Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum

http://www.israelipalestinianprocon...ommand=viewone&op=t&id=1&rnd=343.787719090257

Pledged/ Contributed 05/06
United Kingdom
$28,651,303 $26,455,118
U.S.A.
$108,000,000 $135,000,000
Total Governments
$372,067,547 $329,119,217
European Commission
$123,041,805 $90,484,526
Arab Governments Fund
$150,000 $0


So the most pressing, urgent issue for the muslims. The strife of the people of palastine is shown by each arab nation contributing a cash sum of $1 for every $1230 that the West gives these people.

Where is it spent? Well we know the answers, but they dont fit very well into a picture of a opressive Israel starving a downtrodden population.
 
You don't know the state of the ummah in the muslim world, and thats because you've never lived there.


Muslims have gone through much more restrictions in the muslim world in regard to islam than muslims have in the non muslim world - until today in which its kind of balancing out. Why? since the colonialist era, puppet leaders have been placed at the top - they'll do whatever the leaders here tell them. so any muslim who even grows a beard or woman wears the islamic dress - is put under security check by the secret services. i.e. in Egypt, Tunisia, Syria etc.


Similarly, if muslims give money to the poor abroad - they will be kept under scrutiny by the government. many don't want that, and the ones who do - they will be arrested or killed.




Peace.
 
Sounds like they need a healthy heaping dose of New! Improved DEMOCRACY tm. Gets your corrupt officials whiter than white or your money back.
 
Salaam/peace;

Thats what Hitler did to Tens of millions. .

New Hitlers are doing this-


Watch Gaza "Terrorists"

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Killed in Cradle



The mother put him kindly in his cradle. The father bent over to kiss the chubby cheek of the five-month toddler.


"Come on! Grow up sweat heart," whispered the father Naser tenderly in the ears of Mohammad. "Our baby will grow up, play hide and seek and marry the prettiest of the girls."



"We will always love you and get you he best of clothes and toys," added his wife Eman as they kept looking at the sleeping angel.


With his innocent look and broad smile, Mohammad came to this life after five long years of patience and impotency endured by his parents.



They wanted nothing but a baby who brings joy to a life growing mundane and gives purpose to it under a paralyzing Israeli punishment and a crippling blockade.



Mohammad will not grow up; he will not smile any longer neither will he play hide and seek.


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Mohamed was killed in an Israeli raid in Gaza


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Palestinians Are Like Cactus


Cactus is hard, can survive without water for long periods of time, and has all these thorns on the outside with a complete mushy juicy nature on the inside.


Likewise, Palestinians are survivors who can live long without enough resources.




They look so tough while absolutely absurd and tender as all human beings are. Harder still, they stand out in resilience, totally stranded by a long sorrowful legacy of exile!



I look at Gaza people and get astonished of how they endure what they endure

Satellite



Do you know Handala, the young boy in Naji Al-Ali's cartoons?


He has hair like cactus thorns as if professing that our children will live in drought.


Their life is simply a quest for survival.



Barefooted as he is and poor, he turns his back on us and on all, looking at something, thinking of something deeply, faceless in accusation. Will he ever look us in the eyes?


Will he ever grow old? Or will he just shrug his shoulders in indifference and walk away from contemplating the Palestinian cause. Entrapment that it is in a static infertile complex surrounding.


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British Jews: Don't celebrate Israel's 60th


'We cannot celebrate birthday of state founded on terrorism… which engages in ethnic cleansing,' says group of prominent British Jews, saying time has come to recognize 'Naqba' as Palestinian equivalent to Holocaust


Hagit Klaiman


Published: 04.30.08, 20:11 / Israel Jewish Scene


On the eve of Holocaust Remembrance Day and a week before Israel marks its 60th Independence Day, a group of over 100 British Jews comprised of well-known academics, writers, actors and other public figures has launched a scathing attack against the Jewish state.

'We're not celebrating Israel's anniversary,' proclaimed the letter carried by the Guardian newspaper on Wednesday. Among the signatures of those claiming Israel forced 70,000 Palestinians into a Death March in 1948 are Prof.




Haim Bresheeth, a professor at the University of East London who organized the call for an academic boycott against Israel, playwright Harold Pinter, Attorney Daniel Machover, who filed a lawsuit against Maj. Gen. Doron Almog, and Stephen Fry.


"We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state founded on terrorism, massacres and the dispossession of another people from their land," say the letter writers.



"We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state that even now engages in ethnic cleansing, that violates international law, that is inflicting a monstrous collective punishment on the civilian population of Gaza and that continues to deny to Palestinians their human rights and national aspirations.



We will celebrate when Arab and Jew live as equals in a peaceful Middle East."


"In July 1948, 70,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in Lydda and Ramleh in the heat of the summer with no food or water. Hundreds died. It was known as the Death March. We will not be celebrating," the letter continues.

"In all, 750,000 Palestinians became refugees. Some 400 villages were wiped off the map. That did not end the ethnic cleansing.



Thousands of Palestinians were expelled from the Galilee in 1956. Many thousands more when Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza. Under international law and sanctioned by UN resolution 194, refugees from war have a right to return or compensation. Israel has never accepted that right. We will not be celebrating."



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If 100 people died every day it would take 165 years to equal the number of Jews who died in WW2.
I'm not saying the numbers are important, every single death is a tragedy, but what people are saying here is incredibly biased.

Maybe you've seen this before:
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Wonder why so many children die? Ask Hamas.

when i was sayin 100 i was just givin a number... its obvious its alot more than that.... n jews view our blood as nothin.. not us alone but anyone who is not a jew.... since they r the chosen PPL ... for now ... but its kinda weird taken them 60 years... n they still not even close... how sad .. they say they r strongest but they still didnt even take it all .. n the plai dont even have nothin ... n the jews havent even succeed .. i hate when they compare the jews who died in ww2... i mean... 60 years compare to 5 years.. come on now... ( u do feel sorry for em .. but if u think about ... they went through the same thing .. common sense to treat ppl better ) but as i said any non jews blood is worth nothin to em... salamzzzzzzzzzz
 
n as for the picture... they r diyin becuasethey want there country .back... and its not right for them to be kicked out ... like they never existed........ imagin someone come to ur country n kick u out.. would u like that... n kill ur ppl ... dont blame hamas .. hamas is the only one defending them when everyone else forget about them.
 
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From Nakba Survivor to 1948 Arab


Satellite

Click here to listen to the interview

http://www.islamonline.net/English/Multimedia/Library/MuslimAffairs/2008/05/01.shtml

" When the forces approached us … I still remember .. we were sitting — me, my father, my mother, my older brother, my two sisters — in the lower story of our house and my father looked at us and said:


You know guys, just go … go!


Where to go?


He said: just go …

He gave everyone of us 10 Palestinian pounds and he said .. just go ..



Just imagine how parents tell their youngest boy just go .. where to, they didn’t know

It was so terrifying …

My parents didn’t want to see us killed or to see my sisters rapped at the reputation of the Zionist forces that were spreading around.

… and the story starts from there"

Naji Farah tells his story

Click here to listen



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n as for the picture... they r diyin becuasethey want there country .back... and its not right for them to be kicked out ... like they never existed........ imagin someone come to ur country n kick u out.. would u like that... n kill ur ppl ... dont blame hamas .. hamas is the only one defending them when everyone else forget about them.

No they die because they are stupid enough to get that close to a battlefield. What;s the purpose of the kids being there other than PR?
 
when i was sayin 100 i was just givin a number... its obvious its alot more than that.... n jews view our blood as nothin.. not us alone but anyone who is not a jew.... since they r the chosen PPL ... for now ... but its kinda weird taken them 60 years... n they still not even close... how sad .. they say they r strongest but they still didnt even take it all .. n the plai dont even have nothin ... n the jews havent even succeed .. i hate when they compare the jews who died in ww2... i mean... 60 years compare to 5 years.. come on now... ( u do feel sorry for em .. but if u think about ... they went through the same thing .. common sense to treat ppl better ) but as i said any non jews blood is worth nothin to em... salamzzzzzzzzzz
If Israel wanted to wipe out the Palestinians it would already be done. Who would stop them?
 
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From Nakba Survivor to 1948 Arab


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Click here to listen to the interview

http://www.islamonline.net/English/Multimedia/Library/MuslimAffairs/2008/05/01.shtml

" When the forces approached us … I still remember .. we were sitting — me, my father, my mother, my older brother, my two sisters — in the lower story of our house and my father looked at us and said:


You know guys, just go … go!


Where to go?


He said: just go …

He gave everyone of us 10 Palestinian pounds and he said .. just go ..



Just imagine how parents tell their youngest boy just go .. where to, they didn’t know

It was so terrifying …

My parents didn’t want to see us killed or to see my sisters rapped at the reputation of the Zionist forces that were spreading around.

… and the story starts from there"

Naji Farah tells his story

Click here to listen



http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...agename=Zone-English-Muslim_Affairs/MAELayout

Former Prime Minister of Syria Khalid al-Azm recalled in his memoirs:

Since 1948 it is we who demanded the return of the refugees to their country, while it is we who made them leave it. […]
We brought disaster upon one million Arab refugees, by inviting them and bringing pressure to bear upon them to leave their land, their homes, their work and their industry. We have rendered them dispossessed, unemployed, whilst every one of them had work or a trade by which he could gain his livelihood.

After the war, a few Arab leaders tried to present the Palestinian exodus as a victory by claiming to have planned it. Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Said was later quoted as saying: "We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews shelter in. The Arabs should conduct their wives and children to safe areas until the fighting has died down."

Contemporary Jordanian politician Anwar Nusseibeh believed that the fault for the exodus and military loss was with the Arab commanders:

"the commanders of the local army thought in terms of the revolt against the British in the 1930s. The rebels had often retreated to the mountains, which made sense, as the British had not sought to take control of the country. But the Jews were fighting for complete domination, so the fighters had erred in withdrawing from the villages instead of defending them […]. He blamed himself as well. 'I underestimated the strength of my own people,' he wrote. […] His central thesis, however, was that the Palestinian Arabs could have won the country had their leaders not sabotaged the war effort and known how to cooperate."

The Arab National Committee of Haifa, the Arab leadership in Haifa in 1948, wrote and delivered a report on the flight of roughly 60,000 Arabs from Haifa. The report said, "[T]he removal of the Arab inhabitants from the town was voluntary and carried out at our request."

"Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring, brotherly states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down," wrote Habab Issa of Al-Hoda, the leading newspaper for Lebanese Maronites in the United States. A Muslim weekly newspaper in Beirut similarly reported, "Who brought the Palestinians to Lebanon as refugees, suffering now from the malign attitude of newspapers and communal leaders […]? The Arab States [sp], and Lebanon amongst them, did it!"

Mahmoud Abbas, at the time Prime Minister of the Palestinian Authority, would later recall: "The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live."
 
I agree with previous posters... hijacking the word 'holocaust' (I disagree with Woodrow that there has been any change in its generally understood meaning) will do what is otherwise a very worthwhile project no good at all. The same applies to use of language such as "testimonies of the survivors will also be published". Terrible as the conflict is there are far more 'survivors' than victims, which was most certainly not the case for those sent to the Nazi extermination camps.

To be honest I find the attempt to ape memorials of the holocaust blatantly political, rather pathetic and indeed insulting to the dead of both conflicts. 'Memorial' is both dignified, and sufficient.

Spot on. It is blatantly political. It has two purposes. The first is to undercut historical post-WWII sympathy for the Jews after what can only be described as a holocaust. There was a thoroughly documented, industrial scale, effort by the Nazis to literally exterminate every Jew within that portion of Europe under their control. In some places (like Riga or in Poland) they essentially reached their goal. Then there is the symbolism of the cremation of hundreds of thousands or perhaps millions of the bodies of the murdered.

The second purpose is to gain sympathy for the Palestinian cause. That is why pictures of children are to be used in the memorial. I think it is a safe bet that ther won't be any martyrdom tapes on display....you know...with a caption underneath ..."Here is the martyrdom tape of Ibrahim which was made just before he blew up a bunch of grey-haired ladies on a bus..."

Similarly, it seems silly to talk about "survivors" of the occupation when 99.9 % of those who have lived under Israeli occupation are either still alive are died of natural causes.

That the occupation has been a terrible burden for those living through it is certain and there continue to be many injustices, but nobody in the West is going to fall for this analogy. It would be more effective to have a well produced documentary on the villages cut in half by the security wall and how Palestinains are treated at checkpoints or new Israel sttlements...etce, etc.

Of course, if you are just trying to get the locals riled up to continue the Intifada and keep money flowing from foreign agencies to corrupt Palestinian leaders....then this is exactly the right thing to do. It might be a good idea to make some children's cartoons where Jews are portrayed as evil to keep the young kids in line, too.
 
If Israel wanted to wipe out the Palestinians it would already be done. Who would stop them?

if they wanted.. lol ... rite i can see that... man they want it.. but they cant do it... talkin all that sh*T 60 years.. i bet u dont know nothin of there so called planns to take over the whole middle east n wipe us out... n when they were in war with lebanon.. compare to them .. they r much stronger than them.. n they still lost......
 
if they wanted.. lol ... rite i can see that... man they want it.. but they cant do it... talkin all that sh*T 60 years.. i bet u dont know nothin of there so called planns to take over the whole middle east n wipe us out... n when they were in war with lebanon.. compare to them .. they r much stronger than them.. n they still lost......


That is a silly claim(responding to the line you quoted) and one often used. Israel coulden't wipe out the Palistinians openly without loosing the support of Americans, and they need our funding.

Israel has no intention of conquoring the middle east, that dosen't mean the arn't doing horrid things in the OT
 
That is a silly claim(responding to the line you quoted) and one often used. Israel coulden't wipe out the Palistinians openly without loosing the support of Americans, and they need our funding.

Israel has no intention of conquoring the middle east, that dosen't mean the arn't doing horrid things in the OT[/QUO

it might be silly to u but its the truth ... n how do u know wat intentions they got.. ur problem is that ur not lookin at the whole picture.. n since when american cares about the plai... " since u said losin the support of the americans * why would they lose it.. thats part of the whole plann.. salamz
 

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