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[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Some people are unbelievable.

End of story.

 

[shuraimfan4lyf]

It is to show that people have the right to draw what they want without receiving death threats (or worse).

I hope those death threats will get worse and come true insha'Allah.

 

[DataPacRat]

I hope those death threats will get worse and come true insha'Allah.

I find myself surprised that I'm saddened at the evil of that statement - not only at the wish for someone to die, but that the poster does not even recognize that wishing someone dead is an evil wish. I'd thought I'd gotten cynical enough to just accept such malignity as a matter of course.

 

[Mohamed_Sadiq]

I find myself surprised that I'm saddened at the evil of that statement - not only at the wish for someone to die, but that the poster does not even recognize that wishing someone dead is an evil wish. I'd thought I'd gotten cynical enough to just accept such malignity as a matter of course.

Do u want to know wat is evil? Evil is those that mock Islam and we won't tolerate it. We are not gonna lie back and see our religion being played with. Islam is not a joke and they need to know that before they do it again and again.

 

[shuraimfan4lyf]

I find myself surprised that I'm saddened at the evil of that statement - not only at the wish for someone to die, but that the poster does not even recognize that wishing someone dead is an evil wish. I'd thought I'd gotten cynical enough to just accept such malignity as a matter of course.

I find myself not surprised when you are surprised at the statement that I made because you never experienced the true love of Islam and their Prophets. I am well aware for what I am wishing for. I am wishing for a punishment those cartooners supposed to get and whoever supports them are losers in this life and the hereafter.

 

[Life_Is_Short]

Without freedom of speech countries quickly become a dictatorship. If any group is allowed too much control of what the media says they can become too powerful e.g. Hitler. (not Godwin's law).

Well, here is a new flash:

The west is already a dictatorship shaped by the media. Ever heard of ideological power-from ideological institutions such as the media. They have the ability to "agenda set" what should/should not be.

The idea "the liberal media" is a common belief and held to be true by the media. I could give you masses of evidence.

So please stop quoting nonesense. :exhausted

 

[atheistbynature]

I find myself not surprised when you are surprised at the statement that I made because you never experienced the true love of Islam and their Prophets. I am well aware for what I am wishing for. I am wishing for a punishment those cartooners supposed to get and whoever supports them are losers in this life and the hereafter.

Are you seriously saying this about some people drawing cartoons as a protest against threats of violence? Does it really bother you that much that you think they deserve punishment for it? People should just not look at things that are going to offend them. If they are going to be punished in the next life for eternity then why punish them now?

 

[جوري]

If they are going to be punished in the next life for eternity then why punish them now?

Regardless of the topic here..
Eternal punishment doesn't preclude from implementing worldly justice!
Do you think that because you take a shower every morning (we hope) that is should cover you if you soiled yourself sometime in the afternoon?
a guaranteed morning clean shouldn't preclude you from interval cleanups should the need arise!


all the best

 

[shuraimfan4lyf]

Are you seriously saying this about some people drawing cartoons as a protest against threats of violence? Does it really bother you that much that you think they deserve punishment for it? People should just not look at things that are going to offend them. If they are going to be punished in the next life for eternity then why punish them now?

I am dead serious. They will be disgraced in this world and severely punished by the will of Allah in the Akhirah inshaAllah.

 

[Skavau]

I hope those death threats will get worse and come true insha'Allah.

People like you only demonstrate the necessity of standing up for free-speech. People like you demonstrate that violence is not an acceptable response to insult.

Do u want to know wat is evil? Evil is those that mock Islam and we won't tolerate it. We are not gonna lie back and see our religion being played with. Islam is not a joke and they need to know that before they do it again and again.

No, they need not 'know' anything. They do not live in an Islamic state. They live in a nationstate that has a free media seperate from government influence and government control. They have no compulsion to observe Islamic tenets that they neither live under nor observe.

 

[Mohamed_Sadiq]

People like you only demonstrate the necessity of standing up for free-speech. People like you demonstrate that violence is not an acceptable response to insult.


No, they need not 'know' anything. They do not live in an Islamic state. They live in a nationstate that has a free media seperate from government influence and government control. They have no compulsion to observe Islamic tenets that they neither live under nor observe.

Listen your an athiest right? So you don't know the feelings of having a religion, do you know people that follow a religion they defend it, and for us religion comes before nationalism we don't care what countries we are from we are all brothers and sisters of Islam so it doesn't matter if the country is not a Islamic country because they have to respect other religions full stop. *****Islam 4 life.*****

 

[S_87]

you dont defend freedom of speech by OFFENDING people. there are many other ways to demonstrate freedom of speech this is NOT one of them

 

[Gabriel Ibn Yus]

Who's media? "Ours"?

Yes. Exactly. Your media.

Your media belongs to your culture. Your culture is limited.

When you mention the Prophet, which belongs to another culture* - you
put your hand into the domain of another culture with disrespect - this is inappropriate.

The government does not control the media.
The media is allowed to focus on what topics they like.

Actually, I was not talking about the government which I do not care about
- I was talking about people who have no
respect to things outside of their culture. The government is just a system.

The reason maybe why you do not get it is that the concept of culture by itself is alien to western terminology. This is because there cannot be a culture in a secular community

What a fantastically liberal definition. It is a definition that most do not share (check Merriam Webster and Dictionary.com) and most secular nationstates do not recognise. My being an atheist has the direct capacity to upset and hurt other people. Are you claiming that if I was to declare my position in front another individual that I would be offended I would in fact be acting violent?

Yes. You should be able to explain your position in a way that does not offend anybody.

* The Prophet and the message of the Quran are universal, however one must embrace the basic principles in order to be entailed to the culture it defines.

 

[Snowflake]

The things is, dogs will bark. You can't hold their mouths. Protests are like a bone to the dog. They want protests, reactions, watching muslim's suffer and not be able to stop it. And that's what they are getting.


The truth is that muslims have become so helpless they have to do rallies and petitions to fight the kufaar. If we obeyed Allah and His rasul, Allah would help us against the kuffar. So how about it? How about fulfilling His rights and the rights of your brothers and sisters in islam? Lies, deception, back biting, jealousy and lack of love for each other has destroyed us. The muslims of old times had Allah's help because they lived the deen! They were true to Allah, themselves and each other and Allah helped them against the kuffar without them asking. Does Allah not tell us that he will not change the condition of a people until they change themselves? Well do it then. Fulfil your obligations and ask Allah for help. He can smite them down in an instant. He can guide them or take away their senses so that they can't even think bad about the Prophet, let alone do cartoons of him. But for us to expect help from Allah we first have to be the kind of muslims Allah wants us to be. Don't disobey Allah and His Prophet (saw) and then claim to love Him and His Prophet (saw). You feel offended by a cartoon which neither harms Islam or the Prophet yet you offend Allah by your own disobedience to Him and His rasul. Clearly this was for those who think it's OK for them to make Allah angry, but they get angry when others do so. Doesn't make sense.

 

[Supreme]

Listen your an athiest right? So you don't know the feelings of having a religion, do you know people that follow a religion they defend it, and for us religion comes before nationalism we don't care what countries we are from we are all brothers and sisters of Islam so it doesn't matter if the country is not a Islamic country because they have to respect other religions full stop. *****Islam 4 life.*****

Indeed. The main reason this is perpetuated by atheists is that they cannot understand what it feels like to hold something holy to them in this way.

I'm split on the issue. When does free speech become taboo? Can it become taboo? As a Christian, when someone insults my religion, I am not offended- Jesus afterall taught us to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us, and that we should be happy when we are persecuted for in the same way, the prophets before us were persecuted. I suppose that's why you'd never hear the same outroar amongst Christians if our religion was offended.

 

[Skavau]

Listen your an athiest right? So you don't know the feelings of having a religion, do you know people that follow a religion they defend it, and for us religion comes before nationalism we don't care what countries we are from we are all brothers and sisters of Islam so it doesn't matter if the country is not a Islamic country because they have to respect other religions full stop. *****Islam 4 life.*****

No they don't. These are your values, not other people's. You are allowed to be sanctimonious about respecting other religions. You are allowed to even protest, boycott and encourage others to criticise those who would diminish those ideals.

You do not, however have the right to force independent secular nationstates to censor their media to pay refuge to your feelings. Not only is it an unacceptable and unreasonable demand, it is also outside of the power of most of these countries (they do not control the media and cannot impose new legislation to censor them arbitrarily).

you dont defend freedom of speech by OFFENDING people. there are many other ways to demonstrate freedom of speech this is NOT one of them

This is, in the context of what is being contended - arguably the only way to defend freedom of expression. It is people refusing to back down over the demands that Islam become uniquely immune from mockery and insult.

Indeed, to claim that freedom of speech must supercede hurt feelings and then refuse to demonstrate a willingness to put that into action is cowardice.

 

[Mohamed_Sadiq]

Indeed. The main reason this is perpetuated by atheists is that they cannot understand what it feels like to hold something holy to them in this way.

I'm split on the issue. When does free speech become taboo? Can it become taboo? As a Christian, when someone insults my religion, I am not offended- Jesus afterall taught us to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us, and that we should be happy when we are persecuted for in the same way, the prophets before us were persecuted. I suppose that's why you'd never hear the same outroar amongst Christians if our religion was offended.

Yes, your right and there is less outroar when Christians get offended because many Christian countries are becoming secularised and less religous on the other hand Islam is becoming stronger and stronger each moment and Muslims are not secular and still have their religion and also Islam is the most growing religion in the world. I am sure you can see the correlation.

Freedom of speech is just expressing your freedom and when did Islam prevented their rights of freedom nobody is reinforcing them to become Muslims or forcing them or trapping them so why insult Islam? If they don't like my religion cant the just say it respectfully instead of a indirect ugly way?

Cant they just say:' Sorry but we don't like your religion'----> aint that much better than mocking Islam?

 

[Skavau]

Yes. Exactly. Your media.

Your media belongs to your culture. Your culture is limited.

When you mention the Prophet, which belongs to another culture* - you
put your hand into the domain of another culture with disrespect - this is inappropriate.

There is no specific culture (unless you use umbrella terms) in the vast majority of secular nations. The fact that you consider some commentary, analysis, mockery or criticism of Islam, or of Muhammad as "disrespectful" does not matter. There is no reason that freedom of speech, being disrespectful ought to be criminalised.

Yes. You should be able to explain your position in a way that does not offend anybody.

Sir, that is impossible. Again, I repeat - simply my being an atheist offends people. Are you suggesting that I should pretend to be otherwise in their company? Are you suggesting that I should silence myself because of their sensibilities?

* The Prophet and the message of the Quran are universal, however one must embrace the basic principles in order to be entailed to the culture it defines.

This is of course, what you believe. No reason for me to believe it has any relevance to free speech.

 

[Gabriel Ibn Yus]

The fact that you are an atheist does not offend anybody. You can believe in what ever you want.

However, people feel uncomfortable when you spread this unhealthy belief for natural reasons.

p.s I would not be so proud of not having a culture. It is a bad sign to live in a society which has no culture. It means your society is ill.

 

[Skavau]

Freedom of speech is just expressing your freedom and when did Islam prevented their rights of freedom nobody is reinforcing them to become Muslims or forcing them or trapping them so why insult Islam? If they don't like my religion cant the just say it respectfully instead of a indirect ugly way?

On the internet, there exists many outlets for mockery. I know of at least two parodies of wikipedia (one 'decent', the other more explicit). They mock everything. This includes Islam. Indeed both websites have large articles on Islam. Are you suggesting that those satirical encyclopedias have their articles on Islam (and other articles relating to it) censored? If so, would you by extension suggesting that anyone on the internet who mocks or insults Islam or Muslims have their ISPs contacted and have their service providers cut them off?

Why or why not?