Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum

arabianprincess said:
wth1257 said:
That is a silly claim(responding to the line you quoted) and one often used. Israel coulden't wipe out the Palistinians openly without loosing the support of Americans, and they need our funding.

Israel has no intention of conquoring the middle east, that dosen't mean the arn't doing horrid things in the OT[/QUO

it might be silly to u but its the truth ... n how do u know wat intentions they got.. ur problem is that ur not lookin at the whole picture.. n since when american cares about the plai... " since u said losin the support of the americans * why would they lose it.. thats part of the whole plann.. salamz
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I wasen't callig anything you wrote as silly, liveing in Michagin I'm sure you know a typical neocon argument aghinst Israeli atrocities in the OT's is to claim that Israel could wipe openly slaughter the Palistinians if the wished to so therefore they must not be doing much that's to bad in the OT's.

While that is probably true militairly, gross military power isin't the final determinate on what a given nation can do.

I can't be sure, however given the tramendous PR work Israel does in the US I'd be willing to bet they care somewhat about their image here?
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arabianprincess said:
if they wanted.. lol ... rite i can see that... man they want it.. but they cant do it... talkin all that sh*T 60 years.. i bet u dont know nothin of there so called planns to take over the whole middle east n wipe us out... n when they were in war with lebanon.. compare to them .. they r much stronger than them.. n they still lost......
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What would stop Israel from wiping out the Pals?
 
wth1257 said:
arabianprincess said:
I wasen't callig anything you wrote as silly, liveing in Michagin I'm sure you know a typical neocon argument aghinst Israeli atrocities in the OT's is to claim that Israel could wipe openly slaughter the Palistinians if the wished to so therefore they must not be doing much that's to bad in the OT's.

While that is probably true militairly, gross military power isin't the final determinate on what a given nation can do.

I can't be sure, however given the tramendous PR work Israel does in the US I'd be willing to bet they care somewhat about their image here?
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You think so? Did we do anything to stop Rwanda? Dafur? How long did the holocaust go on? Serbia?
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Izyan said:
wth1257 said:
You think so?
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Yes

Did we do anything to stop Rwanda? Dafur? How long did the holocaust go on? Serbia?
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Firstly, in most instances the atrocities did not receive due coverage in the American media, but more importantly we were not actively funding any of the regimes commiting the atrocities you mentioned.

The question of weather Americans would be willing to send their forces into a foreign land to forceable stop atrocities in distant lands is entirely different from weather Americans would be willing to stop funding the regime commiting atrocities.
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wth1257 said:
Izyan said:
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Firstly, in most instances the atrocities did not receive due coverage in the American media, but more importantly we were not actively funding any of the regimes commiting the atrocities you mentioned.

The question of weather Americans would be willing to send their forces into a foreign land to forceable stop atrocities in distant lands is entirely different from weather Americans would be willing to stop funding the regime commiting atrocities.
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Ok how long did it take the US to tell Israel to knock it off in Lebanon? They leveled the placce.
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Salaam/peace;

Izyan said:
What would stop Israel from wiping out the Pals?
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to wipe out the whole nation , I guess they need to use Nuke ?? But as neighbour , nuke will harm them , too.

By using bullet , bomb ....it will take much time & strength to wipe out a whole nation. Also , as the sis pointed out , the Israel Army is not that powerful as we are told. The Lebanon war is a good example of it.
 
Israel "could" wipe out the Palestinians, but the end result would be a little more than simply losing U.S. support. Israel only has two concrete allies on the U.N. security council and probably not much more than that in the General Assembly. The result would be Israel being coined a "rogue nation". Rightly so of course. The U.S. isn't dependant upon Israel for much of anything besides intelligence and certain anti-insurgent techniques they have developed over the years. I also think most people would be surprised how many people inside of Israel would oppose any such action on the part of their government.
 
Salaam/peace;

Keltoi said:
..... most people would be surprised how many people inside of Israel would oppose any such action on the part of their government.
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yes , many Jews are against the Zionists...Thanks God.
 
Izyan said:
What would stop Israel from wiping out the Pals?
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hmmmmmm losing n also losin there lives obviously .. compare to the other side.. they dont care,, well thats how i see it.. plus if they do that i believe arab will unite n that wont be a pretty picture for them... they always say never keep arab/ muslims united cuz they will be a threat salamz
 
arabianprincess said:
hmmmmmm losing n also losin there lives obviously .. compare to the other side.. they dont care,, well thats how i see it.. plus if they do that i believe arab will unite n that wont be a pretty picture for them... they always say never keep arab/ muslims united cuz they will be a threat salamz
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There aren't any Arab states that can threaten Israel militarily at this point, and even if they unite it would more than likely be more of a fiasco than the 1967 war.

In any event, Israel has no intention of killing all Palestinians so the subject is pointless.
 
Keltoi said:
There aren't any Arab states that can threaten Israel militarily at this point, and even if they unite it would more than likely be more of a fiasco than the 1967 war.

In any event, Israel has no intention of killing all Palestinians so the subject is pointless.
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that wat they make u believe.. anywayz... peace
 
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My message to the international community is that our silence and complicity, especially on the situation in Gaza, shames us all," Tutu said. (Reuters Photo)

......Israel has been mounting air strikes on the Strip since last February.


In March, a deadly ground and air offensive killed more than 125 people in a week, including more than 20 children, toddlers and newborn babies.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...58058187&pagename=Zone-English-News/NWELayout
 
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Holocaust in Gaza

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"I'd like to beg all viewers to spread this image anywhere, as a way to expose Israeli war crimes against Palestinians.


Use it on T-shirts, posters, banners; reproduce it in zines, papers, magazines; and make it visible everywhere.
Thank you in the name of every suffering Palestinian."




Carlos Latuff



To see Latuff's Gaza Holocaust Cartoons, click here.

http://www.islamonline.net/English/Multimedia/Library/ArtCulture/2008/03/Holocaust/01.shtml

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...65&pagename=Zone-English-ArtCulture/ACELayout
 
Muslim Woman said:
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Holocaust in Gaza

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"I'd like to beg all viewers to spread this image anywhere, as a way to expose Israeli war crimes against Palestinians.


Use it on T-shirts, posters, banners; reproduce it in zines, papers, magazines; and make it visible everywhere.
Thank you in the name of every suffering Palestinian."




Carlos Latuff



To see Latuff's Gaza Holocaust Cartoons, click here.

http://www.islamonline.net/English/Multimedia/Library/ArtCulture/2008/03/Holocaust/01.shtml

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...65&pagename=Zone-English-ArtCulture/ACELayout
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This is tastless. If it was a picture of a Pal blowing up a birthday party you'd be up in arms.
 
Salaam/peace;


Izyan said:
This is tastless. If it was a picture of a Pal blowing up a birthday party you'd be up in arms.
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....... whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men.....( holy Quran ; chapter 5 , verse 32)
 
If this waht is hapenning in Gaza is Holocaust then how we should call this what hapenned in Darfur?
 
Aaron85 said:
Genocide= Holocaust.
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Nope.

The Holocaust was indeed a genocide, but not every genocide is a Holocaust. There has only been one genocide which exhibited such detatched, industrial death, and on such a scale.

In Darfur the people are massacred by millitary raids in a medieval fashion, razing villages, pillaging and salting the earth. The anger and carnage of war feed these attrocities.
But in the Holocaust, millions of people were kidnapped, worked to death, gassed and burned in a mechanical, emotionless fashion, like things on a production line. This was not the work of some men who had been driven mad by battle, everything was calculated on paper first, all the logistics, transport, profits made. :cry:
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