, were it to be invoked, would be limited to the land that was Judea - a very small bit of land to the south of the land that was Israel. When Ezra (Uzayr) returned with his people from the Babylonian exile, they limited their residencies to Judea only - because they understood this. One has to remember that when the wars began, it was the sons of Benjamin and Judah that were at war with the tribes of Israel, so I don't see how any Judean (Jew) could even think about claiming any of the land that was Israel.

Thirdly, by their own admission, the 'lost' tribes of Israel were absorbed into the Assyrian culture, which... if I'm not mistaking... is Muslim now? They (Muslims) have the right to claim that land... I just have to find them all.

Who ever is behind all this current BS, is obviously ignorant to Judean records because from just the above, which represents only a tenth of what I actually know, there are no legal or religious grounds to support what has happened in Palestine.

They can put up all the walls they want, but it won't solve the problem. If memory serves, those walls came down twice before.

Ninth Scribe

 

[Muslim Soldier]

thanks

so Muslim just means Submissive...is that right

One who submits to the will of Allah

 

[Sahraxx]

Salaam,
It has been sed before but the solution i feel isnt to kick all the jews out of the country it is to allow the palestinians to return to ther homes israel i feel is the land of the ahlul kitab (people of the book) and so the main issue here is to compromise inshallah this will eventually happen.

 

[Nablus]

“The Palestinian teachers who have not been paid for months deserve to receive Zakat,” Qaradawi said, adding that Muslims should also donate amounts accruing from bank interest to the Palestinians.

Israel will not blackmail the palestinian through their incomes > we prefer to die fom hunger than accepting any thing that offers it on us

Subhana Allah there is no justice on this planet> We are the terrorist in the view of western mass media >

May Allah STRENGHTEN OUR Iman

 

[HeiGou]

It has been sed before but the solution i feel isnt to kick all the jews out of the country it is to allow the palestinians to return to ther homes israel i feel is the land of the ahlul kitab (people of the book) and so the main issue here is to compromise inshallah this will eventually happen.

Realistically the two options are 1. leaving the Palestinians where they are or 2. kicking the Jews (and incidentally probably the Christians as well) out of their homes. No one is going to accept being second-class citizens any more and the treatment other ahl-ul-kitab have got elsewhere would not inspire anyone to accept such a status.

 

[Sahraxx]

well then unfortunately it would have to be the second option as that seems the most fair although if i was a leader i would try to force compromise.

 

[KAding]

Salaam,
It has been sed before but the solution i feel isnt to kick all the jews out of the country it is to allow the palestinians to return to ther homes israel i feel is the land of the ahlul kitab (people of the book) and so the main issue here is to compromise inshallah this will eventually happen.

That is completely unrealistic. The Jews will never accept Dhimmi status. If the Pals return the country must become a secular state without any kind of official religion

 

[R_Mujahed]

Palestine is the property of the rightful owners (whoever they may be).

Palestine is not the property of Islam.

Islam is a religion and cannot own land.

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Rightfull owners have always been Muslims (People Submissive to Allah) throughout history!

Sure Palestine is not property of Islam, It is the property of Muslims!

Last time I checked Judsm was a religion... yet they occupied land... isreal does not exist in the first place due to what it is based on!

The occupied lands welcome people all over the world but on one condition... they must be jews! and therefore they want to kick out who is not a jew!

 

[R_Mujahed]

That is completely unrealistic.

Why would that be unrealistic? It is unrealistic that if you consume enough twinkies you could go under a state of Automatism! But It has happened!

The Jews will never accept Dhimmi status.

Then I guess they will have to embrace Muslim or Fight! And I Think MLK is the one that said If you are not willing to die for something then you do not deserve to live! <--- should satisfy you!

If the Pals return the country must become a secular state without any kind of official religion

The Pals will InshaALLAH Return the country! And Islam will be the official religion and Shari'a Law will govern InshaALLAH and that is a Full Stop

 

[Trumble]

Last time I checked Judsm was a religion... yet they occupied land... isreal does not exist in the first place due to what it is based on!

Judaism is a religion, but you should not confuse "those who follow Judaism" with "the Jewish people". Although religious Zionism was one factor that resulted in the migration to Palestine it was by no means the only one, or indeed the most significant one. What was sought was a home for the Jewish peoplewho had been scattered for more than 1,500 years, rather than a home for the Jewish religion. It is a political conflict as much as a religious one - indeed it was almost exclusively political until fairly recently.

Then I guess they will have to embrace Muslim or Fight! And I Think MLK is the one that said If you are not willing to die for something then you do not deserve to live!

They have demonstrated their will to fight repeatedly, having fought and beaten Arab armies in 1948, 1967 and 1973 (and, in rather different circumstances, in 1956). I would point out they did that alone; it is inconceivable that in a new war of aggression against Israel they would not have the full military support of the United States. In other words.. they won't be "embracing islam", or dying, in the forseable future.

 

[muzna]

Who ownes Brazil????

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God owns everything cause God created everything..

 

[snakelegs]

No like christians they belive God had a son

this is wrong. jews are just as monotheistic as muslims are.

 

[snakelegs]

Jews neither Christians believe Allah is God. So you are right Jews have turned their back on Alllah.


Israel was the new name God gave to Jacob...and he was a Jew.

are you under the impression that allah is different from god?? it is just arabic - same god.

 

[Dawud_uk]

why wasn't they called muslims in the Bible?

peace nicola,

why arent they called christians in the bible either?

as others have pointed out, muslim means one who has submitted to God, Jesus submitted to God and was therefore.... MUSLIM.

peace,

Daw'ud

 

[Dawud_uk]

Salaam,
It has been sed before but the solution i feel isnt to kick all the jews out of the country it is to allow the palestinians to return to ther homes israel i feel is the land of the ahlul kitab (people of the book) and so the main issue here is to compromise inshallah this will eventually happen.

assalaamu alaykum,

simple solution, once the muslims get their house in order and establish the kilafate we march into palestine and those jews who dont flee get 3 choices same as usual...

1. islam
2. jiziyyah
3. the sword

in any case, once the land is back under muslim control the jews still living their whatever their status will have to give back what has been stolen or make reperations for it to its true value and usage during the time period they hold onto it.

Sheikh Ahmed Yaseen understood this perfectly, it is not necessary for the palestinians to win, only keep making life very uncomfortable for the jews so they want to leave and then when the islamic state comes about then they sort it out for them. this is why hamas are willing to sign a long term truce (but not peace) with the jews on this.

assalaamu alaykum,
Daw'ud